The Girl Next Door/Emile Hirsch discussion

JackieSantos_8 · 08-11-2004, 04:11 PM

Was it me, or did this movie remind you alot of 80's teen movies? I loved it, I thought it was funny and totally brought me back to the times when I was in highschool. I am curious to see what the unrated version will bring us. I mean I know there are a bunch of deleted scenes, but I guess we will find out soon enough (august 24th) I love that we can pre-order!. What other movies has Emile Hirsch been in?

Marq · 09-01-2004, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JackieSantos_8

What other movies has Emile Hirsch been in?

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Lords of Dogtown (2005) (filming) .... Jay Adams
Imaginary Heroes (2004) .... Tim Travis
Girl Next Door, The (2004) .... Matthew Kidman
Mudge Boy, The (2003) .... Duncan Mudge
Emperor's Club, The (2002) .... Sedgewick Bell
Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys, The (2002) .... Francis Doyle
Wild Iris (2001) (TV) .... Lonnie Bravard
Houdini (1998) (TV) .... Young Houdini
Gargantua (1998) (TV) .... Brandon Ellway

Notable TV Guest Appearances

"700 Club, The" (1966) playing "Himself" 22 November 2002
"ER" (1994) playing "Chad Kottmeier" in episode: "How the Finch Stole Christmas" (episode # 6.9) 16 December 1999
"ER" (1994) playing "Chad Kottmeier" in episode: "Humpty Dumpty" (episode # 6.7) 18 November 1999
"NYPD Blue" (1993) playing "Marcello Parisi" in episode: "Voir Dire This" (episode # 6.21) 18 May 1999
"Pretender, The" (1996) playing "Bryce Banks" in episode: "End Game" (episode # 3.19) 8 May 1999
"Profiler" (1996) playing "Bryce Banks" in episode: "Grand Master" (episode # 3.19) 8 May 1999
"Promised Land" (1996) playing "Walter Elliott" in episode: "A Day in the Life" (episode # 3.18) 22 April 1999
"Sabrina, the Teenage Witch" (1996) playing "Darryl" in episode: "Sabrina the Matchmaker" (episode # 3.16) 12 February 1999
"Two of a Kind" (1998) playing "Jeremy" in episode: "Let's Dance" (episode # 1.12) 8 January 1999
"Players" (1997) playing "Adam Paprelli" in episode: "Con-Vivants" (episode # 1.18) 17 April 1998
"Early Edition" (1996) playing "Lance Foster" in episode: "March in Time" (episode # 2.8) 15 November 1997
"3rd Rock from the Sun" (1996) playing "Punk" in episode: "Scardy Dick" (episode # 3.5) 29 October 1997
"Kindred: The Embraced" (1996) playing "Dying Boy" in episode: "Romeo and Juliet" (episode # 1.4) 10 April 1996

I'm most interested in discovering that 1966 appearance on The 700 Club myself. Musta been somethin' else.

limacharliewhiskey · 09-01-2004, 04:50 PM

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I'm most interested in discovering that 1966 appearance on The 700 Club myself. Musta been somethin' else.

I think it means the 700 Club show has been around since 1966, and he appeared on the show on Nov. 22, 2002.

Marq · 09-01-2004, 05:15 PM

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I think it means the 700 Club show has been around since 1966, and he appeared on the show on Nov. 22, 2002.

Ruin all my fun...

Anyways, the bottom line is the dude appeared on The 700 Club. I'll take a wild stab and say it had something to do with his performace in "...Alter Boys".

tomdkat · 09-03-2004, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JackieSantos_8

Was it me, or did this movie remind you alot of 80's teen movies?

Nope, I didn't think of 80s teen movies at all. I found the movie to be quite enjoyable.

Peace...

dvdWarrior · 12-07-2004, 04:05 AM

I haven't had the opportunity to see The Girl Next Door yet, but in my opinion, The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys andThe Emperor's Club are both outstanding films.

manigrasso · 12-07-2004, 09:10 PM

Early in the movie, I think when Emile Hirsch first sees Elisha Cuthbert, the music being used is so Tangerine Dream-y, it had to have been meant to be a Risky Business homage. As was most of the movie.

Anyway, I found the entire movie oddly joyless. Hirsch was passable, but bland. The situations he was put in were interesting (or were supposed to be), but he himself never was. He never brought anything to the role. I understand the idea that porn hottie next door might want/need someone normal, but "normal" and "boring" are not mutually exclusive terms. And the same was true for her. Aside from being ridiculously hot, there was nothing about Cuthbert that was so awesome I could imagine an honor roll student chucking it all for her.

