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I know for sure that video-wise, I can't always see the imperfections that others see. For example, dugpa finds compressions artifacts all over movies that I just don't see problems with. But with audio, I am much more picky. It has been my main criticism for hd-dvd, which is that from an audio perspective, it is weaker. While colors are often more bright, the PQ really isn't heads above bd. However, bd blows hd-dvd out of the water in the audio department. Hands down, no contest.
The bit rates data is interesting to see though. I'm just not sure how it helps the argument that lossy is better than lossless.
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