Nudity in film. - Page 6

Iguana Man · 03-07-2006, 10:19 PM

I'll get the 4th thru 10th round and then we can watch me use my kickstand!

It's funny watching me fall down and go boom!

Dilmo · 03-07-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by piratehunter

Absolutely, but the 2nd one is on me and the 3rd is on Dilmo.

-PH

Hey! Instead of sloppy seconds, I get sloppy thirds!

Dilmo · 03-07-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

I'll get the 4th thru 10th round and then we can watch me use my kickstand!

It's funny watching me fall down and go boom!

Now that is great!

**Pirate** · 03-07-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

I'll get the 4th thru 10th round and then we can watch me use my kickstand!

It's funny watching me fall down and go boom!

Lets stay on topic...will you be nude?

-PH

Dilmo · 03-07-2006, 11:06 PM

To end this with pics, name five actresses you would like to see nude. If I can't supply links, I direct you to the films.

PS: I'll try!

Iguana Man · 03-07-2006, 11:08 PM

Ok...I think it sucks that some actresses have to turn down roles because they won't get nude. I'm a pimply faced hormonal teen and all I want to do is see the hot actress babes get naked.

I'm a simple man with simple needs.

Seriously. Is nudity needed? I guess not. Is it needed by me? Well not all the time but....yes, I like it.

More from JSP later! Burp!

tomdkat · 03-07-2006, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

Seriously. Is nudity needed? I guess not.

Sometimes I think it IS needed, but the question is when and how. Feels like we're going back to page #1 of this thread.

Peace...

***Wirehed*** · 03-07-2006, 11:28 PM

So elwood, basically you think anytime there's nudity it's probable that it was exploitive in one way or another?

It seems to me that your personal morality is getting in the way of this discussion, I think Moogle has expressed his points and you can't see past your own opinion of the situation to understand what he's saying.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having a strong moral opinion, that's great, but you seem to be applying it to other people, and there you can run into trouble.

Anyway, for the record I agree with Moogle and what he's trying to say (or rather, has said).

Dilmo · 03-07-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tomdkat

Sometimes I think it IS needed, but the question is when and how. Feels like we're going back to page #1 of this thread.

Peace...

Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.

tomdkat · 03-07-2006, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mighty mint

An off-topic question of clarification for Tom and Pirate - When you say Sin City is classy do you mean classy or stylish? I would agree that it carries off it's style with flair but I always consisdered the term "classy" to refer to the content of the film with its intellectual side and how it shows on screen. I think that one film with a great blend of class AND style would be Se7en.

Sorry I missed this post, MM. I can see how classy can refer to the content of the film but I think it can also apply to how content is presented. The film could have had style, but in a cheesy way. I don't think this was the case with Sin City, hence it being a "classy", well done film. At least pirate and I think of it that way.

Peace...

tomdkat · 03-07-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mighty mint

I have read the recent posts between Elmwood and Moogle and I really have a hard time seeing how both of you are missing each other...I have read and reread and it is as if you both just can't recognize the other persons perspective. What I understand is this (I am probably wrong but here it goes) In no way is Moogle objectifying women or trying to degrade them...he was just making a point concerning meeting the need for nudity in a film if it was required to make it more realistic. Elmwood was just making the point that it seems like women are being sexually objectified because of the numerous roles that "require" the female nudity.

Man, Elwood and Moogle really got into it, didn't they.

I haven't read their posts (now I know how you guys feel when I get into a long winded debate with someone

) but I trust this summary is basically accurate. I think both Elwood and Moogle are right. I think nudity for the pure sake of nudity does objectify women but that's not the same as saying any instance of a nude woman objectifies her. I'm all for nudity if it's relevant to the story and presented in an appropriate way. If the director chooses to make the nudity more gratuitous, that's something for the actor and director to work out and hopefully they can work something out that preserves the integrity of the story while not putting the actor in an awkward position.

Ultimately, the actor has a choice. If the choice the actor makes hinders his/her career, that's too bad but the way it is.

Peace...

Dilmo · 03-07-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tomdkat

Man, Elwood and Moogle really got into it, didn't they.

I haven't read their posts (now I know how you guys feel when I get into a long winded debate with someone

) but I trust this summary is basically accurate. I think both Elwood and Moogle are right. I think nudity for the pure sake of nudity does objectify women but that's not the same as saying any instance of a nude woman objectifies her. I'm all for nudity if it's relevant to the story and presented in an appropriate way. If the director chooses to make the nudity more gratuitous, that's something for the actor and director to work out and hopefully they can work something out that preserves the integrity of the story while not putting the actor in an awkward position.

Ultimately, the actor has a choice. If the choice the actor makes hinders his/her career, that's too bad but the way it is.

Peace...

I was hoping for more intellectual background history, but it's time to call it quits.

tomdkat · 03-07-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilmo

I was hoping for more intellectual background history, but it's time to call it quits.

You wanted more background history from me????

Peace...

Dilmo · 03-07-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tomdkat

You wanted more background history from me????

Peace...

I have my Jergen's ready. Don't let me down.

Iguana Man · 03-08-2006, 12:00 AM

Do actors get a script and at least a general knowledge of what the film entails prior to auditioning?

