Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban glitch

prufty · 11-25-2004, 12:13 AM

Has anyone else got a copy of this movie with what seems to be a bad transfer. If you've got your brightness turned down, you wont notice it, but if you turn it up, you'll see right-tilted bars in all the dark areas, moving across the picture from the left. What's even more odd, is that it only appears in the actual picture frame and not in the black letterbox matting. So I think it must have come from the source material, which then makes me think that it must be a general problem for anyone who owns this disc. It's very hard to see on a normal tv screen, but if displayed on a computermonitor or LCD display, it's much more apparent. My copy is canadian R1.

movieguy · 11-26-2004, 04:04 PM

Yes and I noticed another strange item on the disc. At 17:31, under the poster on the wall, there is a number, specifically "301" that appears on the screen for a frame or two. Strange.

prufty · 11-26-2004, 05:25 PM

Thanks movieguy, yes it's very strange. Almost looks like something you would see in a workprint. Warner really messed up here. Funny considering they almost never do. The first and the second Harry DVD's were really great quality. Does any one know how to contact Warner about this. I'd very much like to add a "fixed" version to my Harry collection. For any of you out there who has difficulty spotting the "bars", try this, and really crank up the brightness on your screen; Go to chapter 28 and go a few seconds back. Watch the fadeout and keep watching till you see Harry on the screen again, and you'll probably have noticed the "noice" in the picture frame in between, even still when you can begin to see Harry's face.

Sword of Whedon · 11-26-2004, 05:35 PM

I severely doubt they're going to recompress the entire feature just to get rid of the 301

And sorry, don't see anything but solid black on the computer or my TV, even with the digital zoom

Something tells me that you need to calibrate your TV

prufty · 11-26-2004, 06:05 PM

Sword of Whedon> I played the DVD on different displays and players. It has nothing to do with that, and as I posted the first time, it's only located in the actual frame and not visible in the black letterboxing, so it must have come from the source material, or else it would have appeared on the whole 16:9 picture frame, both the picture frame and black letterbox matting. Maybe you just got lucky and didn't cathch a copy of the bad batch.

btm5540 · 11-27-2004, 05:29 AM

I was watching the latest Harry Potter film on my samsung dvd p-231 player and I noticed something. In Chapter 14 at about the 51:57 point in the film there is a green tinted flicker that lasts about a second. The picture does not freeze like a layer switch it just gets discolored for a split second. It does it on my computer as well. Is this a bad disc? or is it in the print and that is the way it is? or is it my player? any thoughts? What causes flickers like this?

prufty · 11-27-2004, 03:52 PM

btm5540> sorry, but I can't seem to find anything wrong there on my copy. Maybe someone else has a similar faulty copy? Has anyone else experienced these problems? If so, please post about it here. I'd like to know if I've missed other strange stuff on the disc.

Iguana Man · 11-27-2004, 06:14 PM

I'll be watching this tonight on a Sanyo Z2 (lcd) PJ fed via component from a Denon 3910.

1) So, I am to look for right tilted bars moving from left to right in dark areas? This is on a widescreen disc and throughout the entire movie in the viewing area, right? (I assume I wont even see black letter boxing since my disc is widescreen pumped onto a widescreen?)

2) 17:31 look for the # 301 under a poster.

3) And finally a green tinted flicker @ 51:57.

Assuming I don't get too, uhmm... "festive" later, and I remember to look for these glitches, I will post my results!

Sword of Whedon · 11-27-2004, 06:57 PM

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Sword of Whedon> I played the DVD on different displays and players. It has nothing to do with that, and as I posted the first time, it's only located in the actual frame and not visible in the black letterboxing

And that's where I looked, it fades to black exactly as you said. What you're seeing is not a digital artifact, and sounds like analog interference. The DVD and its master both being digital every step of the way since film would not exhibit this. On both my TV and my computer, these problems do not show up

And all the copies being identical, I'd check your equipment

Iguana Man · 11-27-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

1) So, I am to look for right tilted bars moving from left to right in dark areas? This is on a widescreen disc and throughout the entire movie in the viewing area, right? (I assume I wont even see black letter boxing since my disc is widescreen pumped onto a widescreen?)

