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Nuked for Morbid
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Savannah,GA
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How else are they supposed to get rid of the software?
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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Isn't Wii Play intended as an incentive to buy a second controller? Or was the game actually sold without a controller first before they bundled it?
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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May NPD numbers:
TOP-SELLING HARDWARE - MAY 2008 Wii--675,100 Nintendo DS--452,600 PlayStation 3--208,700 Xbox 360--186,600 PlayStation Portable--182,300 TOP-SELLING SOFTWARE - MAY 2008 Title / Publisher / Units 1) Grand Theft Auto IV (X360) / Take-Two / 871,300 2) Mario Kart Wii w/ Wheel (WII) / Nintendo / 787,400 3) Wii Fit w/ Balance Board (WII) / Nintendo / 687,700 4) Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3) / Take-Two / 442,900 5) Wii Play w/ Remote (WII) / Nintendo / 294,600 6) Super Smash Bros. Brawl (WII) / Nintendo / 171,100 7) Iron Man (PS2) / Sega / 130,600 8) Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock w/ Guitar (WII) / Activision / 116,800 9) Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness (DS) / Nintendo / 107,000 10) Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time (DS) / Nintendo / 102,000 Source: NPD: GTAIV defends sales throne - Xbox 360 News at GameSpot
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#205 (permalink) |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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As a gamer I'm starting to get a little concerned about the Wii's continued success.
At first I dismissed its enormous sales figures as just a passing fad. Obviously I was wrong on that one. Then I figured it didn't much matter how many consoles it moved when the game sales weren't there, since without game sales the Wii wouldn't have the power to alter what type of games are made. That may soon change. Five of the top ten games this month are on the Wii, totalling two million games vs. its nearest competitor: the 360's 800k. On top of that, the Wii sold 3.3 times as many consoles as the PS3, its nearest competitor if you don't count the DS - which outsold the PS3 with a margin of 2:1. Although that's not a fair comparison. Anyway, the point is that I really don't want gaming to go in the direction of the Wii. Yet a few more months of this and that's where we're headed. KM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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And here's an article related to the above May NPD numbers:
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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It's Good to Play Together
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NJ, USA
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Microsoft needs to get their shit together. The Arcade should be $249, the Premium $299, Elite $379. Their pricing right now outright sucks!
They also need to improve quality of customer support & the repair center. Too many idiots have been staffed since the RROD problem (all India outfarmed I believe) and stories of people returning 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc consoles to be repaired means the repair center isn't doing their job when they receive the console. Odds are they are massively overwhelmed, but they need to spend the money to rectify that unless they want to keep losing customers to Nintendo! The upcoming DRM fix is a good step in the right direction, but they need to get those 65nm redesigned ATI chips out SOON!
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The Wii doesn't scare me TOO much because from what I understand many of them are not really used by gamers. They're being bought for offices, senior centers, bowling alleys and the like... there's a bar near here that has Wii Sports nights.
Combine that knowlede with the fact that "hardcore" games on the system sell like crap... like No More Heroes... and you can see why the VAST majority of big releases are still for the "2nd and 3rd place" consoles. Basically the Wii is not a game system, it's a mass market toy that also plays some games for real gamers. Less than half its systems are being used on a weekly basis to play real video games. Good to see the PS3 rising more and more... it really is a great system. Hopefully BOTH systems, the 360 and PS3, get a price cut for Christmas which, when partnered with MGS4, GTA4 and GoW2, will lead to massive sales. Does Wii even have a game for this Christmas? |
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It's Good to Play Together
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NJ, USA
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I think the PS3 will still be too expensive for massive sales especially with the gas prices. 360 if it drops to 249 for a NICE bundle - or Arcade for 199 - has a shot, though, IMO.
