Members here are low/mid/high end?

Iguana Man · 11-12-2007, 08:35 PM

Just curious fellas! Just CURIOUS. <--Okay?

How do you rate yourself in the wonderful world of audio/video?

It's another poll I promise to screw up but honestly, where do you fall in your mind?

(being honest with ones self is an admirable trait, remember that)

**Pirate** · 11-12-2007, 08:49 PM

I have no idea how to gauge something like this. It would really depend on the scale. I don't have a $12K projector, but I do have a better one than, say, something you'd buy at Best Buy.

I guess given the prices of my gear, I'd have to shoot for mid. But, again, I’m not sure

Ruined · 11-12-2007, 08:53 PM

I'm high end. Audiowise, I consider setups "better" than mine venturing into the realm of audio-quackery and snakeoil territory. That is not "high end" IMO.

Videowise, obviously you can do better than I did with a $5k FP. But a 60" 1080p24fps HDTV is better than "mid end". So I'd say High End for video too, just not Best possible.

Iguana Man · 11-12-2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratehunter

I have no idea how to gauge something like this.

And that is why being honest with ones self is key.

***chlngr1970*** · 11-13-2007, 12:47 AM

I said mid on the verge of High because, my Pio Elite receiver is almost the best one in their line. I hope to use that for a pre/pro and add amps to run the system, then pick up a nice pre/pro to replace it with. Then, 65" DLP, while not exactly bank breaking, it is definately better than most people I know ( Chromy, you don't count

) That I also hope to upgrade to a FP, prolly when we build a house, so I can have a theater room

j

tomdkat · 11-13-2007, 01:24 AM

I'm modest with a modest HT. I'm low-end with some mid-level gear.

Peace...

**SilentBob** · 11-13-2007, 05:56 AM

I'm Low End with some Mid or High level. This i think best describes me and my HT situation. I don't have a lot of money and have a crappy bedroom setup but i do like the equipment i have. I can enjoy the High Def formats for both sound and picture, but could always be better when you see other users and their setups.

Now if i had a better room to situate my HT setup then i would consider myself Mid level as i could make that room my own and dress it up with the movie posters/banners i get from work. Plus one day have the cool furniture setup too for big group gatherings

sub780lime · 11-13-2007, 08:02 PM

I don't know on this one. Parts of my setup are more mid, but what I dream of having does not have any of my current components in it so that is high to me. I would say I some mid stuff mixed with...I dont like the word low...we will call it normal.

Iguana Man · 11-13-2007, 08:11 PM

I was simply trying to honest with the terms Sub'. There is a perception out there for many that parlays into low/mid/high. Personally, I don't think of "low" as a bad thing. That's why I stressed being honest with ones self.

Also, "high" to me doesn't neccssarily mean $$$.

And damnit! Why am I doing Tom's job here?

**Pirate** · 11-13-2007, 08:12 PM

Where's Zeph's high-end ass?

Iguana Man · 11-13-2007, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratehunter

Where's Zeph's high-end ass?

See, there you go equating high to a$$. Wait, I didn't mean it that way! Wait!

(I can gaurentee you wouldn't care for those speakers dude - no offense Zeph')

esc · 11-14-2007, 04:54 PM

I said mid. My whole room only cost around 10K. That includes carpet, hardware and furniture. I have Polk speakers, a technics receiver and a 1080i LCD proj.

Ruined · 11-14-2007, 05:21 PM

I don't think cost should dictate low/mid/high end.

I mean some Bose setups cost as much as some of the higher end speakers but they actually sound like low-end speakers.

sub780lime · 11-14-2007, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

And damnit! Why am I doing Tom's job here?

What I said wasn't a criticism of your word choice, just what I wanted to call it.

billnye97 · 12-12-2007, 08:47 PM

Well I picked low end thinking this was just an audio question but if I had to do it over I would say low/mid level because of display. I'm seriously considering getting a new receiver so maybe I can move up in the world in a couple months.

plissken99 · 12-13-2007, 07:03 PM

I put mid on the verge of high end. My speakers cost more than most would spend, and the subwoofer is out of this world. My Denon reciever is awesome, but I hope to go with seperates one day soon. And now that I have the RS1 projector on the way, I can safely say I'm on the high end there.

So yeah when I get seperates I'll answer high end.

Synaptic Flow · 01-14-2008, 02:14 AM

I am low mid and fine with that. I have a suspicious opinion of audiophiles and even if I was rich I wouldn't go into the stratosphere. To me is just being a victim of human greed when people tell me... "Oh the $12000.00 speakers sound so much better than the $9000.00 ones" And I'm sitting there thinking "Yeah, because you know what the prices are."

