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Originally Posted by tomdkat

I'm not sure I follow you here. Are you saying more "experts" are vocal in favor of HD DVD than of Blu-Ray or more people who support HD DVD are claiming to be "experts"? I wouldn't necessarily consider Robert George to be an "expert" (at least not like how Stacey Spears is generally regarded) but he's definitely a "recognized name" in HT cyberspace.

Furthermore, pointing out "issues" isn't necessarily "bashing", even though it can be at times. Of course, this happens on both sides. In fact, the first thread you linked to above illustrates this.

No, I am saying that I don't quote [insert name] and say that he says such and such is better than hd-dvd, and then make a thread about him giving his opinion on bd and treat it as expert opinion. Whether he is well known or not doesn't matter. The fact that he has bias calls his critiques into question, in my book.

And I would say that the "bashing" statement wasn't necessarily applied to this thread. This is just one amongst many that are in a littany of threads put out to bash the ps3 and blu-ray. See my vacuum statements to see why I said that. It certainly didn't stop Obi from bashing Sony in the second link I posted.

I agree threads shouldn't be treated as vacuums but in the case of Robert George, the threads you posted above didn't really prove your "case". I could make the same statements about you, and back them in the same manner as you have above, and make a case for you being a "HD DVD basher" as you are about Robert George being against Blu-Ray.

The case wasn't necessarily about Obi as it was about Ruined, and the context with which he posts these threads. It's quite obvious to many that he unapologetically favors hd-dvd. But there may be some on this forum that just peruse the threads and might not know this. Bringing such context can highlight to that reader what motivations Ruined might have, or also might bring to light biases that Obi has. It's not just in the hd forum, but also in the video game forums.

As far as trying to make me out to be an hd-dvd basher, you might be hard pressed to do so from an audio/video standpoint. I have not (to my recollection) ever bashed hd-dvd for its a/v with regards to blu-ray. I have pointed out where they have gotten subpar reviews from highdefdigest. I have stated that I think bd will win the war based on marketing and studio support. I have stated that I like the audio better on bd because of lossless versus lossy. And I have been a bd supporter if only to act as a counterweight to Ruined and others that support hd-dvd and have made it clear where their biases are. I have had criticisms on the marketing tactics of Toshiba and hd-dvd, and have even recommended ways they could turn things around. None of this compares to the unending assault on the ps3 and bd.

I do agree with you that we all need to be careful about what we read and from whom and we all do a disservice to everyone when basing points or positions on questionable sources. In this particular case, Robert George could be wrong. The Secrets guys might run some VC-1 tests on the PS3 and prove him right. We simply don't know and really can't (or shouldn't) jump to ANY conclusions on EITHER side of this issue.

How would you guys feel if Robert George was proven right on this one point? (The point about the VC-1 decoder)

Peace...

If Obi is right, then I imagine that it can be fixed by a patch, just like the other issues that have been hurled at the ps3.