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Sycho · 02-22-2004, 09:40 PM

all things being equal, no sweetening, like on most dts tracks, if a dts and Dolby track exists, (DD 448kbps, and dts 1538kbps) they should sound the same, which some do, if some of them sound the same, wouldn't that mean the Dolby is more advanced. Let me define it the way I am using it, both Dolby and dts have a codec, both are lossy, both have 5.1, only one is a standard, both will reconstruct the 5.1 speaker rig, but, one will take up 4x the room, so which one holds the same information using less space.

The main reason most of you say that dts is better is because that they have sweetening done the the high end (boosted bout 3dB) and the surrounds a loud on top of that (the full range of the surround channels boosted by 3dB), usually, when people say that they don't notice a difference, thats because it was encoded properly

Just think about it, and ignore everything you have ever heard about AC3 and dts, they both do the same thing, they both throw away so information, one can do 5.1 at 448kbps and the other at 1538kbps, for example which do you use, Mpeg Audio 1 layer II or layer III, layer II has high bit-rates, but layer III will provide better compression when using M/S coding, which is how Dolby Digital works, dts codes all channel separately, correct? Dolby Digital will code the sound buy combining the common sounds (think L+R and L-R), abd then decode it ( [L+R]+[L-R]=L and [L+R]-[L-R]=R)

@Iguana Man
Before you criticize my signature, actually take time to read and think about what it says, and I don't like to go through menus, I just play the movie

@Ruined
dts's cinema codec is better because if will provide a better sound than any of the codec mentioned in this thread, it uses only ADPCM compression, which uses the differences between samples to compresses sound, by far one of the best compressors if used properly. Scalability has nothing to do with a codec being better.

@brian
Dolby Mono
Dolby A Noise Reduction
Dolby Stereo
Dolby 70mm Stereo (5-track)
Dolby B Noise Reduction
Dolby C Noise Reduction
Dolby Surround
Dolby HX Pro
Dolby SR Stereo
Dolby Surround Prologic
Dolby Stereo Digital (aka Dolby Digital)
Dolby Digital EX Extended Surround
Dolby Surround Prologic II
Dolby Surround Prologic IIx

02-22-2004, 09:40 PM	#20 (permalink)
Sycho I needs to show ID with a personal check Join Date: Dec 2003	all things being equal, no sweetening, like on most dts tracks, if a dts and Dolby track exists, (DD 448kbps, and dts 1538kbps) they should sound the same, which some do, if some of them sound the same, wouldn't that mean the Dolby is more advanced. Let me define it the way I am using it, both Dolby and dts have a codec, both are lossy, both have 5.1, only one is a standard, both will reconstruct the 5.1 speaker rig, but, one will take up 4x the room, so which one holds the same information using less space. The main reason most of you say that dts is better is because that they have sweetening done the the high end (boosted bout 3dB) and the surrounds a loud on top of that (the full range of the surround channels boosted by 3dB), usually, when people say that they don't notice a difference, thats because it was encoded properly Just think about it, and ignore everything you have ever heard about AC3 and dts, they both do the same thing, they both throw away so information, one can do 5.1 at 448kbps and the other at 1538kbps, for example which do you use, Mpeg Audio 1 layer II or layer III, layer II has high bit-rates, but layer III will provide better compression when using M/S coding, which is how Dolby Digital works, dts codes all channel separately, correct? Dolby Digital will code the sound buy combining the common sounds (think L+R and L-R), abd then decode it ( [L+R]+[L-R]=L and [L+R]-[L-R]=R) @Iguana Man Before you criticize my signature, actually take time to read and think about what it says, and I don't like to go through menus, I just play the movie @Ruined dts's cinema codec is better because if will provide a better sound than any of the codec mentioned in this thread, it uses only ADPCM compression, which uses the differences between samples to compresses sound, by far one of the best compressors if used properly. Scalability has nothing to do with a codec being better. @brian Dolby Mono Dolby A Noise Reduction Dolby Stereo Dolby 70mm Stereo (5-track) Dolby B Noise Reduction Dolby C Noise Reduction Dolby Surround Dolby HX Pro Dolby SR Stereo Dolby Surround Prologic Dolby Stereo Digital (aka Dolby Digital) Dolby Digital EX Extended Surround Dolby Surround Prologic II Dolby Surround Prologic IIx __________________ On the bed, on the floor, on the towel by the door. In the tub, in the car, up against the mini-bar.