Well so far I haven't seen the 'bars'. I DO however have the top and bottom letterbox bars, and why I don't know.

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2) 17:31 look for the # 301 under a poster.

Nope....no 301, but the dude in the poster is holding the # 390. You are talking about the dude in the poster on the column - right?

EDITED: Didn't see the green tint either....sorry man.

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Now, you must either have a bad disc, or you've got some power issues taken over in your house. I kinda doubt it's the later, given it's safe to bet your different sources are more than likely on different 'grids' (for lack of a better term). Also, you probably dont see these anomalies on ALL your dvd's....so I'm saying bad disc. Quick solution...rent it and see if that disc also has glitches.

Sword of Whedon · 11-27-2004, 10:25 PM

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1) So, I am to look for right tilted bars moving from left to right in dark areas? This is on a widescreen disc and throughout the entire movie in the viewing area, right? (I assume I wont even see black letter boxing since my disc is widescreen pumped onto a widescreen?)

It's a scope film, you'll still have them.

Iguana Man · 11-27-2004, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sword of Whedon

It's a scope film, you'll still have them.

So I don't derail this thread...see here

leeving · 11-28-2004, 02:31 AM

From another thread: link

akrycek · 11-28-2004, 04:35 AM

I can see the tilt bars in the dark scenes on both my PC and TV. I'm no expert on TV calibration, but I don't notice these tilt bars in dark scenes of other DVD's I have. I also didn't notice them in some of the trailer footage. I have also seen the 301 below the poster. Someone in the other thread said the 301 was some form of copy protection. I have also seen the green flicker at 51:57.

I hoping that some of the official reviews will mention these issues and bring them to Warner's attention. To me, the transfer is a little disappointing. IMHO, some of the scenes used in the trailers and featurettes looked better than in the film itself. Some also looked worse though. I just don't know if Warner would be willing to fix the issues we see in the transfer. Also, if not everyone is noticing the problem of the tilt bars, we may have a bad batch of discs.

Krycek

prufty · 11-28-2004, 10:52 AM

So now we are a few in here who can agree that this is indeed a digital artifact on a some of these disc's, and NOT analog inteference. In another thread it was posted that some have the number 302 appearing instead. I've noticed that some of those who have the number 301, also have seen the "tilted bars" in the film. But what about the disc's that have 302. Does 302 have the "tilted bars" picture noice?

Sword of Whedon · 11-28-2004, 04:12 PM

It appears that by the "tilted bars", he meant the black bars on the widescreen picture.

We still don't know what the numbering scheme means, but I'm betting it's regional.

Iguana Man · 11-28-2004, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sword of Whedon

It appears that by the "tilted bars", he meant the black bars on the widescreen picture.

Say what? I thought he meant tilted bars that moved from left to right during dark scenes? Are we talking about what Prufty said or Akrycek?

As usual...I'm

prufty · 11-28-2004, 05:06 PM

Iguana Man> We are talking about what I and Akrycek have seen. Sword of Whedon is totally not getting it. Why would anyone find the letterboxing strange if they bought the widescreen version?! No, we are talking about "tilt bars" moving from left to right, that are visible in dark scenes or dark transition.

Sword of Whedon · 11-28-2004, 07:53 PM

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Iguana Man> We are talking about what I and Akrycek have seen. Sword of Whedon is totally not getting it. Why would anyone find the letterboxing strange if they bought the widescreen version?! No, we are talking about "tilt bars" moving from left to right, that are visible in dark scenes or dark transition.

