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Larry62186 · 10-28-2002, 01:29 AM

Due to the fact that halo was such a smash hit for the xbox, i know there is a halo 2 in development. Does anyone know anything about it? I know its not coming out until fall 2003, but i would like to know more about it.

MooglePorn · 10-28-2002, 01:34 AM

Pick up the latest EGM (latest until Tuesday anyway).

Has a GIGANTIC article on it...

sub780lime · 10-28-2002, 05:57 PM

also in the lattest Xbox mag there is a interview with game developers

Ruined · 10-28-2002, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Larry62186
Due to the fact that halo was such a smash hit for the xbox, i know there is a halo 2 in development. Does anyone know anything about it? I know its not coming out until fall 2003, but i would like to know more about it.

You can download a movie of it at XBOX.COM. Although it looks like a CG movie, its actually being realtime rendered on the XBOX. Good stuff.

Also, Halo 2 will support XBOX Live for internet multiplayer.

Larry62186 · 10-28-2002, 11:31 PM

oh man that sounds so awesome, i cant wait to get it!!

Cap42086 · 10-31-2002, 12:09 AM

Maybe this will have DTS, just like Vice City.

Ruined · 10-31-2002, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by Cap42086
Maybe this will have DTS, just like Vice City.

Considering *every* XBOX game has been encoded in realtime DD5.1 since XBOX's inception, I don't think Halo 2 will be any different. In fact, Halo 1 is one of the most impressive gaming surround experiences out there today.

With XBOX's MCPX hardware DD5.1 encoder, a game can have realtime 5.1 throughout with zero graphical hit. On the other hand, for PS2 to support DTS throughout, one of its two vector units (which are largely responsible for PS2's 'power') must be entirely dedicated to encoding 5.1 sound. Therefore, with PS2 a game developer has to lower the graphics quality in order to implement realtime 5.1 sound. Vice City probably could have looked much better and had less slowdown if the 5.1 was not implemented.

Anyway, welcome to the land of realtime 5.1

***1138*** · 10-31-2002, 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by Ruined
Vice City probably could have looked much better and had less slowdown if the 5.1 was not implemented.

Totally. I was just telling my brother yesterday that it's too bad that GTA is being developed mainly for PS2 because it could look so much better on the PC or even Xbox. The polygon counts I think are the biggest concern.

MooglePorn · 10-31-2002, 01:32 AM

I think Vice City looks great, I don't see why people are complaining. Amazing graphics IMO.

I would have liked to have an XBOX version though, for the progressive scan support and for the ability to make your own radio stations. That would have been fucking cool.

Ruined · 10-31-2002, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by MooglePorn
I think Vice City looks great, I don't see why people are complaining. Amazing graphics IMO.

I think the main problem people are having is the blockiness of the characters (lack of polys as 1138 mentioned), and the slowdown that occurs. Not that it doesn't look good, just that I think many have come to expect more with some of the graphical stunners released lately. I was stating above that if the devs didn't use realtime 5.1 they probably could have made the graphics look a lot better by using the 2nd vector unit for that instead of sound.

MooglePorn · 10-31-2002, 02:35 AM

I have beaten GTA3 and 8 hours into GTA:VC and I don't think I ever had a slowdown problem, never even really noticed it.

It might be that I turned off "Trails", I don't know if that helps. I turned it off because I didn't like the blurring effect. It looks much nicer with it off IMO.

As for people looking Polygonal, I guess this is so, but not to the point of total block people like most PS1 games. When you consider all the things on screen at the same time, and the draw distance, I think what they did with VC is amazing.

I play Morrowind on the XBOX and it's draw distance was horrid, and the graphics weren't much better.

Larry62186 · 10-31-2002, 02:39 AM

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I think the main problem people are having is the blockiness of the characters (lack of polys as 1138 mentioned), and the slowdown that occurs. Not that it doesn't look good, just that I think many have come to expect more with some of the graphical stunners released lately. I was stating above that if the devs didn't use realtime 5.1 they probably could have made the graphics look a lot better by using the 2nd vector unit for that instead of sound.

even though this thread is about halo2, i will say that i belive that the gta series is not focused on graphics, but gameplay.

Ruined · 10-31-2002, 03:28 AM

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Originally posted by MooglePorn
I have beaten GTA3 and 8 hours into GTA:VC and I don't think I ever had a slowdown problem, never even really noticed it.

It might be that I turned off "Trails", I don't know if that helps. I turned it off because I didn't like the blurring effect. It looks much nicer with it off IMO.

The trails and particle effects really bog down the PS2, and by disabling them you can get some fps back.

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As for people looking Polygonal, I guess this is so, but not to the point of total block people like most PS1 games. When you consider all the things on screen at the same time, and the draw distance, I think what they did with VC is amazing.

I play Morrowind on the XBOX and it's draw distance was horrid, and the graphics weren't much better.

The only difference being Morrowind's world is about 10,000x bigger than GTA's

IKEA_boy · 10-31-2002, 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by MooglePorn
I turned it off because I didn't like the blurring effect. It looks much nicer with it off IMO.

Is that what that does? When I played GTA3 for the first time the other day I thought the blurring just made everything harder to comprehend.

If so, thanks for mentioning that Moogle. It'll be a more enjoyable experience next time I play.

***1138*** · 10-31-2002, 04:23 AM

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Originally posted by Larry62186
even though this thread is about halo2, i will say that i belive that the gta series is not focused on graphics, but gameplay.

But it's possible to do both. Halo did it just fine. And I'm not really bashing GTA. I love playing GTA 3. In fact, I've still got to get around to beating it. I'm just saying, when I've seen the sweet commercial with the Flock of Seagulls song, I sort of cringe when I see the characters moving (like in the disco). They look pretty bad for today's 3D standards.

Ruined · 11-01-2002, 05:15 AM

Preorder your copy now!

sub780lime · 11-01-2002, 07:50 PM

you can preorder for next june

Larry62186 · 11-03-2002, 06:57 PM

i have already preorderd my copy at my local electronics boutique, its supposed to be released in june-september 2003.

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sub780lime Can't Spell Bilbo Join Date: May 2002 Location: A Galaxy Far Far Away	you can preorder for next june __________________ love comes and goes, but an avatar . . . that's forever. - Pirate

10-28-2002, 01:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
MooglePorn Actor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA	Pick up the latest EGM (latest until Tuesday anyway). Has a GIGANTIC article on it...

10-31-2002, 12:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
Cap42086 Actor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rhode Island	Maybe this will have DTS, just like Vice City.

10-31-2002, 01:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
MooglePorn Actor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA	I think Vice City looks great, I don't see why people are complaining. Amazing graphics IMO. I would have liked to have an XBOX version though, for the progressive scan support and for the ability to make your own radio stations. That would have been fucking cool.

10-31-2002, 02:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
MooglePorn Actor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA	I have beaten GTA3 and 8 hours into GTA:VC and I don't think I ever had a slowdown problem, never even really noticed it. It might be that I turned off "Trails", I don't know if that helps. I turned it off because I didn't like the blurring effect. It looks much nicer with it off IMO. As for people looking Polygonal, I guess this is so, but not to the point of total block people like most PS1 games. When you consider all the things on screen at the same time, and the draw distance, I think what they did with VC is amazing. I play Morrowind on the XBOX and it's draw distance was horrid, and the graphics weren't much better.

11-03-2002, 06:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
Larry62186 Actor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Smallest State in the Union	i have already preorderd my copy at my local electronics boutique, its supposed to be released in june-september 2003. __________________ Lawrencius Prom.sysrq.no check it out.

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