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Originally Posted by tomdkat
I didn't think the sex scene in MB contributed to the story as much as you imply. In fact, I was disappointed in it for I felt it was "forced". It felt like someone decided Halle Berry "needed" to be in some 'hot' or 'torrid' sex scene, and I didn't think that was needed in MB. I also felt that scene was much too long, and that's coming from someone who would have loved to see her in a prolonged sex scene.
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I think that the "forced" feeling was what they were after or rather a characters desperate need to escape their present reality through forced pleasure. It may have been too long. It definitely is not one of those scenes that you would want to watch with your parents. As others have mentioned already, I am sure that Halle had a large part in how graphic AND how long that scene was...
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Originally Posted by tomdkat
I equate the relevance of the sex scene in MB with the relevance of the prolonged scene with Neo and Trinity in Matrix Reloaded. It just wasn't really needed or at least for not as long as it was in the movie.
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The scene in Reloaded was pure crap and IMHO that felt forced as if there "needed" to be a scene like that somewhere so that they could "show their love." I felt that that scene added nothing to the movie and in fact, had they not included it and continued the love pressure it would have made the ending that more intense and effective.
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Originally Posted by tomdkat
I don't see this. I don't think her sex scene in MB made her a "star". She was acclaimed for her work in "Introduction to Dorothy Dandridge" and I think she made a good Bond girl in "Die Another Day".
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Well, here I disagree with you and need to clarify my statement...first, the scene did NOt make her a "star" in my eyes but obviously it made her a star in the eyes of those handing out our man Oscar. Second, that Oscar would beg to differ as to what movie made her a star in the eyes of those who seem to reign supremely in Hollywood. Many actors have had good break out roles but that does not necessarily mean that they will become a star/Hollywood powerhouse. Third, I don't even want to discuss her acting as a Bond girl in DAD as she was one of the worst on record only dethroned by Denise Richards. (I am sure that umainebear will have something to say about that statement)
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Originally Posted by tomdkat
We can wonder all we want about this, but that's something for the actors to deal with and none of our concern.
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True, but that is one of the main points of discussion that Pirate introduced with the discussion of this thread and I was only agreeing with him.