That's what I thought was meant originally, then I think Iguana confused me

Iguana Man · 11-28-2004, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sword of Whedon

That's what I thought was meant originally, then I think Iguana confused me

They should change my title to: I'm one confusing Son of a Biatch!

slateman · 12-28-2004, 03:14 AM

Sorry to bump this aging thread, but I just got my copy of this movie for the holidays, and I can confirm without a doubt that there is "line noise" (best way to describe it) present on the video transfer of this film. This looks like something that occured at the mastering level to me. I am getting "right tilted" vertical bars moving through the picture on the darkest scenes. The bars are ever so lighter in color. The bars do not enter the letterbox area of the picture and only reside on the print itself. If you pause the film, the bars pause as well. I tried it on 3 completely different setups in my house... A 57" JVC Projection TV with Samsung DVD Player, a 30" 16:9 Sony Widescreen TV with Sony DVD Player, and a bog standard 19" Panasonic TV with Xbox DVD Player. In all 3 instances, the line noise, or whatever it is, was plainly visible. I have my 57" JVC TV calibrated with Avia, and all my other discs look perfect. This is not laser rot... it has the appearance of interference or a bad cable... but it is on the DVD... not from my stuff. Dunno if there was a "bad batch" or what. Just adding my two cents.

The Riddler · 01-13-2005, 01:52 PM

I finally popped in my Harry Potter disc and noticed the same thing U guys are describing. Tilted lines going from left to right throughout most of the feature. It really bothered me too & I immediately thought there was something going wrong with my connection.

But as stated by some of U above, pause it and go "slow-mo" and the bars go along with it, so its DEFINITELY the DVD, not my connecitons as some of U concluded.

My other DVDs play fine.

Any word on corrections? Someone please help.

EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to mention my equipment. Toshiba 50" projection, DVD Panasonic F85 5-disc Carousel.

slateman · 01-20-2005, 10:27 PM

Apparently, only like 10 people in the entire world have this issue with HP and the PoA, because this thread never got that large, or nobody cares, or people's setups look like crap all the time so they dont see the issue. I am tempted to just get one more copy of the film and see if it was a "batch" issue or something.

Is there a way to call WB Home Video? I been looking for a good contact number. Oh well.

Iguana Man · 01-21-2005, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slateman

Apparently, only like 10 people in the entire world have this issue with HP and the PoA, because this thread never got that large, or nobody cares, or people's setups look like crap all the time so they dont see the issue. I am tempted to just get one more copy of the film and see if it was a "batch" issue or something.

Is there a way to call WB Home Video? I been looking for a good contact number. Oh well.

I did a search and found this thread (last page) that for all I know some of you here have already seen or particpated in....but....my point is, it seems to be an "issue". What's cool is they mention on one of the pages a link to us! Dvdfile.com !

Is this what people see?

The Riddler · 01-24-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

Is this what people see?

Maybe my LCD screen is too dark, but I don't really see the wavy lines on that capture. All I know is it bothers me a great deal & would love to hear if replacements will be issued.

slateman · 01-25-2005, 08:16 PM

Its kinda hard to see the tilted lines in that screenshot, but I assure you, its definately on the disc and not my system. I have literally hundreds and hundreds of DVDs, and never see the same issue ever. I already gave away the disc to someone who has regular TV and doesn't care. I guess I will just wait until the disc is reissued or maybe a chance a second purchase. Oh well.

mighty mint · 02-01-2005, 01:09 PM

Well, I have that stupid little number appearing but I don't seem to have the lines so...I guess putting up with a quick blip isn't too bad.

11-25-2004, 12:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
prufty Supporting Actor Join Date: Mar 2004	Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban glitch Has anyone else got a copy of this movie with what seems to be a bad transfer. If you've got your brightness turned down, you wont notice it, but if you turn it up, you'll see right-tilted bars in all the dark areas, moving across the picture from the left. What's even more odd, is that it only appears in the actual picture frame and not in the black letterbox matting. So I think it must have come from the source material, which then makes me think that it must be a general problem for anyone who owns this disc. It's very hard to see on a normal tv screen, but if displayed on a computermonitor or LCD display, it's much more apparent. My copy is canadian R1. Last edited by prufty : 11-26-2004 at 11:35 PM.

11-26-2004, 04:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
movieguy Actor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas	301 Yes and I noticed another strange item on the disc. At 17:31, under the poster on the wall, there is a number, specifically "301" that appears on the screen for a frame or two. Strange.

