Pirate needs a Sub before any other expenditures!

Iguana Man · 07-05-2007, 10:53 PM

I do this from the kindness of my heart. I do. This is a serious situation that I feel is getting exponentially out of control.

Pirate needs a new sub, plain and simple.

After reading many threads and barely remembering them, it appears PH needs to do what is right by the hand of the Audio Gods. That to me is a new sub. A new sub should prioritize his needs at this point and nothing else.

So, I ask you fellow Filers to participate in smacking some sense into this boy. It's all for a good reason and all for sanctity. Sanctity? Meh...I can't even figure out why I used that word, but so be it.

Here we go.

Vonner · 07-05-2007, 10:59 PM

I agree fully. I suggest an SVS.

Taxi · 07-05-2007, 11:00 PM

The chance that PirateHat will break down and get a new sub? You do the math.

**Pirate** · 07-05-2007, 11:01 PM

[Pirate walks into the room and asks nervously: "What are you all doing here?"]

I wholeheartedly agree that I need a new sub—and have needed one for some time. However, I watch a large amount of HD content and my current receiver—although brilliant with SD material—does not do a good job with analog bass management. This puts me in an awkward position. If I get a new sub, it’ll only be of use when watching SD-DVD. So, do I put the cart before the horse and get the sub or get a receiver that can utilize the sub?

**Pirate** · 07-05-2007, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vonner

I agree fully. I suggest an SVS.

Iguana Man · 07-05-2007, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taxi

The chance that PirateHat will break down and get a new sub? You do the math.

Now THAT is funny.

**Pirate** · 07-05-2007, 11:09 PM

The sub I want is $900. I just don't have that right now, so unless you want to suggest a kick-ass placeholder sub...

**Pirate** · 07-05-2007, 11:31 PM

I guess I could go one notch down and get the Martin Logan Dynamo instead of the Abyss.

http://www.us.martinlogan.com/specs/dynamo.html

EM3 · 07-06-2007, 12:59 PM

Try www.hsuresearch.com

I may pull the trigger in late August for the VTF 2 MK3 series. Thanks to all those here I have come to realize that speakers are an investment.

**Pirate** · 07-06-2007, 04:23 PM

What I like about the Martin Logan subs is that they pack as much punch as a larger HSU, but are much smaller.

EM3 · 07-06-2007, 06:47 PM

That would fit real nice into my living room but the budget would be shot!

**Pirate** · 07-06-2007, 09:50 PM

Iggy told me never to get a 10" sub, though.

Iguana Man · 07-06-2007, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratehunter

Iggy told me never to get a 10" sub, though.

Did I really say *burp* that? If so, YAY!

For your sized room I do believe more surface area (inches) is better just like more cubic inches. That's just me though.

See your other sub related thread please.

ganthc · 07-16-2007, 10:08 PM

I said he should get a new AVR, so he stops whining about the analog versus hdmi connection thing. Jeez!!!

***chlngr1970*** · 07-17-2007, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganthc

I said he should get a new AVR, so he stops whining about the analog versus hdmi connection thing. Jeez!!!

j

Ruined · 07-18-2007, 06:38 PM

http://www.velodyne.com/velodyne/pro...3&sid=292x886h

SPL-800R - small but potent

$899
http://www.amazon.com/Velodyne-SPL80.../dp/B000AAHJPY

**Pirate** · 07-23-2007, 07:32 PM

That Velo is the same price as the ML. Why do you people wish to drive me from ML?!

zepherman · 07-23-2007, 08:58 PM

That's a good question pirate. I'm curious as well.

**Pirate** · 07-23-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zepherman

That's a good question Pirate. I'm curious as well.

I'm sure Velo is good, but the Abyss sounded awesome... and it's front and bottom firing.

Iguana Man · 07-23-2007, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratehunter

I'm sure Velo is good, but the Abyss sounded awesome... and it's front and bottom firing.

No it's not. It's front OR bottom firing.

**Pirate** · 07-23-2007, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

No it's not. It's front OR bottom firing.

I might get two...

zepherman · 07-23-2007, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratehunter

I might get two...

There you go!

Iguana Man · 07-23-2007, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratehunter

I might get two...

Look man, I ain't trying to steer you away from the ML. Honest. I just think as I've stated before (and given what I know of you), that once in your room that lightweight compared to even the 8" Velo Ruined linked, aint gonna cut it. The little 8" comes in weighing 5lbs more than the ML. It's magnet weighs 13lbs by itself! Given the ML is a 10" woofer, I wonder what it's magnet assembly weighs (they dont list it)?

The ML doesn't know if it should be a front or down firing sub? Versatility or not tuned for one specific purpose? Does the ML have built in calibration? A 6band EQ? Your new sub is not a avr or dvd player that gets upgraded once every few years. SPEND SUB MONEY NOW!

Sorry...the beer is taking hold of me and .... meh. I'll do the math and simply concede.

