GTA: San Andreas Off the shelves?

[the_skipper]

Hey Everybody,

I heard last night that GTA: San Andreas was being pulled off the shelves @ Best Buy, Toy R Us, and I can't remember the other one because of the new Adults Only rating. Also, that they were going to re-edit the game to make it the rating it is now. Now what I want to know: is this the PS2 version that's been taken off the shelves or is it all platform versions that are going to be censored? Also where can I get the Xbox version now? Because, even though there are some MAJOR controller/camera issues with the game on the Xbox I still need to own it. Any info you can supply is needed.

Thanx

[Ruined]

www.gogamer.com

buy it fast!

[Iguana Man]

I heard this yesterday, but exactly what is unlockable that makes it now Adults Only?

I assume the strip clubs you can visit show dancers in the buff?

Details please...but do try and keep it clean if possible.

[FamilyGuyfanBOY]

It is actually quite stupid.

Essentially a bunch of rotten cheaters/modders used gamesharks, and action replays to mess with the game's code on PS2, PC and XBOX and discovered a "Hot Coffee" mini-game, which was ditched for the final release.

The mini-game, buried deep within the game, and completly locked unless you use a cheat device, involves CJ trying to pleasure his girl during "coffee" time.

You get the picture...

So, when the "hot coffee" mod hit the internet, shit hit the fan for Rockstar...and the ESRB re-rated the game to "AO-Adults ONLY, 18+"

Rockstar halted producion of the game, issued a public apology, and is currently removing the offending code from their game, aiming for a re-release at Christmas.

So basically, its no big deal, you just wont be able to find a copy of the game for a while...most stores refuse to carry "AO" titles.

[1138]

Don't blame cheaters. Rockstar left it in there to begin with so it's their fault.

OTOH, I find it disturbing that a game that is very graphically violent (including towards cops) is suddenly unplayable by kids becuase there's some sex involved.

Granted, I had no problems with the game's violence, but it's humorous what will get people motivated. God forbid a natural act between people be exposed.

[Wirehed]

Yeah, I thought that was really weird too. Nudity and sex is worse than graphic violence? What gives?

[Iguana Man]

Originally Posted by FamilyGuyfanBOY

It is actually quite stupid.

...involves CJ trying to pleasure his girl during "coffee" time.

You get the picture...

That's it? I really don't see much difference between that and the first GTA where I could pick up a hooker, pay her for sex in my car, finish up, get out and beat her with my bat dead and then take my money back.

Interesting to say the least.

[1138]

I've seen a video of it. The girl gets naked and the character gets into different positions iwht her on a bed and you have to manipulate the controls to perform better. The main character doesn't get naked though and it's with GTA character models so it's pretty cartoony looking.

[1138]

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2005/0...d-as-real.html

Somce screen caps.

Probably NSFW (unless you work with Seamonkey ).

[Iguana Man]

Oh my....that is worse...I'm actually saddened I looked at those shots.

Can you PM me the whole video please. It's for research man...really.

[Crow T. Robot]

Not only SA now the Sims is what there after.http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07...s_6129609.html

With all the problems in the world this is what everyone is concerned about?

Mods have been around for years,If these people would do something called "Research" instead of "This person told me about this so it must be true.", Most MODS are made by players not the software people. If someone wanted to make a Harry Potter game into a porn game they could! Does that mean Harry Potter gets a M rating?



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[FamilyGuyfanBOY]

Hell, a kid with $50 to spend can go out get a subscription to Maxim, and some R-Rated flicks with plenty of REAL tits at Wal-Mart...fuck this pixelated crap.

Ignorance.

[MooglePorn]

Originally Posted by FamilyGuyfanBOY

Hell, a kid with $50 to spend can go out get a subscription to Maxim, and some R-Rated flicks with plenty of REAL tits at Wal-Mart...fuck this pixelated crap.

Actually most places prevent anyone under 17 from buying R rated material now. If the point of this is to make GTA:SA the same way, I have no problem with that. No one under 17 should be playing it without parental consent anyway.

The main point of this is what 1138 and Seamonkey mentioned earlier... the game only gets an AO rating after this comes out? YEAH... OK.... Killing cops is SO much better than having sex.

Fucked up country we live in...

