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I'm not saying their decision didn't work well for them. But they haven't made significant upgrades to the graphics since the Gamecube so by the time they're ready for the next console they'll be forced to upgrade. Even kids at some point will think the games will start looking crappy as they get use to more advances on other systems.
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Join Date: May 2001
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It's been just over a year since I first did the comparison where I list the number of titles scoring 80+ and 90+ on each console.
For a recap, these were the figures on August 23rd, 2007: Games Rated 90+ 360: 7 PS3: 1 Wii: 2 Games Rated 80+ 360: 54 PS3: 14 Wii: 7 Today they are: Games Rated 90+ 360: 12 PS3: 5 Wii: 5 Games Rated 80+ 360: 87 PS3: 45 Wii: 18 Some stats for the past year: - The 360 saw 5 new 90+ games, the PS3 saw 4 and the Wii 3. - The 360 saw 33 new 80+ games, the PS3 saw 31 and the Wii 13. - In terms of total number of well reviewed games, the PS3 is almost where the 360 was at this point in its lifetime (i.e. a year ago) while the Wii is completely left in both console's dust. Some stats since last time (4.5 months ago) I did this: - The 360 saw 3 new 90+ games, the PS3 saw 2 and the Wii 1. - The 360 saw 20 new 80+ games, the PS3 saw 12 and the Wii 5. Note: Xbox Live Arcade, Virtual Console or expansion packs are not included in these stats.
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NJ, USA
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The new August 2008 NPD numbers also show that PS3 hardware sales are back in last place and XBOX 360 continues to outsell PS3 in games at over a 2:1 ratio. My guess is that this trend will continue with the September 360 price cuts.
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Join Date: May 2001
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August 2008 NPD Numbers:
Software 1. Madden NFL 09 (360): 1,000,000 2. Madden NFL 09 (PS3): 643,000 3. Madden NFL 09 (PS2): 424,500 4. Wii Fit (Wii): 394,900 5. Mario Kart Wii (Wii): 328,700 6. Wii Play (Wii): 200,200 7. Soulcalibur IV (360): 174,000 8. Too Human (360): 168,200 9. Madden NFL 09 (Wii): 115,800 10. Guitar Hero: On Tour (DS): 111,200 Hardware 1. Nintendo DS: 518,300 2. Nintendo Wii: 453,000 3. PlayStation Portable: 253,000 4. Xbox 360: 195,200 5. PlayStation 3: 185,400 6. PlayStation 2: 144,100 Sources: NPD: August software sales up 13% in the US // News NPD: Nintendo DS leads US hardware sales // News
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Join Date: May 2001
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September 2008 NPD numbers:
Hardware 1. Wii: 687,000 2. DS: 536,800 3. Xbox 360: 347,200 4. PSP: 238,100 5. PS3: 232,400 6. PS2: 173,500 Software 1. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed - Xbox 360 – 610K 2. Wii Fit w/ Balance Board - Wii – 518K 3. Rock Band 2 - Xbox 360 – 363K 4. Mario Kart w/ wheel - Wii – 353K 5. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed - PS3 – 325K 6. Mercenaries 2: World in Flames - Xbox 360 – 297K 7. Wii Play w/ remote - Wii – 243K 8. Madden NFL 09 - Xbox 360 – 224K 9. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed - Wii – 223K 10. Madden NFL 09 - PS2 – 158K Source: September NPD: $1.27b in sales, but it's no Halo 3 launch - Joystiq
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Rock Band 2 and the price drop obviously spurred that jump. Wouldn't be surprised to see another one with Gears of War 2 next month.
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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If Sony were smart enough to do a price drop at the same time as Little Big Planet's release, they would see a huge bump as well. Instead, we've got a $400 maching battling a $200 machine going into Christmas, both with huge exclusives.
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Location: NJ, USA
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Mandatory Blu-ray Disc drive, Mandatory Hard Drive, Competition with standalone BD players All of these reasons indicate why Sony can't drop the price of PS3 below $400 at this point without both incurring huge losses and on top of that pissing off BD CE partners. Meanwhile Microsoft and Nintendo will reap the benefits of their folly. Quote:
LittleBigPlanet might help a bit with the hardcore gamer base in late oct/early nov, but IMO it is too strange for casual gamers to play and hence probably will not spike system sales that much.
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Also: let's not forget Sony won the two months before the price drop on 360, and I didn't see you saying anything then ![]() I think LBP has a great chance to rope people in, that game is hyped to hell and back. I don't think it will give Sony a victory this Christmas though, since their hardware is $200 more. |
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Location: NJ, USA
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Top 10 sep 2008 software: 360: 1.5 million games sold Wii: 1.3 million games sold PS3: 0.3 million games sold If you were a developer/publisher, which platform would you want to sell your games on? As I stated before, clearly PS3 was not competitive with its rivals in Sep. Last place in hardware and by FAR last place in software.
