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Old 07-30-2002, 08:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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LOTR Main Menu Problem...

I had a scary moment yesterday when I fired up the LOTR movie disc and nothing happened...no main menu screen, just a blank screen...

I took the disc out and put it back in and the same thing happened again...

Just before extreme panic set in I pressed the "Top Menu" button on my remote and thankfully the main menu appeared, and I managed to play the film fine...

Has anyone else had this problem getting to the main menu?

My player is a Toshiba SD-210E and the disc is a Canadian Region 1...
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Old 07-30-2002, 08:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Tim,

Since this hasn't streeted yet, not too many of us have it yet to make a comparison.

Hopefully this will be a problem free disk, it's gonna sell like crazy...

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Old 08-03-2002, 07:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Chapter skip on LOTR

received my LOTR disk today, got an hour and a half into it and the player refuses to play chapters 24 and 25. I can access chapters before and after, but I can't chapter skip back or reverse to the place where the disk freezes up.

In the select a chapter menu thes 2 chapters (Bilbo's gift and The Ring Goes South) wil not play. they freeze up my player and the disc automatically stops.

now, it is 100 degrees where I live today. could the heat be affecting my player? If so, why does it only seem to do this to two back-to-back chapters??

PLEASE HELP ME!! :rar:
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Old 08-03-2002, 07:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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got my disk today. no menu problems, but it won't play cahpters 24 and 25
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Old 08-03-2002, 10:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't have my LOTR disc yet, but it sounds like the 'freeze' might be happening around the layer change. Have you had any trouble in the past with layer changes on other DVDs? What is your DVD player model?
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Old 08-04-2002, 02:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have a samsung DVDm90, a notorious skipper, but when I get problems with it, they are never this consistent. Everything else on the disc plays beautifully except two chapters, and like i said, i can play a couple of chapters ahead and reverse back and the disc still wil not let me stop anywhere in cahpters 24 or 25. I'm getting a new disc shipped to me, I'm just afraid a new one won't work either.
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Old 08-04-2002, 02:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Walter, what kind of player do you have?

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Old 08-06-2002, 12:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Audio pop in LOTR

Trying to gather opinion on whether this is a single disc issue, a multi-disc issue, or a player/decoder issue.

On my LOTR movie disc, at Chapter 30 (the Balrog battle, no less), at about 2:07'54" or thereabouts, there is a ridiculously loud audio 'pop' in my center channel speaker. It occurs in exactly the same place each time I play the section.

It is much louder than any of the rest of the source material (it is disconcertingly loud even when the movie is at normal speaking-level volume), and only occurs in my center channel in 5.1 mode. The pop did not occur when I tested the disc on my PC using PowerDVD, but then again, I do not have a true 5.1 setup on that machine.

My player is a Panasonic DVD-RP56, and my 5.1 decoder is a Technics SA-DX1040. They are connected by TOSLink fiber.

Anyone have any ideas? I am about to return the disc, and I'm trying to figure out whether or not I will have to do the return dance with a disc that is somehow randomly incompatible with my player/decoder combo.
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Old 08-06-2002, 02:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have details in my thread LOTR CHAPTER SKIP. please check it out and see if you can help me.
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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updated info

Looks like it's either my receiver or my player - the pop occurs on more than one copy of the disc, and doesn't occur on other people's 5.1 setups.

Anyone know which could be the cause? I can't nail it down to the player or the receiver, and I'm really not too sure if there are any options available to me for dealing with this problem.

I suppose it could be one of those random thing where I'm the only person out of the millions who are going to buy this movie who has problems with it, but I'm hoping that's not the case.

Let me know.
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Old 08-06-2002, 07:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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LOTR web featurettes won't play

Got my copy of LOTR today, however the first 3 web featurettes won't play at all. In fact my DVD player stops altogether. I tried it on 2 different DVD players with the same result. The fourth featurette starts, but is full of glitches and skipping. The rest of the featurettes do play without problem. Has this happened to anyone else?
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Old 08-06-2002, 11:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Please post the brand and model of the DVD players.
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Old 08-07-2002, 12:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Post all Possible LOTR Glitches Here

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Old 08-07-2002, 01:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
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The web featurettes problem

Sorry, I forgot my DVD model. I have a RCA RC5215P.
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Old 08-07-2002, 02:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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LOTR DVD-ROM problem

Is any one else having trouble running LOTR on a DVD-ROM.
Mine wont even start, just freezes my computer. Tried it on a mates computer and same thing. Took back the DVD I had and got a replacment and still doesn't work. If any one can help, I want to watch it.
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Old 08-07-2002, 07:02 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Sonor79 and Agentx,

Welcome to the forums.