**Pirate** · 07-23-2007, 10:35 PM

Iggy, I'm looking at the Abyss:

Quote:

Frequency Response: 23–120 Hz ±3dB; Anechoic through LFE effects input

Input Impedance: Line level RCA: 20,000 ohms
LFE RCA: 34,000 ohms

Low Pass Filter Frequencies: 30–80 Hz

High Pass Filter Frequency: 70 Hz

Phase: 0°, 90°, 180°

Woofer Type: 12" (30.5cm) high excursion, aluminum element woofer with extended throw drive assembly

Amplifier: 300 watts rms (600 watts peak)

Inputs: Left/Right RCA line level, RCA LFE, Speaker Level

Outputs: RCA line level; RCA for multiple subwoofer connection

Weight: 40 lbs. (18.1 kg)

Dimensions (HxWxD): 15.8" × 13.5" × 15.2" (40.1 × 34.4 × 38.6 cm)

View Poll Results: Just Vote!
PH needs a new Sub. A really good Sub.	3	37.50%
PH needs a new Sub that's WAY better than his current one.	3	37.50%
PH doesn't need a new sub and should spend his money on a new avr.	2	25.00%
PH doesn't need a new sub but really should get a new kick ass Sub.	0	0%
Voters: 8. You may not vote on this poll

07-05-2007, 10:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	Pirate needs a Sub before any other expenditures! I do this from the kindness of my heart. I do. This is a serious situation that I feel is getting exponentially out of control. Pirate needs a new sub, plain and simple. After reading many threads and barely remembering them, it appears PH needs to do what is right by the hand of the Audio Gods. That to me is a new sub. A new sub should prioritize his needs at this point and nothing else. So, I ask you fellow Filers to participate in smacking some sense into this boy. It's all for a good reason and all for sanctity. Sanctity? Meh...I can't even figure out why I used that word, but so be it. Here we go. __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

07-05-2007, 10:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Vonner Previously, on '24'... Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Minnesota	I agree fully. I suggest an SVS. __________________ I was inappropriately blunt, wasn't I? I do that a lot. - Chloe O'Brian

07-05-2007, 11:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Taxi Admin Emeritus Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Orygun	The chance that PirateHat will break down and get a new sub? You do the math. __________________ *Admin Emeritus* \| DDS#42 No, I am not back. Eschew obfuscation.

07-05-2007, 11:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pirate Director/Moderator Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	[Pirate walks into the room and asks nervously: "What are you all doing here?"] I wholeheartedly agree that I need a new sub—and have needed one for some time. However, I watch a large amount of HD content and my current receiver—although brilliant with SD material—does not do a good job with analog bass management. This puts me in an awkward position. If I get a new sub, it’ll only be of use when watching SD-DVD. So, do I put the cart before the horse and get the sub or get a receiver that can utilize the sub? __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

07-05-2007, 11:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
Pirate Director/Moderator Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	The sub I want is $900. I just don't have that right now, so unless you want to suggest a kick-ass placeholder sub... __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

07-05-2007, 11:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
Pirate Director/Moderator Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	I guess I could go one notch down and get the Martin Logan Dynamo instead of the Abyss. http://www.us.martinlogan.com/specs/dynamo.html __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

07-06-2007, 12:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
EM3 "Suspended" Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Southern WV	Try www.hsuresearch.com I may pull the trigger in late August for the VTF 2 MK3 series. Thanks to all those here I have come to realize that speakers are an investment. __________________ The beatings will continue until morale improves!

07-06-2007, 04:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pirate Director/Moderator Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	What I like about the Martin Logan subs is that they pack as much punch as a larger HSU, but are much smaller. __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

07-06-2007, 06:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
EM3 "Suspended" Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Southern WV	That would fit real nice into my living room but the budget would be shot! __________________ The beatings will continue until morale improves!

07-06-2007, 09:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
Pirate Director/Moderator Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	Iggy told me never to get a 10" sub, though. __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

07-16-2007, 10:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
ganthc Actor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: "Vyenna", VA	I said he should get a new AVR, so he stops whining about the analog versus hdmi connection thing. Jeez!!! __________________ HOOK'EM!!! UT LONGHORNS - National Champs 2005-2006!!! http://ganthc.youaremighty.com

07-18-2007, 06:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ruined It's Good to Play Together Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NJ, USA	http://www.velodyne.com/velodyne/pro...3&sid=292x886h SPL-800R - small but potent $899 http://www.amazon.com/Velodyne-SPL80.../dp/B000AAHJPY __________________ For every shadow, no matter how deep, is threatened by morning light.

07-23-2007, 07:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
Pirate Director/Moderator Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	That Velo is the same price as the ML. Why do you people wish to drive me from ML?! __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

07-23-2007, 08:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
zepherman DVDFile HT Award Winner Join Date: Jan 2007	That's a good question pirate. I'm curious as well. __________________ My Martin Logan Theater My DVD Collection My CD Collection

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