5 Reason Why You Shouldn't Buy An Blu-Ray Player Yet

[plissken99]

Originally Posted by DakotaDave

Feb 5 2008
Five reasons you shouldn't buy a Blu-ray player yet
John P. Falcone

Per CNET


Don't overpay for an obsolete Blu-ray player like this $,1000 Pioneer Elite BDP-95FD

(Credit: Pioneer)


With HD DVD looking more and more like it's on the ropes, it would seem like the ideal time to commit to Blu-ray--right? Not so fast. There are at least five reasons to stick with your good old-fashioned DVD player--at least for the next few months. (And, as always, there are some key caveats and insider secrets for those who can't resist pullling the trigger as soon as possible.)

1. Nearly all current Blu-ray players are obsolete: The Blu-ray standard is still evolving. Most models currently available use the original Profile 1.0 standard, while some newer models use Profile 1.1 (which adds the ability to show picture-in-picture commentaries). Later this year, the first Profile 2.0 players--which add the ability to deliver online special features (BD Live)--will become available. Ironically, both of these are designed to bring the Blu-ray standard in line with HD DVD players, which have long been able to deliver these features.

A couple of the most recent Blu-ray players (the combo players from Samsung and LG) can be updated from Profile 1.0 to 1.1 with a downloadable firmware update. But the PlayStation 3 is, supposedly, the only existing Blu-ray player that will be fully upgradeable to Profile 2.0. So if you don't want your Blu-ray player to be obsolete, the PS3 is your only choice until 2.0 models--such as the Panasonic DMP-BD50--hit later this year.

Caveat: Does anybody really watch those PiP-enabled commentaries? Or want updated trailers downloaded from the Web? Beyond the hardcore cinephiles, I think the answer is a big "no." In other words, if you're among the vast majority who only wants to watch the movie, you're not really gaining anything with a 1.1. or 2.0 player. Those older Blu-ray players should play everything else on the disc (the non-playable features are just grayed out on the menu). With the older players hitting the discount racks to make way for newer models, getting a Profile 1.0 player is a nice way to score a Blu-ray player on the cheap ($300 or less).

2. Blu-ray is best on a big-screen TV: Can you see the difference between standard DVD and Blu-ray? Yes--but it may not be as noticeable as you would think. Like all high-definition material, Blu-ray discs look their most-impressive at bigger screen sizes, where DVD can sometimes start to look a bit soft. Put another way: if your TV is 37 inches or smaller, you probably won't be getting a huge advantage from Blu-ray.

Caveat: Eagle-eyed videophiles--or those who sit especially close to their 1080p TVs--may well see a difference. Rule of thumb: if HDTV programming looks noticeably better than DVD playback on your TV, then Blu-ray will be a worthwhile investment.

3. There are still very few movies available on Blu-ray: As of February 5, 2008, there are less than 450 current Blu-ray titles available in North America (not counting discontinued and adult titles). That stacks up well to HD DVD (around 400). But it's a drop in the bucket compared to standard DVD, which has at least 90,000 titles available (including TV shows).

Caveat: Sure, it's small now, but the number of Blu-ray titles is growing slowly but surely. In fact, Blu-ray and HD DVD adoption (combined) has actually outpaced that of the original DVD format, which took three or four years before it really went mainstream.

4. Blu-ray still has growing pains: How many times have you popped a brand new DVD into your player, only to be greeted with a message that you need to update the firmware to view the movie? Probably never, but Blu-ray early adopters have faced this message more than they would like to admit. (To be fair, HD DVD has had its share of disc compatibility issues as well.) To make matters worse, many early Blu-ray players can't update via Ethernet, so you'll need to burn a CD to update the player. If you're reading Crave, burning a disc probably isn't a problem--but there are many less-tech-savvy people that love DVDs, but have no idea what an ISO file is.

5. Prices have nowhere to go but down: Even without competition from HD DVD, Blu-ray prices seem to be on a one-way ticket downward. Older players can be purchases for about $300, so don't be surprised to see Black Friday 2008 specials at $249 or $199. Caveat: See item number 1: the cheaper players are likely to be older models that are effectively "obsolete."

So there you have it: there's absolutely no compelling reason to dive into Blu-ray, at least for the next few months. But as with all of the items above, the conclusion comes with a big caveat of its own: the Sony PlayStation 3. It's the only player that's futureproof, it doubles as a top-notch game machine and network digital media streamer, and it's readily available for $400. Oh--it also happens to be a great Blu-ray player, and it does a fine job of upconverting your standard DVDs to high-definition resolutions. As such, it remains the exception to the rule, and the only Blu-ray player that we can enthusiastically recommend for the time being.