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NJ, USA
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TOP-SELLING HARDWARE - OCTOBER 2008
Wii--803,000 Xbox 360--371,000 PlayStation 3--190,000 TOP-SELLING SOFTWARE - OCTOBER 2008 Title / Publisher / Units* 1) Fable II (Xbox 360) / Microsoft / 790,000 2) Wii Fit w/ Balance Board (WII) / Nintendo / 487,000 3) Fallout 3 (Xbox 360) / Bethesda Softworks / 375,000 4) Mario Kart Wii w/ Wheel (WII) / Nintendo / 290,000 5) Wii Play w/ Remote (WII) / Nintendo / 282,000 6) Saints Row 2 (Xbox 360) / THQ / 270,000 7) SOCOM: US Navy SEALs Confrontation (PS3) / Sony / 231,000 8) Little Big Planet (PS3) / Sony / 215,000 9) NBA 2K9 (360) / Take-Two Interactive / 202,000 10) Dead Space (360) / Electronic Arts / 193,000 Same old story. Wii wins hardware sales, 360 wins software sales, PS3 loses on both fronts. I think its pretty safe to say at this point in the nextgen wars that Nintendo wins hardware sales this generation, Microsoft wins software sales, and Sony overall loses both battles. I don't see anything major happening for the 3 of them that will change things, and any advantage Blu-ray gave PS3 is now eradicated with Blu-ray players available at half the price of PS3; you can buy both a 360 or Wii and a standalone Blu-ray player for the same price as a PS3. Also as I predicted LBP sold worse than expected, selling less copies in the month of October than Fable 2 did in one day (315k on release).
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Regardless, it still greatly underperformed for a title that was positioned as PS3's big hit for the fall/winter. How do you think it will fair against Gears of War 2 this month, which sold over 2 million copies on its release date? Resistance 2 also looks like it arrived with subpar sales.
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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I'm still not quite sure how you can validate a game's success or failure based on 4 days of sales data, especially considering it isn't an established franchise.
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American Weekly Chart | VG Chartz.com - Video Game Charts - Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Wii, PS3, Xbox360, DS, PSP, PC LittleBigPlanet is currently fighting tooth and nail against Kung Fu Panda, Lego Indy, and Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm ![]() Note that VGChartz's estimates were nearly dead-on the actual NPD numbers for Oct: NPD Reports USA Videogame Sales for October 2008 | VG Chartz.com - Video Game Charts - Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Wii, PS3, Xbox360, DS, PSP, PC
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Also, just because I'm curious...are you suggesting a game is or isn't good, based on its sales numbers?
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Ruined is right, LBP underperformed... I expected a Gears-like first week surge.
I think the holiday season is so crowded things like LBP get lost in the shuffle. Hopefully it will be one of those titles that sells consistently over time, rather than a lot at once and then nothing. Ruined probably also isn't wrong that Nintendo winning hardware and the 360 winning software (in america) is probably a certainty at this point. As hinted at by videoworx though, this means nothing when it comes to who has the better hardware, software, etc.. Personally I'm damn close to giving PC gaming one... more... try... |
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Join Date: May 2001
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I think maybe we'll see that Gears-like surge when Killzone 2 comes out. At least if Penny Arcade's glowing praise for the beta is any indication:
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Main problem is that Killzone 2 doesn't come out until Feb 2009. Which misses this holiday season and will probably be forgotten by next one - and even if its not, it has to compete with all of the rest of the 2009 games.
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Join Date: May 2001
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November 2008 NPD
Hardware Wii - 2.04 million DS - 1.57 million Xbox 360 - 836,000 PSP - 421,000 PlayStation 3 - 378,000 PlayStation 2 - 206,000 Software 1 Gears of War 2 - Xbox 360 - 1.56m 2 Call of Duty: World At War - Xbox 360 - 1.41m 3 Wii Play - Wii - 796,000 4 Wii Fit - Wii - 697,000 5 Mario Kart - Wii - 637,00 6 Call of Duty: World At War - PS3 - 597,000 7 Guitar Hero: World Tour - Wii - 475,000 8 Left 4 Dead - Xbox 360 - 410,000 9 Resistance 2 - PlayStation 3 - 385,000 10 Wii Music - Wii - 297,000 Total Software Xbox 360: 3.38 M Wii: 2.90 M PS3: 0.98 M Sources: Gears 2, CoD 5 lead November software sales // News Wii sells over 2m units in $3bn November // News
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Join Date: May 2001
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The Loft and Invelos are the only ones I visit with any regularity. Once in a blue moon I hit up XMG. Why?