Don't get me wrong, I think I have good hearing. I'm a musician (who has protected his ears) I just don't care to pursue owning the best in everything.

Sorry for going off on my little opinionated tangent, but I just can't help believing it. I will shush now.

Enjoy the silence...

zepherman · 01-14-2008, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate

Where's Zeph's high-end ass?

You had me laughing so hard my sides hurt!

That was just too funny! Of all the forums I am a member of, this one is by far my favorite! Gotta love the light hearted nature of this place.

Well it looks like I couldn't get out of this one that easy.

Yeah I guess my setup falls into the "high end" category.

I consider my Sunfire TGIII pre/pro high end, but the Denon AVP-A1HD that will soon be replacing it is really in the high end side of things. It could very well be the most technologically advanced pre/pro out there, which is why I'm getting one.

I guess the main reason I've gone the high end route with components and speakers is because to my ears it just sounds better. I've owned and used many different receivers, but once I went with separates there was no going back. What's cool about separates is that you can choose exactly what kind of amp you want to go with your pre/pro. How many watts you need, as many channels as you want, ability to bi-amp/ bi-wire your speakers etc.

I needed a lot of watts to drive my Martin Logans at 4 ohms, so my only option was quality separates. I now have more than enough with my Sunfire amp at 850 watts x 5 @ 4 ohms. And as long as it continues working I don't see the need to replace it.

The big Sony TV was a no brainer, as it offered the best PQ out of everything I saw at the time. And is still no slouch.

So yes It's high end, but there's a good reason for it

Seth

zepherman · 01-14-2008, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

See, there you go equating high to a$$. Wait, I didn't mean it that way! Wait!

(I can gaurentee you wouldn't care for those speakers dude - no offense Zeph')

You crack me up Iggy!

No offense taken

I love my Logan's, but taste in sound is definitely in the ear of the beholder.

zepherman · 01-14-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by plissken99

I put mid on the verge of high end. My speakers cost more than most would spend, and the subwoofer is out of this world. My Denon reciever is awesome, but I hope to go with seperates one day soon. And now that I have the RS1 projector on the way, I can safely say I'm on the high end there.

So yeah when I get seperates I'll answer high end.

Once you get separates you are in for an audio treat! And high quality separates don't need to break the bank to sound good, even mid level separates sound awesome!

I agree, Denon offers superb sound quality and their receivers are amazing. I owned a Denon receiver (AVR-5800) before I got the Sunfire and I loved it. When you do go the separates route what would you like to get?

Your soon to arrive RS1 projector is definitely in the high end of front projectors and one of the absolute best out there. That is one sweet unit!

Seth

zepherman · 01-14-2008, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruined

I don't think cost should dictate low/mid/high end.

I mean some Bose setups cost as much as some of the higher end speakers but they actually sound like low-end speakers.

Yup I have to agree with you on that one. Bose Isn't what I'd call high quality sound but they sure do charge enough for their stuff. Why Bose continues to charge a premium for their products is beyond me.

Probably because people keep on buying them.

plissken99 · 01-14-2008, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zepherman

Once you get separates you are in for an audio treat! And high quality separates don't need to break the bank to sound good, even mid level separates sound awesome!

I agree, Denon offers superb sound quality and their receivers are amazing. I owned a Denon receiver (AVR-5800) before I got the Sunfire and I loved it. When you do go the separates route what would you like to get?

Your soon to arrive RS1 projector is definitely in the high end of front projectors and one of the absolute best out there. That is one sweet unit!

Seth

Got the RS1 a month ago

, it is beyond incredible, best image I've ever seen.

Not entirely sure on the amps, I just sprung for a Toshiba XA2 on top of the RS1 and Xmas for the family, so thinking about other expensive toys actually gives my wallet a stroke.

I'm wondering about solid state vs tubes. The AMC 2030 tube amps are highly tempting, at about $500 each, only 30w per channel... but tube sound

. However with solid state, for that amount or considerably less, you get alot more wattage.

zepherman · 01-14-2008, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plissken99

Got the RS1 a month ago

, it is beyond incredible, best image I've ever seen.

Not entirely sure on the amps, I just sprung for a Toshiba XA2 on top of the RS1 and Xmas for the family, so thinking about other expensive toys actually gives my wallet a stroke.

