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Originally Posted by Ruined

What about people that want to produce hidef discs on a small scale for things like Weddings, High School Sports, etc? Or if you want to backup a movie you own? Out of luck on Blu-Ray it looks like.

Another reason to support HD DVD! Open recordable format, and one that does not treat the disc buyer like a criminal.

Here is the official word from Sony:


Lord knows what will happen if BD wins!

According to AVS thread, it's only BDMV that is restricted, and that the small scale stuff you mentioned above can be done in BDAV and still be allowed. Making backups of the movies you own? Well, that might not be possible.

Also, it's worth noting that this AVS guy that's propagating the thread is the same guy that spread the bd disc rot issue. And Ruined complains about FUD. HA!!

From Blu-ray insider:

BD-R/-RE clarification

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Hi, all,

I've received permission to relay information I received from a CE vendor contact. Some of this slightly contradicts what might be interpreted from what paidgeek has posted; hopefully he'll be able to check with his sources and either confirm what I've posted or either of us will correct as required.

Most current Blu-ray players were shipped with "grace period" support where they weren't required to fully implement AACS on BD-R/-RE discs. In practice what this means on these players is that a BD-R/-RE disc authored with AACS copy protection will not play, while BD-R/-RE discs without AACS copy protection are permitted to play.

Now that the grace period is over players must either fully support AACS from BD-R/-RE, or they may not support BDMV from BD-R/-RE at all. If a player does support AACS from BD-R/-RE it may also support BDMV from non-AACS BD-R/-RE (just as many current players do). Therefore once AACS is fully supported from BD-R/-RE on a given player, the situation will be no different than it is today. Bear in mind that BD-R/-RE support is not required on a Blu-ray Disc player (just as DVD(+/-)R/RW support isn't required on a DVD player). However, I expect most future players will fully support BDMV from BD-R/-RE (with or without AACS). My contact says a firmware upgrade to the players recently released without BDMV BD-R/-RE support is technically possible, but hasn't yet been committed to.

Based on this explanation, I don't believe there is any change in BD-R/-RE media whatsoever, but that this is purely a firmware-related issue. I also don't believe there's an obligation to firmware update players released during the grace period to remove the ability to playback BDMV from BD-R/-RE, but I'm trying to confirm this.

Hope this helps clarify things.

- Talk

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&#post11242220

"Quote:
Originally Posted by rdjam
If the AACS BD-R spec was finalised July 28th, 2006, why are there still no AACS BD-R discs on the market. "

Based on my information there are no AACS BD-R discs.

"Quote:
Could the fact that HD DVD does NOT require AACS protection on Users' self-recorded home movies represent a distinct advantage to the HD DVD format."

Blu-ray does not require AACS protection on users' home movies. It requires players to support AACS on BD-R/-RE if it is present.

"Quote:
Could the fact that Bluray *does require* AACS on test BD-ROMs produced by the studios be considered a disadvantage to the BD format?"

If you're a major studio you may well consider the AACS requirement on BD-ROM an advantage, as it makes it much more difficult to produce pirate BD-ROM copies of a movie. To the extent this keeps studios in the Blu-ray camp, this is to the advantage of the consumer. If you're a studio with no interest in protecting your content via AACS, this requirement may be perceived as a (minor) disadvantage, as it increases production costs (but only trivially for any reasonably-sized production run).

"Quote:
Am I correct in my interpretation that any BDMV content burned to a DVD-9 red laser disc for playback on Bluray players will ALSO require AACS protection, or a special AACS-approved disc? Or is this down to the interpretation of the manufacturer?"

There is no requirement for BDMV content burned to recordable media to have AACS protection. The only requirement is that (new) players which support BD-R/-RE BDMV media must support AACS as well.

"Quote:
If AACS is mandatory for BDMV content on BD-R/RE discs, then HOW can a player "either support AACS, or not support AACS"?"

AACS is not mandatory for BD-R/-RE BDMV content. What's mandatory is if the player supports BDMV from BD-R/-RE, it must fully support AACS if present on that content.

- Talk