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Ruined. Do you get off at seeing PS3 sales die? Or are you just a teenager who has hard-core fanboyism that he can't get rid of? I'm actually seriously asking this. You seem to post like a bitter ex-boyfriend trying to trash the girlfriend who dumped him.
I was trying to decide between getting a PS3 or an X-Box 360. I went with a PS3 because I love the MGS series of games and am also a HUGE baseball fan. The baseball games on the 360 are a complete and utter joke. MLB The Show is simply phenomenal so that was a huge decision for me. I was also looking to get a Blu-Ray player, and after hearing about how solid a Blu-Ray player the PS3 is and how insanely quickly it loads movies, I was sold. I also didn't need to find extra room to fit a Blu-Ray player and a game console in my living room. (Since if I got a 360 I'd need to dedicate a 4'x4' air-conditioned space to prevent it from overheating). The final straw for me against buying a 360 is the infamous RRoD. I am not about to go without a console for weeks at a time just because the manufacturer used ultra cheap parts to save a few bucks. It's not a matter of IF your 360 will die. It's a matter of WHEN it will die. I seriously wonder how many of those 360 sales are new sales, and how many are second purchases by people who either aren't willing to send their machine in for repair (since they had opened it up, or tried to do something with it and know that MS won't repair it), or had their warranty expire and didn't want to pay the $100 plus for it. I know you're passionate about you 360 and MS Stock, but it's really getting obnoxious.
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Ruined just likes to stir things up around here a little bit.
![]() Looking at the numbers above it seems Nintendo as a company is still the most successful game console manufacturer ever. Take the #'s above & do the $math$ Wii = Cheapest 360 = Second Cheapest PS3 = Third Cheapest No surprise people are just cheap. ![]() I own all 3 next gen systems & my Wii system just collects dust. My PS3 gets the most use of the 3 mainly because of Blu-Ray. ..360 a close second for games. (RB & GH) |
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Join Date: May 2001
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December 2008 NPD Stats
Hardware Nintendo DS - 3.04 million Wii - 2.15 million Xbox 360 - 1.44 million PSP - 1.02 million PlayStation 3 - 726K PlayStation 2 - 410K Software 1. Wii Play (Wii) - 1.46 million 2. Call of Duty: World at War (Xbox 360) - 1.33 million 3. Wii Fit (Wii) - 999,000 4. Mario Kart Wii (Wii) - 979,000 5. Guitar Hero: World Tour (Wii) - 850,000 6. Gears of War 2 (Xbox 360) - 745,000 7. Left 4 Dead (Xbox 360) - 629,000 8. Mario Kart DS (DS) - 540,000 9. Call of Duty: World at War (PS3) - 533,000 10. Animal Crossing: City Folk (Wii) - 497,000 Source: Gamasutra - NPD: December Sales Set $5B Record, Industry Grows 9%
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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I wonder why X-box doesn't have a portable console option? I seem to sense that Sony, while seriously underperforming on the ps3 front, still remains competitive with xbox if you total up all their console sales together. On the software side, it doesn't seem like Sony is making any headway. Losing exclusives has really turned the ps3 into a too expensive option. With lower prices on the bd side of manufacturing, I wonder how much longer the ps3 can remain at the higher markup price? They need more consoles to sell for them to make any headway on the software side.
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Join Date: May 2001
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Okay, so in an effort to support Lex's mission, here's all the NPD stats since December 2008, which is when I last posted them.