But of course that's part of the point, isn't it? The idea is not that Hirsch's character was in love, but in flux. Stuck on a path where he was not allowed to deviate, lest his whole future get fucked up, and needing something that wasn't that path to focus some of his energies on. He could have discovered stamp collecting or ham radio instead of a hot next door neighbor, and though there would've been considerably less eye candy, the script would have made just as much sense.

Maybe I'm just showing my age (I did feel a bit like a Chester watching it), but even the more comic exploits in the script felt like they were taking themselves seriously. And maybe I'm wrong on this, but it also felt like between the movie's production and release, Elisha Cuthbert became much more of a deal, so attempts were made to make more out of her performance.

And the final conflict between Hirsch and Olyphant was so ridiculous. As much as I tried in vain to suspend my disbelief for the rest of the plot, here's what I got out of the final conflict.

Olyphant: You stole my best stars & ripped off my ideas, now I'm gonna destroy you.

Hirsch: Actually, I didn't steal your idea. I made it better.

Olyphant: Awwwww, ya got me! Good on ya, mate! Good luck in all your future endeavors!

Seems to me that anyone as bitter & jaded as Olyphant's character still would've beat the shit out of Hirsch on principle: Maybe you didn't steal my idea but now my idea can't be used, AND you still stole my best stars, so I'm going to fucking kill you. Not as upbeat, but it makes more sense to me.

And, if it needs to be said...no Cuthbert nudity? bad movie! BAAAD!
Sorry I can't join in on anyone else's enthusiasm.

Damian · 12-08-2004, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieSantos_8

Was it me, or did this movie remind you alot of 80's teen movies?

I didn't think of 80's teen movies at all either. As a matter of fact I didn't really enjoy this movie that much. I rarely laughed and wasn't really emotionally moved by the story either.
In my opinion there was a lot more comedy and heart in the 80's teen movies.
I'm not saying The Girl Next Door was a bad movie, just saying I didn't care much for it.

Jimbo 345 · 12-13-2004, 01:19 AM

The Girl Next Door is a great movie. It is downright hilarious, emotionally moving, and thanks to Elisha Cuthbert sexy as hell. My DVD came with a free poster of her. What I choose to do with it id rather not say.

Bantam · 12-15-2004, 07:37 PM

I agree, it was a great movie and it reminded me more of John Hughes' work than a lot of teen films of the 90's. The scene at the begining in the gym is hilarious.

Jimbo 345 · 12-20-2004, 08:55 PM

Girl Next Door lines that never fail to get me to smile

"Beach is for fags man"

"So did you bang her"

"Dude what the fuck"

"Ah ah the whole package"

"Whats the craziest thing you've done lately"

"Good night, what are you gay I would have nailed her"

"Dude Im kind of uncomfertable watching this with you"
"Dude learn to like it"

"Im all wet can I come it"

"Dude"
"I know"

"Take her to a hotel room and bang her like a beast"

"God damit mate I swear to God if you don't fuck her I'll kill myself. Please, please Matt fuck her for me. For me"

"Do you want to fuck me"

"Fuck Im good, how do I get these ideas its like a gift its like I can't control it"

"I am I really am"

"Directers these punks aint directers there in high school you idiot"

"Wait up dude"
"Fuck you dude"

"That fucking bitch can't just run off cause she don't want to fuck on film anymore"

"Stay in school"

"Now were really think outside the box now. How far are you willing to go, how much do you really care about her"

"Damn do I look gay to you"

"Is the juice worth the squeeze"

"Basically being a fucking boy scout"

"He just wasn't strong or firm"

"Woa look at that guy hes huge"

"Shut the fuck up"

Marq · 12-20-2004, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo 345

Girl Next Door lines that never fail to get me to smile

"Beach is for fags man"

"Good night, what are you gay I would have nailed her"

"Damn do I look gay to you"

I'm shocked.

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Originally Posted by Jimbo 345

"Shut the fuck up"

Why? I'd be hard-pressed to find an R rated film that doesn't use a variation of this.

Jimbo 345 · 12-20-2004, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marq

I'm shocked.

Why? I'd be hard-pressed to find an R rated film that doesn't use a variation of this.

True but in The Girl Next Door that line is extra funny. I love it.

