Sierra: PS3 exclusivity would have allowed double the amount of objects.

[Jast3r Rogu3]

Terminal Reality president Mark Randel admitted that Ghostbusters on PS3 has been held back by the fact will also release on 360, saying that the game would have double the amount of objects on screen if it had been PS3-only.

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GTA4 is a great game, but noone can deny it would have been alot better if the game was PS3 exclusive and not held back by the inferior x360 hardware.

[Wilson]

Originally Posted by Jast3r Rogu3

videogaming247 » Blog Archive » Sierra Spring Break 08: PS3 exclusivity would have allowed double the amount of objects on-screen, says Ghostbusters dev


GTA4 is a great game, but noone can deny it would have been alot better if the game was PS3 exclusive and not held back by the inferior x360 hardware.

Who's Noone?

[ganthc]

Queue Ruined's response in 5...4...3...2...

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by ganthc

Queue Ruined's response in 5...4...3...2...

You know its gonna be a good one, too!

Originally Posted by OP Link

VG247: Why choose to lead on the PS3?

Mark Randell : Very simple reason: Ghostbusters is the property of Sony Pictures.

...

MR: We’re running the same game for both platforms but if we made a PS3-only game, for example, you could double the amount of objects on screen that you’re seeing. The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3. We’re keeping the game the same over both platforms so we don’t want to take out any features.

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MR : For example, we’ve reserved one whole processor on the PS3 for Dolby Digital 5.1 sound whereas on the 360 you have part of one processor to do that

'nuff said

Originally Posted by OP

GTA4 is a great game, but noone can deny it would have been alot better if the game was PS3 exclusive and not held back by the inferior x360 hardware.

Rockstar Vice President - Grand Theft Auto IV Delay Partly Due to PS3

[littlebib]

Originally Posted by Jast3r Rogu3

videogaming247 » Blog Archive » Sierra Spring Break 08: PS3 exclusivity would have allowed double the amount of objects on-screen, says Ghostbusters dev


GTA4 is a great game, but noone can deny it would have been alot better if the game was PS3 exclusive and not held back by the inferior x360 hardware.

Can anyone deny that if they were a PS3 exclusive, they'd make a lot less money? Heck, if they thought there would be any market on the Wii, they'd probably have a version there too.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by littlebib

Can anyone deny that if they were a PS3 exclusive, they'd make a lot less money? Heck, if they thought there would be any market on the Wii, they'd probably have a version there too.

Actually a spinoff Ghostbusters game for the Wii where you hold the zapper or whatever its called to catch Slimer would be fun!

[Iguana Man]

I don't get Ruineds response above with the bold. 7 vs. 3, is that BS or what?



And Jastr, how does one game relate to another? What is with you man? Am I reading all this shit wrong? Meh.....

[Astrakan]

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

I don't get Ruineds response above with the bold. 7 vs. 3, is that BS or what?

I'm sure he'll be along shortly to explain it, but I'm guessing it's a lot more complicated than just "7 is more than 3."

KM

[MooglePorn]

The number of physical objects in the world is a very processor-based thing, so this doesn't surprise me... the PS3 has a much better processor. The 360 makes up for it with simpler architecture and RAM and such...

Each console has their strengths, and multiplatform games have to conform to both... no surprise. It's why exclusives (Gears of War, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune) look better than most other games.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

I don't get Ruineds response above with the bold. 7 vs. 3, is that BS or what?

Basically, the PS3 has one big/main processor and six mini-processors. The XBOX 360 has three big processors instead. Both in practice all put together have about the same power. Saying "7 is more than 3" shows a gross misunderstanding of the technology or purposeful misleading of the readers by the Sierra rep being interviewed. The latter is very possible based on one of the very first statement of the interview by the Sierra reps - that the project was lead on PS3 primarily because Ghostbusters is a Sony movie, and hence Sony wanted their console as lead when licensing the game rights. It would not be a surprise if Sierra's PR is skewed towards the PS3 for the same reason.

So, while the PS3 has more processors in number than the XBOX 360, power-wise the PS3 is not significantly more powerful because six of them are mini-processors.

And the funny thing is, the rep then goes on to contradict his 7 vs. 3 statement and claim that they needed to dedicate a whole processor to DD5.1 encoding on the PS3 while only part of a processor is needed for DD5.1 encoding on the XBOX 360. Which demonstrates that the processors on the 360 are more powerful as you only need part of a processor to do the same job instead of needing the entire processor to do it as on PS3 - you can't benefit at all from giving more power to a Dolby Digital encode, either the sound is successfully encoded in DD or it is not successfully encoded in DD5.1, no in-betweens. So what the XBOX 360 only needed to dedicate part of one of its three big cores to do, the PS3 needed to dedicate all of one of its mini-cores to do. Which of course means that each of the individual 360 processors are significantly more powerful than each of the six-mini processors in PS3.

IMO - though both consoles have underpowered processors compared to today's PCs - the processor is the weak point/achilles heel of the PS3, not the strong point. Having three big processors (360) is a lot easier to program and balance for than one big processor and six mini-processors (PS3), and as a result dev time on PS3 is longer and it is more difficult to get the same power out of the PS3 as the 360. This is the primary reason why most multiplatform games run better on 360, why Oblivion PS3 was delayed many months from when originally planned, why Rockstar stated they had to delay GTA4 6 months due to PS3 coding issues, etc - its the PS3's CPU, as its GPU is fairly straightforward. Sounds good on paper, but in practice the PS3 CPU is a game developer's nightmare.

