Billy Madison Special Edition misframed?

Ruined · 01-07-2005, 03:31 AM

Comparing the transfers of the first Billy Madison DVD and the SE, it is clear that some scenes of the Special Edition are zoomed in. The most obvious case of this is the first scene. Check it out.

Sycho · 01-07-2005, 04:18 PM

post screen shots, and how many % zoomed in, I'd say upto around 5% total ok, no more

Ruined · 01-08-2005, 12:50 AM

okay, checked it out. appears that its not really zoomed in (it is a bit, but not enough to lose pic info), but rather the framing is a bit different, it seems they are vertically framed different:

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Billy Madision (Original Edition)
http://www.reflectonreality.com/imag...ison/bmold.jpg

Billy Madison (Special Edition)
http://www.reflectonreality.com/imag...ison/bmnew.jpg

New version looks a ton better tho

Sycho · 01-08-2005, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruined

okay, checked it out. appears that its not really zoomed in (it is a bit, but not enough to lose pic info), but rather the framing is a bit different, it seems they are vertically framed different:

copy and paste URLs into browser address line

Billy Madision (Original Edition)
http://www.reflectonreality.com/images/bmadison/bmold.jpg

Billy Madison (Special Edition)
http://www.reflectonreality.com/images/bmadison/bmnew.jpg

New version looks a ton better tho

yes the new version looks alot better, but you lose very little picture, it seems zoomed in, but look at the right side of the old, and then switch right to the new, the under scan is gone and a little info is gone, under 2% so fuck it, i think that the increased picture quailty more than make up for a few pixels that are missing

Ruined · 01-08-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sycho

yes the new version looks alot better, but you lose very little picture, it seems zoomed in, but look at the right side of the old, and then switch right to the new, the under scan is gone and a little info is gone, under 2% so fuck it, i think that the increased picture quailty more than make up for a few pixels that are missing

The biggest change is that the matte appears to been moved vertically upwards in the new version. i.e. look at the sky and the bottom of the fountain on the two images that are both taken at the same spot in the movie.

Sycho · 01-08-2005, 01:30 AM

is there motion is this scene? i haven't seem this in a while?

Sycho · 01-08-2005, 01:33 AM

if you look at the tree in the very top, just to the left of the water, it does not appear to move, while the fountain moves a fair bit.

Ruined · 01-09-2005, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sycho

is there motion is this scene? i haven't seem this in a while?

no this is a steady shot

Ruined · 01-09-2005, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sycho

if you look at the tree in the very top, just to the left of the water, it does not appear to move, while the fountain moves a fair bit.

After playing around with it I think it is a combination of some minor zooming plus the matte being moved up vertically. This makes the tree look bigger, and the fountain moved. If you notice, the top of the fountain water is cut off in the "old" version while you can see the top of the fountain in the "new" version. Also, all of the trees appear to move a bit, but since they are bigger due to the zoom in the new version its not as noticable as the change in the fountain.

tomdkat · 01-11-2005, 01:56 AM

Wow, this is the best interaction I've seen you two have yet!

Peace...

Sycho · 01-11-2005, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomdkat

Wow, this is the best interaction I've seen you two have yet!

Peace...

well, you haven't visited the game forum for a while have you? well at least the threads i participated in

tomdkat · 01-11-2005, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sycho

well, you haven't visited the game forum for a while have you? well at least the threads i participated in

Nope, I haven't been there and I usually don't poke my head in there since I'm not really a gamer. I figured the DD vs dts animosity between you two applied to things other than DD vs dts, but that's an invalid assumption on my part.

Peace...

01-07-2005, 03:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ruined It's Good to Play Together Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NJ, USA	Billy Madison Special Edition misframed? Comparing the transfers of the first Billy Madison DVD and the SE, it is clear that some scenes of the Special Edition are zoomed in. The most obvious case of this is the first scene. Check it out. __________________ For every shadow, no matter how deep, is threatened by morning light.

01-07-2005, 04:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sycho I needs to show ID with a personal check Join Date: Dec 2003	post screen shots, and how many % zoomed in, I'd say upto around 5% total ok, no more __________________ On the bed, on the floor, on the towel by the door. In the tub, in the car, up against the mini-bar.

01-08-2005, 12:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ruined It's Good to Play Together Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NJ, USA	okay, checked it out. appears that its not really zoomed in (it is a bit, but not enough to lose pic info), but rather the framing is a bit different, it seems they are vertically framed different: copy and paste URLs into browser address line Billy Madision (Original Edition) http://www.reflectonreality.com/imag...ison/bmold.jpg Billy Madison (Special Edition) http://www.reflectonreality.com/imag...ison/bmnew.jpg New version looks a ton better tho __________________ For every shadow, no matter how deep, is threatened by morning light.

01-08-2005, 01:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
Sycho I needs to show ID with a personal check Join Date: Dec 2003	is there motion is this scene? i haven't seem this in a while? __________________ On the bed, on the floor, on the towel by the door. In the tub, in the car, up against the mini-bar.

01-08-2005, 01:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sycho I needs to show ID with a personal check Join Date: Dec 2003	if you look at the tree in the very top, just to the left of the water, it does not appear to move, while the fountain moves a fair bit. __________________ On the bed, on the floor, on the towel by the door. In the tub, in the car, up against the mini-bar.

01-11-2005, 01:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
tomdkat Official Forum Warmonger "Dial Tone" Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hayward, CA, USA	Wow, this is the best interaction I've seen you two have yet! Peace... __________________ My DVD Aficionado List "At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!"

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