No problems with my disk as of yet, though I have not tried the web content, nor have I attempted to play it in my computer.

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Old 08-07-2002, 01:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Have you tried a lens cleaner? 3m makes a decent one. It might be time to retire the Samsung...I dunno...you checked your power supply and possible proximity to other heat generating units, I assume?


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Old 08-07-2002, 01:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
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did a lense cleaning to no avail.I think I just got a bad disc, seeing as how consistent the problem is, i.e. relating only to those 2 chapters on that disk, etc.

as for being away from the sewer, I come here for the cooler emoticons :jawa:
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Old 08-07-2002, 09:51 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: updated info

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Looks like it's either my receiver or my player - the pop occurs on more than one copy of the disc, and doesn't occur on other people's 5.1 setups.

Anyone know which could be the cause? I can't nail it down to the player or the receiver, and I'm really not too sure if there are any options available to me for dealing with this problem.

I suppose it could be one of those random thing where I'm the only person out of the millions who are going to buy this movie who has problems with it, but I'm hoping that's not the case.

Let me know.
You aren't alone. I get a pop also. I have a Panasonic DVD-CV51 player and a Technics SA-DA10 receiver. Audio connected via TOSLink. It doesn't happen during French playback, which is in 2.0.

I hooked up my Toshiba SD-3108 the same way as the Panasonic to the receiver and the same thing happened at the same spot. So it's either the disc or it doesn't like Technics receivers.

Anyone else getting a pop in and around the same area?

Achernar: I haven't watched the whole disc yet, does it happen anywhere else?

Update: I watched the entire movie, found no other glitches, everything played smoothly. Watched most of the second disc with no problems.
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Old 08-08-2002, 01:06 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Does anyone else have little white dots all over the Moria scenes? They're only a frame long and a pixel wide, but very annoying and distracting. It's not my player, I've played it on 3 systems.

By the way, this is the 2nd bad disc I've gotten from Blockbuster (I did the LOTR deal.) The first one had a special features disc that wouldn't play the TTT preview. Argh! :rar:
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Old 08-08-2002, 05:30 AM   #21 (permalink)
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My Disk Truly Bites

I am so pissed off : <.

I have gone throght 2 copies of the Lord of the Rings (on DVD, region 4) and both of them have had major faults in them. The first copy paused and went really slowly in chapter 8 then stopped altogether. In the end we had to press next to get to chapter 9 where it paused for 5 second, lurched forward a few frames, then paused again. When it finally started to play again it was noticably slower and pixelated on bits of the screen. The rest of the movie is fine.

In the second copy chapter 8 works, but in chapter 9 half the screen is pixelated. and the rest of the movie is fine. But when I tried it out on my PC-DVD ROM, it worked perfectly.

I'm beginning to think that it's a conspiracy, it's just way too much of a coincidence that the lordoftherings.com.au is sponsored by panasonic (and won't work on ceratin DVD Players).
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Old 08-08-2002, 06:29 AM   #22 (permalink)
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What kind of PC DVD-ROM do you have. I have a Sony and it wont work at all. I had to borrow my brothers PS2 (Which is a Sony too) just to watch it.
It's also my second copy. Got mine from Blockbuster. Wouldn't think that their copies are any differn't from the store ones. But who knows. Where did you get yours from?
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Old 08-08-2002, 07:34 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I had a similar problem with my LOTR disc Walter. At the end begining chapter 25 the disc skipped back to back to the begining of chapter 24. It only happened once and played fine when it got back to the same point the second time. I have only watched the disk once so I will need to go back and see if the problem persist or if it was just a flux.

Oh by the way I have a Sony DVD player (I am at work and cant think of the exact type at right now
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Old 08-08-2002, 09:35 AM   #24 (permalink)
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RE: For Sara Janeway

It is a creative labs PC DVD ROM. We got our copies from K-Mart (it is still trading here in Oz). K-Mart is having a lot of problems with people returning their copies. BTW my dvd player is an XMS750, wouldn't have a clue as to what brand it is.