[Jast3r Rogu3]

Originally Posted by littlebib

Can anyone deny that if they were a PS3 exclusive, they'd make a lot less money? Heck, if they thought there would be any market on the Wii, they'd probably have a version there too.

lmao GTA4 is a rated M game, and the wii is for kids.

also GTA is a Sony PS franchise, they have the exclusive bundle and its going to sell by the millions.

alot of people are going to buy a PS3 just for GTA4, i dont think alot of people know about a x360 version or plan to waste money a console that will eventually brake just to play GTA4 on a inferior console.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Jast3r Rogu3

alot of people are going to buy a PS3 just for GTA4, i dont think alot of people know about a x360 version or plan to waste money blah blah blah blah...

That's a nice theory "Jast3r", but currently Grand Theft Auto IV for XBOX 360 is outselling the PS3 version on both:
Gamestop.com/EBGames.com (360 regular version #1, PS3 regular version #2; 360 special edition #6, PS3 special edition did not make the Top Sellers list)
-and-
AMAZON.COM (360 regular version #2, PS3 regular version #4; 360 special edition #6, PS3 special edition #8)

...based on their respective top selling lists. That also held true last night when I checked, it appears to be a trend of a 360 sales lead.

So while we won't have official numbers until next month, it appears the XBOX 360 version is signficantly outselling the PS3 version at the major game retailing websites at this point in time.

[Wilson]

Originally Posted by Jast3r Rogu3

lmao GTA4 is a rated M game, and the wii is for kids.

ummmm, Casual gamers skippy, not kids.

Originally Posted by Jast3r Rogu3

lmao
also GTA is a Sony PS franchise, they have the exclusive bundle and its going to sell by the millions..

Anything less than millions would be a failure on any console.
How is it a PS franchise, every version has been multy platform?

Originally Posted by Jast3r Rogu3

lmao
alot of people are going to buy a PS3 just for GTA4, i dont think alot of people know about a x360 version or plan to waste money a console that will eventually brake just to play GTA4 on a inferior console.

Jilted fanboy much?

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Wilson

ummmm, Casual gamers skippy, not kids.

No joke, Wii is a staple in many senior retirement homes and it continues to sell to adult, previously non-gamers.

Originally Posted by Wilson

How is it a PS franchise, every version has been multy platform?

Not to mention the very first GTA was a DOS-based PC game, forget consoles entirely

[SilentBob]

Originally Posted by Jast3r Rogu3

alot of people are going to buy a PS3 just for GTA4, i dont think alot of people know about a x360 version or plan to waste money a console that will eventually brake just to play GTA4 on a inferior console.

I had a PS3 die on me after 2.5 weeks and my XBox360 is still going strong after 2.5 years. I plan too buy the game for my 360 because of the exclusives that the PS3 version wont have. So enjoy your game on your system and we will enjoy our game on our system

[MooglePorn]

GTA was a PC series for a long time... then with GTA3 it became a PS series... now it's multiplatform, or arguably even an Xbox series, based on the sales and exclusive content.

These things change, like Final Fantasy from Nintendo to Sony.

I bought GTA4 for the 360 because I did not want to be deprived the downloadable episodes... I assume most others did as well (if not for Live and achievements). That's why MS made the deal for the content.

[Derb]

SEGA is better than Nintendo! Nah, nah, nah, nah, ...nah

[Wirehed]

3do Ftw!!!

[Derb]

Ruined,

Other than a PC, you will eventually have to accept the knowledge that a better game console will be released in the future. The 360 is good for now, but something from another company will eventually release a console which will knock it on its ass. This is a trend which has been happening sinse Atari.

[Wirehed]

Originally Posted by Derb

Ruined,

Other than a PC, you will eventually have to accept the knowledge that a better game console will be released in the future. The 360 is good for now, but something from another company will eventually release a console which will knock it on its ass. This is a trend which has been happening sinse Atari.

See, I don't get this. You guys complain about Ruined posting with an "agenda" and then you do this.

This post has no point, Ruined isn't going to argue that fact at all, it's not even relevant.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Wirehed

See, I don't get this. You guys complain about Ruined posting with an "agenda" and then you do this.

This post has no point, Ruined isn't going to argue that fact at all, it's not even relevant.

So your saying when a PS4 is released, Ruined will not try to dismantle it by posting all the negative things about it & or why the 360 is still better? Gotcha. "This post has no point" Can say the same thing about Ruined's previous posts in this thread. Maybe you can quote where he pimped out the PS3, I can't. However, TOP is full of hot air lately. AS why my previous babble.. Sega is better than Nintendo. Should have just left it alone but sometimes I get tired of reading why technically the PS3 is inferior than the 360.

[littlebib]

Originally Posted by Derb

So your saying when a PS4 is released, Ruined will not try to dismantle it by posting all the negative things about it & or why the 360 is still better?

Now you're just being silly. When the PS4 comes out, Ruined will compare it to the Xbox720, not the 360.

[1138]

Ruined posted his thoughts about why he doesn't buy into the explanation given about objects on the PS3 vs the 360.

I'm not sure what talking about a next gen console is all about. Nobody was talking about one before.

I thought his point was a valid point. Now maybe you don't agree with the techincal specifics of what he posted. Fine, talk about that. But belittling his point doesn't do much.

[Wirehed]

Originally Posted by Derb

Should have just left it alone but sometimes I get tired of reading why technically the PS3 is inferior than the 360.

Yes, you should have left it alone. That was MY point.

Ruined didn't say the PS3 was inferior to the 360, he said it was different. Then he went into details about the specifics in relation to the orginal post in this thread.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Wirehed

Yes, you should have left it alone. That was MY point.

Indeed, & I shall.

Sorry for the un-called for rants.