11-26-2004, 05:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
prufty Supporting Actor Join Date: Mar 2004	Thanks movieguy, yes it's very strange. Almost looks like something you would see in a workprint. Warner really messed up here. Funny considering they almost never do. The first and the second Harry DVD's were really great quality. Does any one know how to contact Warner about this. I'd very much like to add a "fixed" version to my Harry collection. For any of you out there who has difficulty spotting the "bars", try this, and really crank up the brightness on your screen; Go to chapter 28 and go a few seconds back. Watch the fadeout and keep watching till you see Harry on the screen again, and you'll probably have noticed the "noice" in the picture frame in between, even still when you can begin to see Harry's face. Last edited by prufty : 11-26-2004 at 11:33 PM.

11-26-2004, 06:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
prufty Supporting Actor Join Date: Mar 2004	Sword of Whedon> I played the DVD on different displays and players. It has nothing to do with that, and as I posted the first time, it's only located in the actual frame and not visible in the black letterboxing, so it must have come from the source material, or else it would have appeared on the whole 16:9 picture frame, both the picture frame and black letterbox matting. Maybe you just got lucky and didn't cathch a copy of the bad batch. Last edited by prufty : 11-26-2004 at 11:32 PM.

11-27-2004, 05:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
btm5540 Supporting Actor Join Date: Nov 2004	Another glitch in Harry Potter I was watching the latest Harry Potter film on my samsung dvd p-231 player and I noticed something. In Chapter 14 at about the 51:57 point in the film there is a green tinted flicker that lasts about a second. The picture does not freeze like a layer switch it just gets discolored for a split second. It does it on my computer as well. Is this a bad disc? or is it in the print and that is the way it is? or is it my player? any thoughts? What causes flickers like this?

11-26-2004, 05:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sword of Whedon Actor Join Date: Jan 2004	I severely doubt they're going to recompress the entire feature just to get rid of the 301 And sorry, don't see anything but solid black on the computer or my TV, even with the digital zoom Something tells me that you need to calibrate your TV

11-27-2004, 03:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
prufty Supporting Actor Join Date: Mar 2004	btm5540> sorry, but I can't seem to find anything wrong there on my copy. Maybe someone else has a similar faulty copy? Has anyone else experienced these problems? If so, please post about it here. I'd like to know if I've missed other strange stuff on the disc.

11-27-2004, 06:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	I'll be watching this tonight on a Sanyo Z2 (lcd) PJ fed via component from a Denon 3910. 1) So, I am to look for right tilted bars moving from left to right in dark areas? This is on a widescreen disc and throughout the entire movie in the viewing area, right? (I assume I wont even see black letter boxing since my disc is widescreen pumped onto a widescreen?) 2) 17:31 look for the # 301 under a poster. 3) And finally a green tinted flicker @ 51:57. Assuming I don't get too, uhmm... "festive" later, and I remember to look for these glitches, I will post my results! __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

11-28-2004, 02:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
leeving Actor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oregon	From another thread: link

11-28-2004, 04:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
akrycek Actor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Chester, VA	I can see the tilt bars in the dark scenes on both my PC and TV. I'm no expert on TV calibration, but I don't notice these tilt bars in dark scenes of other DVD's I have. I also didn't notice them in some of the trailer footage. I have also seen the 301 below the poster. Someone in the other thread said the 301 was some form of copy protection. I have also seen the green flicker at 51:57. I hoping that some of the official reviews will mention these issues and bring them to Warner's attention. To me, the transfer is a little disappointing. IMHO, some of the scenes used in the trailers and featurettes looked better than in the film itself. Some also looked worse though. I just don't know if Warner would be willing to fix the issues we see in the transfer. Also, if not everyone is noticing the problem of the tilt bars, we may have a bad batch of discs. Krycek Last edited by akrycek : 11-28-2004 at 04:39 AM.

11-28-2004, 10:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
prufty Supporting Actor Join Date: Mar 2004	So now we are a few in here who can agree that this is indeed a digital artifact on a some of these disc's, and NOT analog inteference. In another thread it was posted that some have the number 302 appearing instead. I've noticed that some of those who have the number 301, also have seen the "tilted bars" in the film. But what about the disc's that have 302. Does 302 have the "tilted bars" picture noice?