January 2009 Hardware Nintendo Wii – 679,200 Nintendo DS - 510,800 Xbox 360 – 309,000 PS3 – 203,200 PlayStation Portable - 172,300 PS2 – 101,200 Software 1. Wii Fit w/Balance Board - Wii - 777,000 2. Play w/ Wii Remote - Wii - 415,000 3. Mario Kart - Wii - 292,000 4. Left 4 Dead- Xbox 360 - 243,000 5. Call of Duty: World at War - Xbox 360 - 235,000 6. Skate 2 - Xbox 360 - 199,000 7. Guitar Hero World Tour - Wii – 155,000 8. New Super Mario Bros - DS - 135,000 9. Mario Kart - DS - 132,000 10. Lord of the Rings: Conquest - PS3 - 113,000 Source: January 2009 NPD: Nintendo at the Top of All Charts - Xbox February 2009 Wii 753K Nintendo DS 588K Xbox 360 391K PlayStation 3 276K PSP 199K PlayStation 2 131K Wii Fit w/ Balance Board (WII) 644K Street Fighter IV (360) 446K Street Fighter IV (PS3) 403K Wii Play w/ Remote (WII) 386K Killzone 2 (PS3) 323K Wii Mario Kart (WII) 263K Call of Duty: World at War (360) 193K Mario Kart DS (NDS) 145K New Super Mario Bros (NDS) 144K Guitar Hero World Tour (WII) 136K Source: NPD Sales Results for February 2009 - NeoGAF March 2009 NPD Hardware 1. Wii - 601,000 2. DS - 563,000 3. Xbox 360 - 330,000 4. PS3 - 218,000 5. PSP - 168,000 6. PS2 - 112,000 Software 1. Resident Evil 5 (Xbox 360) - 938K 2. Pokemon Platinum (DS) - 805K 3. Halo Wars (Xbox 360) - 639K 4. Resident Evil 5 (PS3) - 585K 5. Wii Fit w/ Balance Board (Wii) - 541K 6. MLB '09: The Show (PS3) - 305K 7. Killzone 2 - (PS3) - 296K 8. Wii Play w/ Remote (Wii) - 281K 9. Mario Kart w/ Wheel (Wii) - 278K 10. MLB 2K9 (Xbox 360) - 205K Software Totals by Platform 1. Xbox 360 - 1.78M 2. PS3 - 1.19M 3. Wii - 1.10M 4. DS - 0.80M Source: Gamasutra - News - NPD: U.S. Game Industry Sales Slide 17 Percent April 2009 NPD Hardware 1. DS/DSi - 1,040,000 2. Wii - 340,000 3. Xbox 360 - 175,000 4. PS2 - 172,000 5. PS3 - 127,000 6. PSP - 116,000 Software Wii Fit (Wii) - 471K Pokemon Platinum (DS) - 433K Mario Kart (Wii) - 210K Wii Play (Wii) - 170K The Godfather II (360) - 155K Resident Evil 5 (360) - 122K New Super Mario Bros (DS) - 119K Mario Kart (DS) - 112K Guitar Hero Aerosmith (360) - 110K The Godfather II (PS3) - 91K Software Totals by Platform 1. Wii - 851K 2. DS - 664K 3. Xbox 360 - 387K 4. PS3 - 91K Source: April NPD: DS breaks a million, PS2 beats PS3 May 2009 NPD Hardware Nintendo DS - 633.5K Wii - 289.5K Xbox 360 - 175K PlayStation 3 - 131K PlayStation 2 - 117K PSP - 100.4K Software UFC 2009 UNDISPUTED - Xbox 360 - 679.6K Wii FIT - Wii - 352.8K EA SPORTS ACTIVE BUNDLE - Wii - 345.8K UFC 2009 UNDISPUTED - PS3 - 334.4K INFAMOUS - PS3 - 175.9K POKEMON PLATINUM - NDS - 168.9K MARIO KART W/ WHEEL - Wii - 158.3K PUNCH OUT! - Wii - 156.9K X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE - Xbox 360 - 120.7K Wii PLAY W/ REMOTE - Wii - 109.8K Software by Platform Wii - 1223.6K Xbox 360 - 800.3K PS3 - 510.3K DS - 168.9K Source: May NPD: UFC Game a Smash Hit | GameLife | Wired.com
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That is when Nintendo released the updated DSi unit. I guess they just lumped the DS and DSi into one.
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September 2009 NPD
Hardware Nintendo DS – 524,200 Playstation 3 – 491,800 Wii – 462,800 Xbox 360 – 352,600 PSP – 190,400 Playstation 2 – 146,000 Software Halo 3: ODST (360) – 1,520,000 Wii Sports Resort (Wii) – 442,900 Madden NFL 10 (360) – 289,600 Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story (Wii) – 258,100 The Beatles: Rock Band (360) – 254,000 Madden NFL 10 (PS3) – 246,500 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 (360) – 236,000 Batman: Arkham Asylum (PS3) – 212,500 Guitar Hero 5 (360) – 210,800 The Beatles: Rock Band (Wii) – 208,601 Software by Platform Xbox 360 – 2,510,400 games Wii – 909,601 games Playstation 3 – 459,000 games Comments The Playstation 3 price drop gave it a nice boost on the hardware side, but it’s a little surprising to see it not making much of a dent in the software side. Did people not buy games with the consoles they bought? Odd. Although the same is true for the Nintendo DS month after month. It’s been on top of the hardware sales chart for quite a while now, and when it’s not on top it’s not far from it. Yet it’s very rare to see any Nintendo DS games crack the top 10 of the software sales. Also odd. While the Wii found itself in the unusual number three spot, there’s no doubt that it’s still selling. Much to my surprise and dismay. Here’s to hoping Microsoft and Sony aren’t planning to neuter their next-gen consoles and release Wii-esque abominations of their own. Source for NPD data: NPD September 2009 - Video Game Sales Wiki KM
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