08-11-2004, 04:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
JackieSantos_8 Supporting Actor Join Date: Dec 2003	The Girl Next Door Was it me, or did this movie remind you alot of 80's teen movies? I loved it, I thought it was funny and totally brought me back to the times when I was in highschool. I am curious to see what the unrated version will bring us. I mean I know there are a bunch of deleted scenes, but I guess we will find out soon enough (august 24th) I love that we can pre-order!. What other movies has Emile Hirsch been in?

12-07-2004, 09:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
manigrasso Forum Sage Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NJ	Early in the movie, I think when Emile Hirsch first sees Elisha Cuthbert, the music being used is so Tangerine Dream-y, it had to have been meant to be a Risky Business homage. As was most of the movie. Anyway, I found the entire movie oddly joyless. Hirsch was passable, but bland. The situations he was put in were interesting (or were supposed to be), but he himself never was. He never brought anything to the role. I understand the idea that porn hottie next door might want/need someone normal, but "normal" and "boring" are not mutually exclusive terms. And the same was true for her. Aside from being ridiculously hot, there was nothing about Cuthbert that was so awesome I could imagine an honor roll student chucking it all for her. But of course that's part of the point, isn't it? The idea is not that Hirsch's character was in love, but in flux. Stuck on a path where he was not allowed to deviate, lest his whole future get fucked up, and needing something that wasn't that path to focus some of his energies on. He could have discovered stamp collecting or ham radio instead of a hot next door neighbor, and though there would've been considerably less eye candy, the script would have made just as much sense. Maybe I'm just showing my age (I did feel a bit like a Chester watching it), but even the more comic exploits in the script felt like they were taking themselves seriously. And maybe I'm wrong on this, but it also felt like between the movie's production and release, Elisha Cuthbert became much more of a deal, so attempts were made to make more out of her performance. And the final conflict between Hirsch and Olyphant was so ridiculous. As much as I tried in vain to suspend my disbelief for the rest of the plot, here's what I got out of the final conflict. Olyphant: You stole my best stars & ripped off my ideas, now I'm gonna destroy you. Hirsch: Actually, I didn't steal your idea. I made it better. Olyphant: Awwwww, ya got me! Good on ya, mate! Good luck in all your future endeavors! Seems to me that anyone as bitter & jaded as Olyphant's character still would've beat the shit out of Hirsch on principle: Maybe you didn't steal my idea but now my idea can't be used, AND you still stole my best stars, so I'm going to fucking kill you. Not as upbeat, but it makes more sense to me. And, if it needs to be said...no Cuthbert nudity? bad movie! BAAAD! Sorry I can't join in on anyone else's enthusiasm. __________________ manigrasso I used to have a little cropped mustache and wear brown shirts with swastika armbands. Then I read about this guy named "Hitler." Man, was my face red! No wonder why Inga was the only girl who'd go to Prom with me!

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12-07-2004, 04:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
dvdWarrior Supporting Actor Join Date: Jun 2003	I haven't had the opportunity to see The Girl Next Door yet, but in my opinion, The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys andThe Emperor's Club are both outstanding films.

12-13-2004, 01:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jimbo 345 Banned Join Date: Jun 2004	The Girl Next Door is a great movie. It is downright hilarious, emotionally moving, and thanks to Elisha Cuthbert sexy as hell. My DVD came with a free poster of her. What I choose to do with it id rather not say.

12-15-2004, 07:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bantam Actor Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chocolate City	I agree, it was a great movie and it reminded me more of John Hughes' work than a lot of teen films of the 90's. The scene at the begining in the gym is hilarious.

12-20-2004, 08:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jimbo 345 Banned Join Date: Jun 2004	Girl Next Door lines that never fail to get me to smile "Beach is for fags man" "So did you bang her" "Dude what the fuck" "Ah ah the whole package" "Whats the craziest thing you've done lately" "Good night, what are you gay I would have nailed her" "Dude Im kind of uncomfertable watching this with you" "Dude learn to like it" "Im all wet can I come it" "Dude" "I know" "Take her to a hotel room and bang her like a beast" "God damit mate I swear to God if you don't fuck her I'll kill myself. Please, please Matt fuck her for me. For me" "Do you want to fuck me" "Fuck Im good, how do I get these ideas its like a gift its like I can't control it" "I am I really am" "Directers these punks aint directers there in high school you idiot" "Wait up dude" "Fuck you dude" "That fucking bitch can't just run off cause she don't want to fuck on film anymore" "Stay in school" "Now were really think outside the box now. How far are you willing to go, how much do you really care about her" "Damn do I look gay to you" "Is the juice worth the squeeze" "Basically being a fucking boy scout" "He just wasn't strong or firm" "Woa look at that guy hes huge" "Shut the fuck up"