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I hope one of my local high end shops gets this in. I like the wiz bang bells and whistles, but I'm not willing to pay extra for it, I mean over what a comparable high end processor/amp costs.
I've been in the market for about a year now, and I still haven't found exactly what I'm looking for.
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So if all you want is killer sound from movie soundtracks, a really good top end receiver should do quite nicely. But if you want the absolute best from both worlds, you really can't beat quality separates. I'm a 50% music, 50% movie person, so for me I want the best for both. This is why I "really" want this new Denon .Seth |
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I like Denon electronics, don't get me wrong, but their recievers have always sounded a bit 'bright' to me, how do you know this is going to be better than other high end processors?
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Now I have also used a flagship receiver from another Japanese company (Onkyo), and that one did sound bright. I thought that maybe if I went with their high end division (Integra Research) that it would sound not as bright. So I bought the company's RDC-7 pre-amp/processor. But just like it's receiver counterpart it also was bright. But this also had a lot to do with the way the Onkyo systems interacted with my Martin Logans and the amplifiers I use. I have a friend with Legacy Audio speakers and owned the Integra Research and he loved the sound. So not all components sound good in all systems. Since I have used Denon gear, and know that they sound great with my Logan's, is why I feel so positive that this new pre/processor will be awesome! Seth |
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Zeph (may I call you Zeph?
),Which brands are currently making affordable separates? Are there any in the $1k range for both components? Or, at the price, is it better to stick with a flagship AVR?
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![]() Actually there are some high quality affordable seaparates available. But "affordable" in the separates realm is like $1,000 for a Pre/Processor and $1,500 for a 5 channel amp. $2,500 in the real world of things is still a chunk of change. Even at this lower priced side of separates, one will still get an improvement in sound quality for music listening. But for whiz bang movie soundtracks in this price range, it will be hard to beat what a receiver can do. So I would say get the most full featured receiver you can afford. And most likely it will have decoding for at least Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, and of course regular Dolby Digital/EX and DTS/ES. And some mid line receivers are THX Select certified as well. Be sure to get one that has HDMI 1.3 Seth |
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I dunno, I don't think I'd pay $7k for a Denon. In that price range might as well go with a Lexicon.
Also, its worth noting that Onkyo's flagship receiver coming out for $1899 this fall has most of the features of this denon, and apparently has completely seperate circuitry for amp/preamp.
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If you are happy with Pioneer and the way it sounds for you, I'd stick with their receivers. Like the old saying goes, "if it ain't broke don't fix it" .Seth |
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Yeah, the Pioneer has been wonderful. They're not yet making 1.3 models, but I may get one of those 1.2 passthrough ones until they start selling their new AVRs.
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My first choice in pre/pro's was Classe' with their SSP-600 Delta series model. But even that one is behind the curve when compared to the Denon. But the Classe' has to be the sexiest pre/pro I've seen. Too bad it doesn't do HDMI 1.3a and decoding for all the new codecs. If it did I would be getting it. And since they just released the SSP-600 a little over a year ago, I don't see them coming out with a new model to replace this one until at least next year sometime. Even ultra high end companies like Theta and Meridian don't offer decoding for the new codecs. Heck they don't even offer HDMI switching, let alone 1.3a. And for their selling prices of $14k-$18k they should! Re Onkyo, I am very familiar with their flagship receiver lines. I used Onkyo exclusively for a number of years when I had Paradigm speakers. Onkyo is a match made in heaven for Paradigm's. But for electrostatic speakers like Martin Logan, it's a very bad combination. The sound is way too bright. I even tried a pre/pro from Onkyo's high end division (Integra Research RDC-7), and that didn't go with my Logan's either. So while I hold Onkyo products in high esteem, for the current system I have now it just won't do. So for everything that the Denon will do, it's going to be hard to beat. Seth Last edited by zepherman : 07-09-2007 at 08:28 PM. |
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Well it looks like even though Denon's Blu-ray player is going to be delayed until Spring '08, their advanced AV controller will be available by years end. And pricing has officially been announced at $7,000. So it looks like I won't have to wait till next year after all.
