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Originally Posted by rixrex
Well, you're taking the words completely out of their context. I'm talking about the total context and meaning of all of the words together used in a specific phrase. I did not say that I didn't use the two words "DVD artifacting" in my comment. My statement is specifically saying that I did not think you meant DVD artifacting because the exact words EXCLUDE DVD artifacting, as stated such:
"I'd bet those effects have more to do with the alternating fields than any actual DVD artifacting."
Of course I have to write the words "DVD artifacting" to be able to exclude that term as a specific problem, and for it to be understood. I can't substitute some sort of pronoun or other term here and have it make sense, okay?
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Dude!!! Why couldn't you have just left this alone??? I'm with Moog on this...
Ok, let's make it simpler for you. Here was my original point: I suspected the
de-interlacer in my dad's 42" Vizio LCD HDTV wasn't very good due to the combing he reported. We did a test using a SD-DVD copy of Gladiator and found the interlaced output from the DVD player resulted in some combing in a scene where the de-interlaced output from the DVD player didn't. This is talking about
de-interlacing and if his DVD player could do it better than his TV. This has nothing to do with DVD artifacting, or scaling, or none of that.
You are the one who mentioned anything about "DVD artifacting" of any kind when I'm talking about de-interlacing only. Is this hard for you to grasp or something? Since you introduced "DVD artifacting" into my contribution to this discussion, I guess it makes sense for you to then exclude that as a possible culprit.
Moving right along...
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Well, actually it was basically the same thing, because your very first comments were about your Dad watching 1080i signal upconverted to 1080p on his set and noticing visual anomolies, which you then tested against a direct 720p signal, and that the 720p signal reduced some anomolies, as stated in your comments as such:
"Yep, I agree. I've seen this (to some degree) on my dad's 42" Vizio 1080p LCD HDTV. We have an $80 Toshiba upconverting DVD player connected to it via HDMI and I was testing feeding the set 720p output from the player as well as 1080i output. We used Gladiator as the test material. During one scene, I saw some artifacting when feeding the TV a 1080i signal that disappeared when we fed it a 720p signal. This isn't scientific but made me wonder it the Toshiba player could de-interlace better than the TV. When watching 1080i over cable, my dad often notices combing which shouldn't happen if a good de-interlacer is involved. Perhaps his TV is a "flag reader" or something."
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Ok, I give up. You win. If you can't even read and comprehend what I posted, then I'm just wasting my time.
Peace...