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Originally Posted by reapersaurus
hmm... OK, I'll enter.
So - if you are being so focused on the (relatively) few frames of film that have nudity in them, and declaring that unless they have a purpose within the story, that they are "unneeded", than you MUST therefore put the same kind of attention to other scenes that are in movies traditionally.
What are some typical things seen in many movies that a typical audience-goer is interested in seeing?
Hmmm.. how bout long, establishing landscape scnes - they don't HAVE to be there, and they seldom actually DO anything in the story, so you should object to those.
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Ok, you need to read my first post. This thread is not about useless pieces in films, it’s about nude scenes and the effect they have on the film and the actor. My problem, as stated above, is that these scenes (that aren’t needed) can end up being nothing more than Internet porn fodder. Landscape scenes are irrelevant to the topic at hand. A lot of landscape/driving/etc scenes do have meaning in the story and then there are times when they’re just filler. BUT, they have no effect on a person or how she/he is viewed.
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Originally Posted by reapersaurus
How about smoking? It's usualy not a story-point, so object to any character that is shown lighting up or smoking onscreen.
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Smoking, however, is relevant. There are several times when I watch a film where I character chain-smokes for no reason and it does seem gratuitous. It’s like the writer couldn’t flesh out the character, so they just gave them vices that make them seem more real. On the other hand, smoking can be very useful and can give you insight into a character’s mindset. Again though, this isn’t the same as a nude scene. People are not going to go see a certain film just because that actor/actress is smoking in it. And, as far as I know, no actor has looked back at a photo shoot of themselves smoking and regretted it.
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Originally Posted by reapersaurus
How about car chases, or even most action scenes? Most of them don't advance the plot - they are simply there to give the audience member a visceral, visual excitement.
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I think the above 2 answer this, but action scenes are not the same as nude scenes. At least not in my opinion. Good action scenes can further the story. Bad action sequences are just bad sequences. A bad nude scene can be scarring to a person. A bad action scene just lowers box office and DVD sales. Good and Bad action scenes that simply exist for the sake of explosions may not further the story, but the film they are in most likely call for that.
-PH