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Old 02-09-2000, 03:09 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Well sorry I ruffled your feathers Justin. I myself was a little off put by the mocking of my ideas and how you "would love to be a multi billionaire and to enter the history books!" based on my "secret". However, putting that aside, I'm not just some yahoo who knows nothing of what I'm talking about either. I'm 2/3 of the way through a degree in Electrical Engineering and I have taken some classes dealing with digital technology and ones dealing with transmission lines. I'm not sure what your degree is, but I won't assume it's inferior to mine. Also, it's not ludicrous to compare computer technology to home theater technology. The thing is, much of the computer technology is just like if not the same as in HT technology. It's a very similar process: You read the original digital information off the media; hard disk in a computer, DVD in a DVD player. You then send that information, still digitally encoded, through a cable and/or connection to a hardware conversion unit; the receiver in your HT or the soundcard in your computer. This hardware then converts the information into an analogue form to be sent out to your speakers. If what you're saying is true, then the quality of my IDE cable can and will greatly affect the quality of playback of .wav's or .mp3's on my computer. Somehow, I don't think so.

It's not that I absolutely refuse to believe you're right Justin, I just don't think you've provided much to convince me or others for that matter. I would like to see your evidence you mentioned because I'm eager to see if that will clarify and/or provide the relevant information to make your case. I'm aware that all signals will be affected by the medium of the transmission line, but isn't digital encoding used to circumvent this limitation? I may have oversimplified my argument by saying you get the exact same signal. This is not necessarily true. But, you do get the exact same info out of the signal. In the end, all that's being looked for is pulses and lack of pulses. If the hardware conversion isn't getting the digital info right, you don't get degraded sound (this would happen in an analogue signal since it's translating a continuous wave and not decoding pulses) but instead the sound would just be wrong. If this is not the case, then why are people not worried about the quality of the cable connecting their floppy disk to their hard drive? If the cable can affect the digital info going through it, wouldn't this affect the quality of the .jpg I'm copying from the floppy to the hard disk? Would the red shirt on the person in the picture be not as red as it was originally? If so, then we must all have slightly different versions of the same games on our computers because the IDE cable quality is not the same in everybody's computers I'm sure.

Anyway, if you don’t want to continue what I thought was great discussion, fine. I didn’t mean to insult you or deride you if that’s the impression you got. I was originally just looking for an explanation as to how the two cable types could be sending different info. I just don’t think anybody gave me any real information as to how. Justin claims that there is an obvious difference detectable by the ear, and yet strangely all the people here who claimed to have tried this said they could not find any difference. And no offense Justin, but just because somebody claims that they should know what they are talking about doesn’t necessarily mean they are right. I’m not saying my experience makes me absolutely right myself and I would never claim to either. In the end, I guess I’m just providing a counter argument to your argument. The others can decide for themselves.


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