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sub780lime · 08-21-2007, 11:51 PM

I am really interested in a list of DVD's that were dumped into the HD spectrum, but were not remastered or still have terrible tranfers. My focus is more so older titles since those tend to be the ones that would need remastering. What DVD's do you think are the worst examples of High Def content?

Derb · 08-21-2007, 11:57 PM

The Nutty Professor 2 isn't HD, yet Universal thinks it is.

Sehnzeleid · 08-21-2007, 11:59 PM

The 40 Year Old Virgin
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
The Jerk

Pirate · 08-22-2007, 12:08 AM

Are we talking about bad transfers or bad masters? That can be two very different things.

I think the prime example of a bad transfer would probably be The Fifth Element.

ganthc · 08-22-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by piratehunter

Are we talking about bad transfers or bad masters? That can be two very different things.

I think the prime example of a bad transfer would probably be The Fifth Element.

Well, since sub780lime is hd-dvd only, warning him about the now defunct TFE original release is pointless. He will need hd-dvd catalog titles only.

I saw that "In Good Company", "The Game", and "The Wedding Date" are titles to avoid from highdefdigest.

Pirate · 08-22-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ganthc

Well, since sub780lime is hd-dvd only, warning him about the now defunct TFE original release is pointless.

Well since he didn't mention any titles specifically, I thought he was asking a general question.

Derb · 08-22-2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ganthc

Well, since sub780lime is hd-dvd only, warning him about the now defunct TFE original release is pointless. He will need hd-dvd catalog titles only.

I saw that "In Good Company", "The Game", and "The Wedding Date" are titles to avoid from highdefdigest.

I agree with The Game & The Wedding Date.

In Good Company isn't that bad, or at least not in the same ballpark as the previous mentioned titles.

Think sub780lime is referring to transfer quality. If not,

Miami Vice

Pirate · 08-22-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Derb

Miami Vice

Again... I'll kill you.

Vonner · 08-22-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ganthc

I saw that "In Good Company"... are titles to avoid from highdefdigest.

I didn't think In Good Company was that bad. In fact I praised it over the up converted "The Prestige".

ganthc · 08-22-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vonner

I didn't think In Good Company was that bad. In fact I praised it over the up converted "The Prestige".

According to the review it was riddled with edge enhancement. I haven't seen it for myself, but it's in my queue.

videoworx · 08-22-2007, 02:01 AM

Excalibur. The reason I didn't become an EA of HD-DVD.

"The Dude" · 08-22-2007, 02:02 AM

Nacho Libre, Talladega Nights, T2 (BD) are 3 recent films that popped to my head first. T2 was a major disappointment for me, more so than TFE (first release).

I know it's an old title and I hate to list it because it's one of my favs, but the transfer on American Werewolf in London is really bad. There's no improvement at all over SD.

I watched this on IFC last friday night and the PQ that was on IFC seemed to look better than the HD-DVD.

plissken99 · 08-22-2007, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by videoworx

Excalibur. The reason I didn't become an EA of HD-DVD.

You cheated yourself truely. Though far from reference, it's ALOT better than the DVD, in color reproduction alone.

ganthc · 08-22-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by "The Dude"

Nacho Libre, Talladega Nights, T2 (BD) are 3 recent films that popped to my head first. T2 was a major disappointment for me, more so than TFE (first release).

I know it's an old title and I hate to list it because it's one of my favs, but the transfer on American Werewolf in London is really bad. There's no improvement at all over SD.

I watched this on IFC last friday night and the PQ that was on IFC seemed to look better than the HD-DVD.

Well, if we are going to bring up bd movies anyways, I might say that people dog T2's tranfer, but I didn't think it was that terrible, and nowhere near as bad as the original TFE. Then you have Stargate, and Total Recall as worse transfers than that. The non-freebie Taladega Nights, and T2 were not bad transfers compared to TFE, Stargate, and Total Recall.

Derb · 08-22-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ganthc

The non-freebie Taladega Nights, and T2 were not bad transfers compared to TFE, Stargate, and Total Recall.

That was a real let down.. Total Recall. If you squint, you might be lucky to see some HD

snipsnapsappy · 08-22-2007, 09:52 PM

I was watching Fellowship of the Ring last night. And I have never seen a single HD title look as bad as watching even a reference DVD upconverted.

Maybe it is because my HDTV is a 1080p LCD, which struggles with anything nonHD, but still.

The complete lack of detail on anything except for what is in the exact foreground is a staple of every DVD I have watched.

The only HD-DVD disc that I have seen that I thought was terrible, is The Perfect Storm. There was almost no detail in any shots. It looked like every shot was in movement, meaning the screen could never quite get a hold of what each pixel was supposed to show. But eventually I got over it and watched the movie.

sub780lime · 08-22-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ganthc

Well, since sub780lime is hd-dvd only, warning him about the now defunct TFE original release is pointless. He will need hd-dvd catalog titles only.