11-28-2004, 04:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
Sword of Whedon Actor Join Date: Jan 2004	It appears that by the "tilted bars", he meant the black bars on the widescreen picture. We still don't know what the numbering scheme means, but I'm betting it's regional.

11-28-2004, 05:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
prufty Supporting Actor Join Date: Mar 2004	Iguana Man> We are talking about what I and Akrycek have seen. Sword of Whedon is totally not getting it. Why would anyone find the letterboxing strange if they bought the widescreen version?! No, we are talking about "tilt bars" moving from left to right, that are visible in dark scenes or dark transition. Last edited by prufty : 11-28-2004 at 05:48 PM.

12-28-2004, 03:14 AM	#21 (permalink)
slateman Actor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Gaithersburg, MD	Sorry to bump this aging thread, but I just got my copy of this movie for the holidays, and I can confirm without a doubt that there is "line noise" (best way to describe it) present on the video transfer of this film. This looks like something that occured at the mastering level to me. I am getting "right tilted" vertical bars moving through the picture on the darkest scenes. The bars are ever so lighter in color. The bars do not enter the letterbox area of the picture and only reside on the print itself. If you pause the film, the bars pause as well. I tried it on 3 completely different setups in my house... A 57" JVC Projection TV with Samsung DVD Player, a 30" 16:9 Sony Widescreen TV with Sony DVD Player, and a bog standard 19" Panasonic TV with Xbox DVD Player. In all 3 instances, the line noise, or whatever it is, was plainly visible. I have my 57" JVC TV calibrated with Avia, and all my other discs look perfect. This is not laser rot... it has the appearance of interference or a bad cable... but it is on the DVD... not from my stuff. Dunno if there was a "bad batch" or what. Just adding my two cents. __________________ *"Swallow me whole. Make me learn. Don't need me. Crush my soul, make me feel."* - Justin K. Broadrick Godflesh

01-13-2005, 01:52 PM	#22 (permalink)
The Riddler Actor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Where Most "Fogies" Are Discounted & Votes Often Miscounted!	I finally popped in my Harry Potter disc and noticed the same thing U guys are describing. Tilted lines going from left to right throughout most of the feature. It really bothered me too & I immediately thought there was something going wrong with my connection. But as stated by some of U above, pause it and go "slow-mo" and the bars go along with it, so its DEFINITELY the DVD, not my connecitons as some of U concluded. My other DVDs play fine. Any word on corrections? Someone please help. EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to mention my equipment. Toshiba 50" projection, DVD Panasonic F85 5-disc Carousel. __________________ "What's Green, Sits in a bathtub & Whistles?"

01-20-2005, 10:27 PM	#23 (permalink)
slateman Actor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Gaithersburg, MD	Apparently, only like 10 people in the entire world have this issue with HP and the PoA, because this thread never got that large, or nobody cares, or people's setups look like crap all the time so they dont see the issue. I am tempted to just get one more copy of the film and see if it was a "batch" issue or something. Is there a way to call WB Home Video? I been looking for a good contact number. Oh well. __________________ *"Swallow me whole. Make me learn. Don't need me. Crush my soul, make me feel."* - Justin K. Broadrick Godflesh

01-25-2005, 08:16 PM	#26 (permalink)
slateman Actor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Gaithersburg, MD	Its kinda hard to see the tilted lines in that screenshot, but I assure you, its definately on the disc and not my system. I have literally hundreds and hundreds of DVDs, and never see the same issue ever. I already gave away the disc to someone who has regular TV and doesn't care. I guess I will just wait until the disc is reissued or maybe a chance a second purchase. Oh well. __________________ *"Swallow me whole. Make me learn. Don't need me. Crush my soul, make me feel."* - Justin K. Broadrick Godflesh

02-01-2005, 01:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
mighty mint The Freshmaker! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In the Land of the Ice and Snow, eh!	Well, I have that stupid little number appearing but I don't seem to have the lines so...I guess putting up with a quick blip isn't too bad. __________________ MM wishes he had a new tv to go with his new BD player. IMAX ~ another great Canadian invention!

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