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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Cause if Wii games keep taking half of the top 10, you can bet it will have some kind of impact on the types of games devs choose to make. KM
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It's Good to Play Together
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NJ, USA
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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Obviously I'm exaggerating the danger. I don't think all devs will suddenly jump ship and solely develop for the Wii, partly because of Ruined's point above. But if the current set of NPD numbers becomes a trend, I do think devs will dedicate resources away from the kinds of games I enjoy towards the kinds of games selling in droves on the Wii. And to repeat: I realize I am probably overrecting and jumping the gun. Next month we'll probably be back to the Wii ruling the hardware charts and the 360/PS3 ruling the software charts. The above few posts are mostly what-if scenarios. But to my mind a pretty scary what-if... KM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I think the success of smaller mini-game collections is only relative to their budgets though... I read something about "Carnival Games" making money, but it only sold like 200,000 copies... Call of Duty 4 in comparison sold 10 million.
There might be smaller developers more enticed to go the Wii route, rather than making something like... Turning Point Fall of Liberty... but that's not a huge loss. I think a lot of smaller devs will stick to mature games anyway though, just out of passion for the medium. I think the main worry is that if the Wii continues to dominate and wins the generation, Microsoft and Sony might modify their next consoles to be more Wii-like. If that means control-wise, I could deal. If it means family focus, it would suck. If it means no hardware advancement, it would REALLY suck. |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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1. That's what a trend is. Something that is going in a general direction. So to say something "isn't a trend, its been going on for a long time" is an oxymoron. 2. While the Wii has been doing alright software wise, this is the first time it's had five entries in the top ten. And the first time it's outsold the nearest competition by as much as it did. The only other month it's come close to this is when Smash Bros. launched. Then it outsold it's nearest competitor by a 2:1 margin, this time it was 3:1. Most months it is not even in the lead. So yeah, I agree with you that it isn't a trend. At least not a long-running trend. My concerns are simply centered around the "what-if" scenario of it becoming a long-running trend. KM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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Devs are in business to make money. If every month start yielding numbers like that, do you seriously think they wouldn't be looking to expand their production of Wii games? To me the answer to that is simple, and the real question is: would they take resources away from their PS3/Xbox productions in order to focus on the Wii, or would they expand to allow for additional Wii developments? Then there's also Ruined's comment about 1st vs. 3rd party games. It's a very valid point and one I hope devs are keeping in mind. Quote:
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Canada
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2. The Wii has been kicking all consoles asses in sales sinse inception. |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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If you have numbers to contradict that, I'm all ears. KM
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#223 (permalink) |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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Mostly I'm just making a point and don't really think the situation is as dire as I'm making it out to seem. Although I do think there's cause for concern and that the next couple of years will be pretty interesting indeed, but the end of "mature" games (for lack of a better word) is long ways off, if it ever comes.KM
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#224 (permalink) |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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June 2008 NPD numbers:
HARDWARE Nintendo DS 783,000 Nintendo Wii 666,700 PlayStation 3 405,500 PSP 337,400 Xbox 360 219,800 PlayStation 2 188,800 SOFTWARE 1 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3) 774,600* 2 Guitar Hero On Tour (DS) 422,300 3 Ninja Gaiden II (360) 372,700 3 Wii Fit (Wii) 372,700 5 Wii Play (Wii) 359,100 6 Battlefield Bad Company (360) 346,800 7 Mario Kart Wii (Wii) 322,400 8 LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (Wii) 294,500 9 LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (DS) 267,800 10 LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventure (PS2) 260,300 Source: MGS4 drives PS3 sales, but DS and Wii still in lead // News // GamesIndustry.biz Metal Gear Solid 4 tops US June sales // News // GamesIndustry.biz
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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Random thoughts:
- Not too surprising to see MGS4 in the lead, as well as the boost it gave to the PS3. It'll be interesting to see if the console will remain high next month or if it'll go down to regular levels. - The Wii's "only" got 4 out of 10 software titles, but that's still twice as many as its nearest competitor: Xbox 360 - The 360 keeps sinking lower and lower. Only 40k units more than the PS2... KM
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