I'm wondering about solid state vs tubes. The AMC 2030 tube amps are highly tempting, at about $500 each, only 30w per channel... but tube sound

. However with solid state, for that amount or considerably less, you get alot more wattage.

Wow I'm only a month behind the times.

That's right you did say you had ordered one last month. My bad.

I can only imagine just how jaw dropping the images are from it. If I were to get a front projector it would definitely be a JVC.

Tubes, now that's one thing I have not used. I know that a lot of people who use them swear by them and the smooth sound they give. I have listened to systems with tube amplifiers and tubed CD players. The sound was amazing.

My Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature amplifier is all solid state but Bob Carver designed it in such a way that it offers a very close tube like warmth to its sound. I guess it's the closest I was able to get to tubes without actually using them.

I guess the only negatives with tubes is low watts per channel and the nessesity to replace them from time to time (which can be expensive depending on what brand you use).

Seth

plissken99 · 01-14-2008, 05:49 PM

When I was shopping for recievers, Sunfires were at the top of my list over Denon, but so very expensive. Thats still a route worth considering over seperates, or maybe Sunfire amps, if there is such a thing. Tube prices are generally cheap, plus I happen know a guitar repair guy who gets em cheap!

zepherman · 01-14-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plissken99

When I was shopping for recievers, Sunfires were at the top of my list over Denon, but so very expensive. Thats still a route worth considering over seperates, or maybe Sunfire amps, if there is such a thing. Tube prices are generally cheap, plus I happen know a guitar repair guy who gets em cheap!

Yes Sunfire makes one heck of a nice receiver, and probably the most powerful one also (200 watts x 7 @ 8ohms). It's 4 ohm stable but doesn't mention power ratings for that. But knowing Sunfire It's probably 400 watts x 7). Yes they are expensive, and as such should at least include decoding for TrueHD and DTS-HD/HD MA. But for the time being Sunfire's decoding and HDMI is behind the curve.

But as far as stand alone multichannel amps go, Sunfire's are some of the best available. With gobs of power available and a great design that produces nearly no heat, Sunfire amps are amazing. Like their pre/pro, their amps are a bit pricey as well. But if you look around at places like Audiogon and eBay, you could very well find a 5 or 7 channel amp for a very good price.

Tubes are nice and sound great, but if you hunger for power a solid state is the best way to go. Now you could get a nice 2 channel tube amp (for the mains) and a 5 channel solid state amp for the rest of the speakers. This way for music listening you can enjoy all the benefits of that tube sound, and for full tilt movie watching, the 5 channel amp in the mix will deliver the surround goods.

View Poll Results: Judge yourself.
I'm High End. No question about it.	2	6.45%
I'm Mid level but verge on High End.	7	22.58%
I'm Mid Level.	10	32.26%
I'm Low End with some Mid or High level.	6	19.35%
I'm Low End.	5	16.13%
Tom will rip my poll to pieces with his insight.	1	3.23%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

11-12-2007, 08:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	Members here are low/mid/high end? Just curious fellas! Just CURIOUS. <--Okay? How do you rate yourself in the wonderful world of audio/video? It's another poll I promise to screw up but honestly, where do you fall in your mind? (being honest with ones self is an admirable trait, remember that) __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

11-12-2007, 08:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pirate Director/Moderator Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	I have no idea how to gauge something like this. It would really depend on the scale. I don't have a $12K projector, but I do have a better one than, say, something you'd buy at Best Buy. I guess given the prices of my gear, I'd have to shoot for mid. But, again, I’m not sure __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

11-12-2007, 08:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ruined It's Good to Play Together Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NJ, USA	I'm high end. Audiowise, I consider setups "better" than mine venturing into the realm of audio-quackery and snakeoil territory. That is not "high end" IMO. Videowise, obviously you can do better than I did with a $5k FP. But a 60" 1080p24fps HDTV is better than "mid end". So I'd say High End for video too, just not Best possible. __________________ For every shadow, no matter how deep, is threatened by morning light.

11-13-2007, 12:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
*chlngr1970* Producer/Admin Tenacious "OB" Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Spanaway Washington	I said mid on the verge of High because, my Pio Elite receiver is almost the best one in their line. I hope to use that for a pre/pro and add amps to run the system, then pick up a nice pre/pro to replace it with. Then, 65" DLP, while not exactly bank breaking, it is definately better than most people I know ( Chromy, you don't count ) That I also hope to upgrade to a FP, prolly when we build a house, so I can have a theater room j __________________ "The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and be loved in return" Christian, Moulin Rouge

11-13-2007, 01:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
tomdkat Official Forum Warmonger "Dial Tone" Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hayward, CA, USA	I'm modest with a modest HT. I'm low-end with some mid-level gear. Peace... __________________ My DVD Aficionado List "At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!"