I'm gonna do to this list what George Carlin did for the 10 Commandments, remove all the bullshit, and see whats left.

1. Nearly all Blu Ray players are obsolete.

This may be the only valid point, however we have yet to see which ones can't make the 2.0 spec. I have no experience here, as I use the perfectly safe PS3. Oh, and reason number 4 is the same as reason 1, so already we're simplifying things.

2. Blu-ray is best on a big-screen TV.

Completly subjective. Working in Best Buy, I see many reactions daily. We had a Sony BD player hooked up to a 32in 1080p Sharp playing Pixars Cars on BD, next to the same TV playing the same movie off a Pioneer upconverting DVD player. Of the dozens I saw react to this, maybe two people were not impressed by the difference, even at that size. So I'm gonna call bullshit on number 2, and strike it.

3. There are still very few movies available on Blu-ray.

Complete small minded reason here. DVD took years to build a respectable catalog, but I was enjoying high quality(at the time) DVD movies by Christmas 97, many of those releases I still own. SO while this may be a reason, I would by no means call it a good one.

4. Blu-ray still has growing pains.

Again see reason #1, stricken!

5. Prices have nowhere to go but down.

*insert fake fart sound here*
While true, it may not mean much. Since the format war has basically ended, prices won't be so quick to fall anymore. Plus, again in Best Buy, even people of lesser means are amazed our single disc upconverting DVD players top out at $100, and actually question the quality of them as a result. Considering the price of early DVD players, $300-$400 is a bargain.

So when you boil it all down, reason 1 is fair, but only amounts to buyer beware and look into what your buying, and two other reasons that are very nearly bogus and speak only to the totally ball-less among consumers.

[DakotaDave]

Originally Posted by plissken99

3. There are still very few movies available on Blu-ray.

Complete small minded reason here. DVD took years to build a respectable catalog, but I was enjoying high quality(at the time) DVD movies by Christmas 97, many of those releases I still own. SO while this may be a reason, I would by no means call it a good one.

Im calling BULLSHIT on this one! Christmas '97; DVD's were barely out! That was the first year they came out. They didn't fully take over til '00-'01. Unless you were rich back then and say you could afford everything and act like its easy and cheap like all these other freaks say BLU-GAY is on here.

[plissken99]

Originally Posted by DakotaDave

Im calling BULLSHIT on this one! Christmas '97; DVD's were barely out!

And you'd be wrong. Got a $600 Sony player for Christmas 97, I bought DVDs before Christmas to ensure I'd get it, plus helped the parents out financially a bit . And no we weren't rich then or now, we just always regretted not getting into laserdisc, so we jumped on DVD all being movie buffs.

First DVD purchased on it's release day 10/21/97. http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_ite...searchID=29622

[chlngr1970]

Originally Posted by Jast3r Rogu3

Yeah but the guy who wrote this is obviously a microsoft paid monkey or just another anti-Sony read.
Either way nobody cares about profile 2.0 its all about the movies and nobody can deny Blu-ray offers the best movies.

I'm calling bull shit on this one. The best movies is nothing but a supjective statement, and NO ONE can claim they have better movies. It all comes down to what movies YOU want to watch. I have no desire to watch Crank. I have no desire to own a good portion of the library that Blu Ray has. I prefer the releases in the HD DVD camp, so in MY mind, HD DVD has the Better releases ( Stardust, Transformers, Bourn trilogy. ) than Blu Ray.

j

[Iguana Man]

Originally Posted by chlngr1970

The best movies is nothing but a supjective statement, and NO ONE can claim they have better movies.
j

I'd agree but will defer to Tomdkat as I feel his movies are better than anyones.



(where the hell is that son of a beotch when you need him?)



EDITED: Those 5 reasons mean one thing to me personally. I'll just wait a few months more. At that point, they should mean little. I think. Nothing personal either DD.

[sambow87]

I just got a PS3 yesterday and oh...my...gawd....This thing is incredibly fast and an excellent blu-ray player. Popped in Spider Man 3 (the pack in) and it loaded instantly. I switched chapters and that loaded instantly too. I'm quite surprised actually.

Considering I bought the HD-A1 for $400 and just got the PS3 for $400, I'm not disappointed at all. I'm actually confident in this machine.