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Old 07-04-2008, 08:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by videoworx View Post
Don't start this again...the most popular BD player in the world is the PS3, which has USB ports, and wireless access to practically any media server. Thus, most Blu-Ray player owners will have access to more (and better quality) media than this fabled DVD/HD whizzbang device.
Blu-ray will have better quality, but if Toshiba goes ahead with this plan they have a far larger potential userbase than Blu-ray. Even if you add up all the PS3s in the world the number is dwarfed compared to PCs+laptops sold in the past 3 years plus XBOX 360s & HD DVD players & whatever future box this generates on top of that.

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Downloadable content won't approach BD bitrates for many years. Regardless of codec, the image and sound quality cannot possibly compete with anything found on a BD. Might not matter to some, but it does to people who hang out in home theatre forums.
Again, this new DVD/HD format does not appear to attempt to rival Blu-ray in terms of packaged media, but is instead a bridge to non-packaged media. I think that the sound and video in an 8GB encode can compete with Blu-ray; it won't be as good, but it will most definitely be able to compete. Heck, if you look at the AVSFORUM effective resolution test a massive amount of Blu-ray Discs don't offer more than effective 720p resolution.

Still, I think you'd have two different markets which is why it appears Toshiba is open to having this tech on BD players.

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If this fantastic format is real, it has epic fail written all over it. Horrible backwards compatibility with current DVD players (something Ruined despises about Blu-Ray), and a non-proven commerical delivery platform. I wouldn't expect anything different from Toshiba.
Again, it depends on market forces. If Blockbuster gets behind it then it could be a credible threat to the business of packaged media, similar to how iPod was with the CD market. It could be as simple as Toshiba offering Blockbuster a good deal on competition to the upcoming Netflix boxes. If Toshiba just makes the tech available and no one uses it, then obviously it will fail; BD has done pretty weak since the format war ended for these reasons among others. Also, technically there should be no barrier to backwards compatibility with standard DVD players if 3X DVD packaged media is used.

Someone just needs to make the right box to make video downloads more accessible for people... Perhaps this is what Toshiba is aiming for here.

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Originally Posted by Sehnzeleid
Blu-ray is at 2.0, who cares what Toshiba does at this point?
With gas prices the way they are + the economy + the fact that the most bare-bones stripped down noname BD player is still $300 + the high price of BD blanks, Toshiba could still pose a threat to Blu-ray if they were able to deliver cheaper HD to the still-untapped public masses. Most likely they will fail, but in this type of scenario who knows? I guess I don't feel that it is safe until that market is addressed.
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