I saw that "In Good Company", "The Game", and "The Wedding Date" are titles to avoid from highdefdigest.

I am interested in both formats. I currently only have an HD-DVD player and HD-DVD's, but I have a whole wishlist of Blu-rays. I just am not ready to spend the money on a player.

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Originally Posted by piratehunter

Well since he didn't mention any titles specifically, I thought he was asking a general question.

Yes, more general

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Originally Posted by Derb

Think sub780lime is referring to transfer quality. If not,

I guess i am interested in both, whether it still sucks because of the original master or it sucks worse because the transfer was so bad, I just want to know it sucks.

ganthc · 08-23-2007, 06:12 AM

I still have yet to see it, but I did see it on display, and "Hitch" also looked really bad on bd. Ignore the TFE original, and just get the remaster, and you should have a good disc on your hands.

I might also add that even with the bad transfers, these titles do tend to have great sound via PCM, at least on the bd side, with the exception of "Total Recall", and "Stargate." I would also add "The Big Hit", and "Species" got a bad review.

MooglePorn · 08-23-2007, 10:27 AM

I thought T2 on BD was a great transfer... I guess that's why I'm not an "enthusiast"...

ganthc · 08-23-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MooglePorn

I thought T2 on BD was a great transfer... I guess that's why I'm not an "enthusiast"...

You're not the only one. Highdefdigest gave it 4 stars on video quality, and 4.5 on audio. There was grain, but it wasn't intrusive at all. I thought it had a nice pop to it in many scenes.

08-21-2007, 11:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
sub780lime Can't Spell Bilbo Join Date: May 2002 Location: A Galaxy Far Far Away	Non-Remastered High Definition DVD's I am really interested in a list of DVD's that were dumped into the HD spectrum, but were not remastered or still have terrible tranfers. My focus is more so older titles since those tend to be the ones that would need remastering. What DVD's do you think are the worst examples of High Def content? __________________ love comes and goes, but an avatar . . . that's forever. - Pirate

08-21-2007, 11:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
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08-22-2007, 12:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pirate Moderator Emeritus Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	Are we talking about bad transfers or bad masters? That can be two very different things. I think the prime example of a bad transfer would probably be The Fifth Element. __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

08-22-2007, 02:01 AM	#11 (permalink)
videoworx Would Make a Good Incubus Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere near Nebraska	Excalibur. The reason I didn't become an EA of HD-DVD. __________________ And let’s not forget the fact that Tron turned the Frisbee into an instrument of righteous smiting.

08-22-2007, 02:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
"The Dude" Actor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Salt Lake, UT	Nacho Libre, Talladega Nights, T2 (BD) are 3 recent films that popped to my head first. T2 was a major disappointment for me, more so than TFE (first release). I know it's an old title and I hate to list it because it's one of my favs, but the transfer on American Werewolf in London is really bad. There's no improvement at all over SD. I watched this on IFC last friday night and the PQ that was on IFC seemed to look better than the HD-DVD. __________________ "This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!"- Walter Sobcheik in the sanitized Big Lewbowski

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Sehnzeleid Actor Join Date: Jul 2006	The 40 Year Old Virgin Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind The Jerk

08-22-2007, 09:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
snipsnapsappy Actor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Shell Beach, CA, USA	I was watching Fellowship of the Ring last night. And I have never seen a single HD title look as bad as watching even a reference DVD upconverted. Maybe it is because my HDTV is a 1080p LCD, which struggles with anything nonHD, but still. The complete lack of detail on anything except for what is in the exact foreground is a staple of every DVD I have watched. The only HD-DVD disc that I have seen that I thought was terrible, is The Perfect Storm. There was almost no detail in any shots. It looked like every shot was in movement, meaning the screen could never quite get a hold of what each pixel was supposed to show. But eventually I got over it and watched the movie. __________________ I balked, now the proud owner of both formats. I am now bi-partisan. I enjoy what both red and blue have to offer. My Theater MySpace

08-23-2007, 06:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
ganthc Actor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: "Vyenna", VA	I still have yet to see it, but I did see it on display, and "Hitch" also looked really bad on bd. Ignore the TFE original, and just get the remaster, and you should have a good disc on your hands. I might also add that even with the bad transfers, these titles do tend to have great sound via PCM, at least on the bd side, with the exception of "Total Recall", and "Stargate." I would also add "The Big Hit", and "Species" got a bad review. __________________ HOOK'EM!!! UT LONGHORNS - National Champs 2005-2006!!! http://ganthc.youaremighty.com

08-23-2007, 10:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
MooglePorn Actor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA	I thought T2 on BD was a great transfer... I guess that's why I'm not an "enthusiast"...

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