Check out www.lordoftherings.com.au to see the very prominent advertisement for Panasonic, not subtle at all.
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Old 08-08-2002, 12:33 PM   #25 (permalink)
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You aren't alone. I get a pop also. I have a Panasonic DVD-CV51 player and a Technics SA-DA10 receiver. Audio connected via TOSLink. It doesn't happen during French playback, which is in 2.0.

I hooked up my Toshiba SD-3108 the same way as the Panasonic to the receiver and the same thing happened at the same spot. So it's either the disc or it doesn't like Technics receivers.

Anyone else getting a pop in and around the same area?

Achernar: I haven't watched the whole disc yet, does it happen anywhere else?
I have watched most of the disc at this point - I haven't had an opportunity to sit down and watch the whole thing from beginning to end, but I've been watching it in pieces. I haven't seen anything past the Khazad-Dum scene yet. I haven't noticed a pop anywhere else.

I'm pretty sure it's something to do with the receiver and the way it's decoding the center channel. I tried another speaker on the center channel, and it happened again. When the receiver is switched over to stereo output, the pop doesn't occur. The weird thing is that the moment where the pop occurs isn't even that loud or busy as a lot of the surrounding material, so I don't quite understand why it decides to do that when it does.

I figured it was the disc at first, since these things are supposedly manufactured and encoded/decoded to standards that are supposed to remain unchanged and work smoothly from platform to platform, so I tried my neighbor's copy just to make sure - some spot, same pop.

Looks like I have to chalk up the ruining of one of my favorite movies of all time - on the best scene - to random audio component retardedness (which I'm very not happy with - I just bought this thing a year ago).
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Looks like I have to chalk up the ruining of one of my favorite movies of all time - on the best scene - to random audio component retardedness (which I'm very not happy with - I just bought this thing a year ago).
Yes, I feel the same way. It sucks. But this is the first time I ever come across a glitch like this. Judging from reports of all the other audio bugs reported by other users on this disc, I'm not entirely convinced the receiver is the only one to blame. Maybe there is a glitch on the disc at that point and it's only heard under certain conditions, something Technics uses for decoding maybe. I don't know, I'm not an expert but I've gone through hundreds of discs with this receiver and never had a problem with audio. If it was happening with other discs, I'd replace the receiver.
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Re: Audio pop in LOTR

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Trying to gather opinion on whether this is a single disc issue, a multi-disc issue, or a player/decoder issue.

On my LOTR movie disc, at Chapter 30 (the Balrog battle, no less), at about 2:07'54" or thereabouts, there is a ridiculously loud audio 'pop' in my center channel speaker. It occurs in exactly the same place each time I play the section.
EDIT: all right, I don't know why the above isn't showing up in bold or whatever.

It would be during the Balrog battle, wouldn't it? Of all scenes in the movie, it just would be.

I'll have to check my copy for it today.

It is my experience, however, that audio POPs occur more often then most people seem to realize. I hear them (using just the internal speakers of my 19" TV), I post about them, and usually anyone who responds swears that they didn't notice anything.

I think POPs are the result of a technical glitch that occurs prior to replication. I've returned several discs that had audio POPs on them, and only once has my replacement disc ever NOT exibited the same exact POP in the same exact place as where I originally noticed it (the lucky disc was Evangelion, volume 4). The original DVD release of Star Trek II, in particular, is full of POPs.

I feel your pain, man... but I don't think there's anything to be done about it. Distributers really need to start paying more attention to the quality of their products. (Now I'll probably notice the POP on my disc, and then never again be able to avoid noticing it...)

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Old 08-08-2002, 06:16 PM   #28 (permalink)
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This pop is loud. It sounds like a vacuum tube or bulb just popped inside the speaker. If you heard it for the first time without expecting it, the sound would make you think something just broke somewhere in your HT. It's an uneasy sound, especially at high volume. It makes my dog jump everytime and loud noises don't bother him, he just lies there on the couch even during the loudest of movies.
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Old 08-08-2002, 07:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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This isn't my glitch, but my best friend got her DVD the first day it came out and then got very upset when it wouldn't play past chapter 14.

I said I hoped it was just her disc and not a problem on all discs, guess many of the discs have the same or various other problems

I just got both discs from NetFlix and I'm a bit apprehensive about putting them in my player.

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