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Old 04-29-2008, 05:51 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ganthc View Post
Agreed. In the 300brd thread, there are arguments again that DNR and grain removal is akin to upconvert dvd. I disagree completely. I think it isn't about pan & scan vs widescreen being the same. I think it is film purists that are just trying to argue that films look terrible when you remove the grain and noise. In some cases, it should stay, but if 300 had been without the noise, and still had the same level of detail (which I think it could have), then it really wouldn't have bothered me. Perhaps the director and some purists would throw hissy fits, but if blu-ray movies don't have to look like "Sleepy Hollow" or "Hoosiers" then I won't be registering any complaints.
Again, that may be true for film purists, but I'd be the ranch that J6P prefers a "clear" image that "pops" over a grainy one that is source accurate... Just like they preferred pan&scan movies that "filled the screen" over widescreen movies and the evil black bars that were source accurate! J6P sadly just wants the more shiny one.

New Line is probably trying to appeal to both groups. Remove some grain to capture J6P's favor, but not so much that the purists go ballistic.

Also re: upconvert DVD, my point in the other thread was that J6P may prefer a highly processed image accentuating the color, lack of grain & noise, & pumped artificial detail to the original unprocessed image which may contain grain, less pumped colors, and more source-accurate detail. For J6P its not about what is more accurate, its about which one "pops" better IMO. That's why they set up the TVs in Best Buy with all the horrendous post-processing turned on and settings jacked up, because it sells TVs. Remember, I'm not talking about current upcon (though Silicon Optix and Anchor Bay have some pretty awesome solutions), but the proposed nextgen upcons where much more extensive post processing will take place to make DVDs "pop" similar to HDTV.
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