![]() Here's the whole scoop on this AV controller from CEDIA in Denver: Quote:
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I have one on pre-order!:D
The pre/pro is scheduled for release the third week of February. I just had my dealer pre-order one for me. So if all goes as planned I should be enjoying full blown TrueHD and DTS-HD MA in a little over a month. Just wanted to share the good new with you guys!
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Well, you combine that puppy with some tube amps that have balanced audio inputs, you wouldn't need a new sound system for what... 30-40 years?
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Now what would really be sweet is to have Denon's new Blu-ray transport connected to this thing. Oh my, if I had that as well, I would never leave the house ![]() Seth |
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Denon AVP-A1HDCI/POA-A1HDCI Official spec sheets
I have the official spec sheets for both of these units. Pretty impressive stuff.
http://avforum.no/forum/attachments/...eet-121907.pdf http://avforum.no/forum/attachments/...0121907-1-.pdf Last edited by zepherman : 01-29-2008 at 08:47 AM. |
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Denon recently posted the AVR-5308CI, the receiver version of the AVP-A1HDCI.
http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3755.asp# |
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So until I can actually get a hold of a manual for the pre/pro, at least I have something I can read through to start learning how to do what. ![]() You know it's amazing how many current owners of pre/pro's from the likes of Krell, Classe', Theta, Meridian, etc. are either buying a Denon AVP-A1HDCI or are strongly considering one. I think that even Classe' thought that Denon may steal some of the thunder from their upcoming SSP-800 as it was originally going to sell for $11k- $12k, and has now been "officially" lowered to a much friendlier $8k MSRP. But the Classe' SSP-800 still won't offer half of what the Denon will. The Classe' will have no network/Wi-Fi capability, no decoding for TrueHD and DTS HD MA, no Audyssey MultEQ XT/Pro, no HQV Realta, and the list goes on. So in my opinion, the Denon is going to be the high end pre/pro to beat for under $20k. The only pre/pro that will do "almost" everything the Denon will is the Krell Evolution 707, and that puppy is going to run around $20k! Seth |
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Here's a video clip from Cinenow.TV that shows a pre-production AVP-A1HDCI/POA-A1HDCI from the What HiFi Sound & Vision show held last year. Even though the pair shown at the show were pre-production units, it's still cool to check out.
http://us.cinenow.com/videos/1120-de...sion-show-2007 |
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Thanks Iggy ![]() Believe me I am counting down the days for this thing to arrive. I've only been following this pre/pro since like what,early last year? Now that it is "finally" a reality I am so jazzed about it. I love my Sunfire TGIII, and will keep it as a back up unit, but this new Denon with all its goodies is going to be freakin' awesome! And an added bonus is that it comes with a 3 year factory warranty. So now I have about a month before my new pre/pro arrives. So I have between now and then to get things ready for its arrival. I already ordered some new audioquest/cinemaquest HDMI-3 cables (3 meter and 1 meter) and a 50 ft CAT 6a shielded cable for streaming music from my PC. Once the Cat 6a cable arrives I'll have it in place and ready to just connect to the Denon's Ethernet port. I know that there will be a long learning curve to this thing, as it has so many features, setting, and adjustments. Probably a year from now I'll probably still be learning new stuff about it. Once I get it I'll be sure to give a detailed review. Seth |
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Yeah I'm pretty jazzed about this one. And yes, it is a good chunk of change, but if it does everything Denon says it will, and if it sounds as good as I'm thinking it will, then It'll be well worth the price of admission.Seth |
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Owners manuals for the AVP-A1HDCI pre/pro and POA-A1HDCI 10 channel amplifier
If anyone is curious as to what the owners manuals for these two are all about, here they are.
http://www.usa.denon.com/AVP-A1HDCI-OM-E_004.pdf http://www.usa.denon.com/POA-A1HDCI-OM-E_005.pdf |
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And here's what Jeff Talmadge of Denon had to say about the upcoming pre/pro.
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