[FamilyGuyfanBOY]

I was thinking about that earlier to myself.
I hope they wise up, and leave the AO rating on it, even after the sex is removed. The amount of violeece and racism and adult content is shocking...and even with a parent or older sibling I really don't think kids should be able to get this.

And most Wal-Mart employees are air heads. I've seen 9 year old kids pick up R-Rated flicks all the time, inlcuding Pulp Fiction, and anyone can buy a MAXIM, because it isn't considered "adult"...I guess my point didn't come out quite right earlier...

With all these things readily avalible to kids, why attack just video games?

[Iguana Man]

Originally Posted by FamilyGuyfanBOY

With all these things readily avalible to kids, why attack just video games?

Because it's a mega-billion dollar industry and money is to be had? Or is it some Parents refuse to blame themselves for how their kids grow up?

Or is it both?

[MooglePorn]

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

Or is it some Parents refuse to blame themselves for how their kids grow up?

This is true, but at the same time, how much time do parents really have? How many games can they play or read about? How many CD's and movies? I'm all for parental responsibility, but at the same time, it doesn't hurt at all to have a label telling parents what a game or movie's general content is like. If they choose to ignore said warning, fine and dandy, but don't bitch to me. Making GTA:SA only able to be purchased by 18 year olds is just fine with me, should have been done when it first came out.

[elwood731]

Originally Posted by MooglePorn

This is true, but at the same time, how much time do parents really have? How many games can they play or read about? How many CD's and movies? I'm all for parental responsibility, but at the same time, it doesn't hurt at all to have a label telling parents what a game or movie's general content is like. If they choose to ignore said warning, fine and dandy, but don't bitch to me. Making GTA:SA only able to be purchased by 18 year olds is just fine with me, should have been done when it first came out.

We agree on this. Always blaming parents is a bit ridiculous, because all of us know we sneaked things by our parents, and could have more, despite them being involved in our lives (well, speak for myself, I suppose). There is nothing wrong with a little responsibility within the media.

[jmoney]

Originally Posted by MooglePorn

me. Making GTA:SA only able to be purchased by 18 year olds is just fine with me, should have been done when it first came out.

I won't disagree that this is definitely a title for adults. I just don't see how making this available to people 18 years and older is much different than 17 and older. At the same time Rockstar knew what they were doing and probably intended the hidden code to cause a controversy that would increase sales. I'm not thrilled that tax dollars went into investigating this trivial issue-- I just don't feel bad for Rockstar in the least.

[FamilyGuyfanBOY]

Originally Posted by jmoney

I won't disagree that this is definitely a title for adults. I just don't see how making this available to people 18 years and older is much different than 17 and older.

The rule is an AO title can not be marketed to children, AT ALL. Which means:
1)Most retailers won't sell it.
2)No one can display posters.
3)No one can run TV commercials.
4)No print ads.

Now, you pretty much gotta buy it on EBAY, rockstargames.com, or wait till Christmas.

[MooglePorn]

Originally Posted by FamilyGuyfanBOY

The rule is an AO title can not be marketed to children, AT ALL. Which means:
1)Most retailers won't sell it.
2)No one can display posters.
3)No one can run TV commercials.
4)No print ads.

Well, that's a retailer and network choice... there's no law restricting who sells an AO rated game, as it's a voluntary rating system anyway. Wal-Mart might not sell AO games, but they could if they wanted to. Also, if GTA:SA was rated AO in the beginning, and not selling it meant losing millions, stores might have changed their tune. I remember when Wal-Mart would NOT sell unrated movies... now.. they're all over.

I won't disagree that this is definitely a title for adults. I just don't see how making this available to people 18 years and older is much different than 17 and older.

Well, I can agree with this. I don't think some magical fairy comes down and makes you more mature on your 18th birthday. I don't even really see the need for an AO rating, or an NC-17 rating, since the ones below that (M and R respectively) already tell you it's meant for adults.

[furthest1]

Originally Posted by MooglePorn

Well, I can agree with this. I don't think some magical fairy comes down and makes you more mature on your 18th birthday. I don't even really see the need for an AO rating, or an NC-17 rating, since the ones below that (M and R respectively) already tell you it's meant for adults.

I agree with this, it just shows you more discretion when you are buying a game for your kid and you are an uninformed parent I guess. The idea is solid, but the exectution is just redundant. I would like ot see more detailed summaries of the "bad parts" of the game personally.