I know, most here probably think the answer is obvious but please shed some light on this for me.

Thanks.

**Pirate** · 03-08-2006, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

Do actors get a script and at least a general knowledge of what the film entails prior to auditioning?

I know, most here probably think the answer is obvious but please shed some light on this for me.

Thanks.

Not always, but it does happen. It depends on the actor and the filmmakers involved. If a director really wanted a certain actor, they might send them the script to study for their audition. Some other directors or casting agents might want the actors to do it cold.

-PH

Dilmo · 03-08-2006, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

Do actors get a script and at least a general knowledge of what the film entails prior to auditioning?

I know, most here probably think the answer is obvious but please shed some light on this for me.

Thanks.

Yes, yes, yes. Their agents go over it with a fine tooth comb. What more?

Iguana Man · 03-08-2006, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by piratehunter

Not always, but it does happen. It depends on the actor and the filmmakers involved.

-PH

Well then, shouldn't this factoid have something to do with the 'bigger' question posed?

Dilmo · 03-08-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by piratehunter

Not always, but it does happen. It depends on the actor and the filmmakers involved. If a director really wanted a certain actor, they might send them the script to study for their audition. Some other directors or casting agents might want the actors to do it cold.

-PH

No, no, no. Name an actor without an agent that looks over them?

**Pirate** · 03-08-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

Well then, shouldn't this factoid have something to do with the 'bigger' question posed?

Well, if the actor sees that there is nudity in the script and is "ok" with it, then that's that. The actor may also want to discuss the nudity with the director to see what his "vision" of the film is and how the nude scene(s) fit.

-PH

**Pirate** · 03-08-2006, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dilmo

No, no, no. Name an actor without an agent that looks over them?

I'm speaking more in terms of actors that are called in to do a reading cold. Then they take the script and hand it over to the agents and such.

-PH

Dilmo · 03-08-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

Well then, shouldn't this factoid have something to do with the 'bigger' question posed?

This is why this thread is getting so tiresome. Each actor knows IN ADVANCE what the role requires. They have a "no nudity clause". Why can't people understand that?

**Pirate** · 03-08-2006, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dilmo

This is why this thread is getting so tiresome. Each actor knows IN ADVANCE what the role requires. They have a "no nudity clause". Why can't people understand that?

We do understand that. Look...2 things.

1. Every actor that has a no nudity clause can choose to do nudity at some point.

2. Not all actors will have read the script before the audition. Think of the many actors that go to an audition that they read about in the paper.

-PH

Dilmo · 03-08-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by piratehunter

We do understand that. Look...2 things.

1. Every actor that has a noe nudity agreement can choose to do nudity at some point.

2. Not all actors will have read the script before the audition. Think of the many actors that go to an audition that they read about in the paper.

-PH

Come on pirate! I am with you on this discussion, but at what point is it ok with you? If the actors are not represented well, then that is a whole other topic. Please, no.

**Pirate** · 03-08-2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dilmo

Come on pirate! I am with you on this discussion, but at what point is it ok with you?

Is what ok with me? The nudity? Sorry, you lost me.

-PH

tomdkat · 03-08-2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dilmo

No, no, no. Name an actor without an agent that looks over them?

I guess there would be several unknowns trying to become known who would fall into that category.

Peace...

Dilmo · 03-08-2006, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by piratehunter

Is what ok with me? The nudity? Sorry, you lost me.

-PH

EVERY actor or actress has a well paid agent. Trust me me, there are NO surprises brought to the table. The old days, maybe. Now, now way. Law suits are too costly. As most of America was dumb in their electorial vote, the "stars" are well pretected.

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Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	I'll get the 4th thru 10th round and then we can watch me use my kickstand! It's funny watching me fall down and go boom! __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

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Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	Ok...I think it sucks that some actresses have to turn down roles because they won't get nude. I'm a pimply faced hormonal teen and all I want to do is see the hot actress babes get naked. I'm a simple man with simple needs. Seriously. Is nudity needed? I guess not. Is it needed by me? Well not all the time but....yes, I like it. More from JSP later! Burp! __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

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*Wirehed* Producer/Admin NSFW Off 'the list' Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacto, Ca --Near Galt, home of LeVar Burton	So elwood, basically you think anytime there's nudity it's probable that it was exploitive in one way or another? It seems to me that your personal morality is getting in the way of this discussion, I think Moogle has expressed his points and you can't see past your own opinion of the situation to understand what he's saying. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a strong moral opinion, that's great, but you seem to be applying it to other people, and there you can run into trouble. Anyway, for the record I agree with Moogle and what he's trying to say (or rather, has said). __________________ The Order of the Zombie. The world's greatest zombie culture website. "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wagn'nagl dominos" In his house in R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits for the pizza delivery guy.

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Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	Do actors get a script and at least a general knowledge of what the film entails prior to auditioning? I know, most here probably think the answer is obvious but please shed some light on this for me. Thanks. __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

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Dilmo Suspended Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New Braunfels, Texas. Far From Crawford!	To end this with pics, name five actresses you would like to see nude. If I can't supply links, I direct you to the films. PS: I'll try!