11-13-2007, 05:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
SilentBob Silent Director/Silent Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Burlington, Ontario	*I'm Low End with some Mid or High level.* This i think best describes me and my HT situation. I don't have a lot of money and have a crappy bedroom setup but i do like the equipment i have. I can enjoy the High Def formats for both sound and picture, but could always be better when you see other users and their setups. Now if i had a better room to situate my HT setup then i would consider myself Mid level as i could make that room my own and dress it up with the movie posters/banners i get from work. Plus one day have the cool furniture setup too for big group gatherings __________________ SilentBob's DVD's Supporting both HD-DVD and Blu-ray XBOX LIVE: luvthempocket8s PS3 ONLINE: pokerlover

11-13-2007, 08:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
sub780lime Can't Spell Bilbo Join Date: May 2002 Location: A Galaxy Far Far Away	I don't know on this one. Parts of my setup are more mid, but what I dream of having does not have any of my current components in it so that is high to me. I would say I some mid stuff mixed with...I dont like the word low...we will call it normal. __________________ love comes and goes, but an avatar . . . that's forever. - Pirate

11-13-2007, 08:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	I was simply trying to honest with the terms Sub'. There is a perception out there for many that parlays into low/mid/high. Personally, I don't think of "low" as a bad thing. That's why I stressed being honest with ones self. Also, "high" to me doesn't neccssarily mean $$$. And damnit! Why am I doing Tom's job here? __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

11-13-2007, 08:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pirate Director/Moderator Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	Where's Zeph's high-end ass? __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

11-14-2007, 04:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
esc Stay behind my aura! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: camrose, alberta, canada	I said mid. My whole room only cost around 10K. That includes carpet, hardware and furniture. I have Polk speakers, a technics receiver and a 1080i LCD proj. __________________ -I Early Adopted... Then It All Went Wrong -my collection (hasn't been updated in a long time)

11-14-2007, 05:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ruined It's Good to Play Together Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NJ, USA	I don't think cost should dictate low/mid/high end. I mean some Bose setups cost as much as some of the higher end speakers but they actually sound like low-end speakers. __________________ For every shadow, no matter how deep, is threatened by morning light.

12-12-2007, 08:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
billnye97 Actor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In a van down by the river	Well I picked low end thinking this was just an audio question but if I had to do it over I would say low/mid level because of display. I'm seriously considering getting a new receiver so maybe I can move up in the world in a couple months. __________________ "I don't drink coffee, sir. I don't drink hot liquids of any kind. That's the devil's temperature." ~ Kenneth the Page. 30 Rock

12-13-2007, 07:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
plissken99 Actor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dallas, Ft Worth	I put mid on the verge of high end. My speakers cost more than most would spend, and the subwoofer is out of this world. My Denon reciever is awesome, but I hope to go with seperates one day soon. And now that I have the RS1 projector on the way, I can safely say I'm on the high end there. So yeah when I get seperates I'll answer high end. __________________ “The more things change, the more they stay the same.” Snake Plissken Plissken's DVD, HD-DVD and Blu Ray collection And Plissken's home theater

01-14-2008, 02:14 AM	#17 (permalink)
Synaptic Flow Actor Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee	I am low mid and fine with that. I have a suspicious opinion of audiophiles and even if I was rich I wouldn't go into the stratosphere. To me is just being a victim of human greed when people tell me... "Oh the $12000.00 speakers sound so much better than the $9000.00 ones" And I'm sitting there thinking "Yeah, because you know what the prices are." Don't get me wrong, I think I have good hearing. I'm a musician (who has protected his ears) I just don't care to pursue owning the best in everything. Sorry for going off on my little opinionated tangent, but I just can't help believing it. I will shush now. Enjoy the silence... __________________ Just another day in the life of a modern Otaku

01-14-2008, 05:49 PM	#24 (permalink)
plissken99 Actor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dallas, Ft Worth	When I was shopping for recievers, Sunfires were at the top of my list over Denon, but so very expensive. Thats still a route worth considering over seperates, or maybe Sunfire amps, if there is such a thing. Tube prices are generally cheap, plus I happen know a guitar repair guy who gets em cheap! __________________ “The more things change, the more they stay the same.” Snake Plissken Plissken's DVD, HD-DVD and Blu Ray collection And Plissken's home theater