BD owners help me out!

[Ruined]

Please post the following if you could:

Which of your BD discs are MPEG2-encoded?
Which of your BD discs have no popup menus?

[Sehnzeleid]

I don't think I have any BDs without a pop-up menu.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Sehnzeleid

I don't think I have any BDs without a pop-up menu.

I know "Click" doesn't have one. In fact, it had one of the worst static DVD menus I've seen. Or, at least on a profile 1.0 standalone I tested it on at the time (Panasonic DMP-BD10).

[umainebearman]

So there are BR disks that the menu doesn't lay over the movie as you play it? Hmm what would Moog say here.... oh right.


LAME!

[MooglePorn]

Originally Posted by Sehnzeleid

I don't think I have any BDs without a pop-up menu.

I don't think I have any that do...

[videoworx]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Please post the following if you could:

Which of your BD discs are MPEG2-encoded?
Which of your BD discs have no popup menus?

Forgive me if I don't assist someone who has done nothing but piss all over Blu-Ray for the last 18 months.

[elfman]

Originally Posted by videoworx

Forgive me if I don't assist someone who has done nothing buy piss all over Blu-Ray for the last 18 months.

Ahh, gracious in victory I see!

[Vonner]

Originally Posted by videoworx

Forgive me if I don't assist someone who has done nothing buy piss all over Blu-Ray for the last 18 months.

Ahhh, come on now...

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by videoworx

Forgive me if I don't assist someone who has done nothing buy piss all over Blu-Ray for the last 18 months.

Hey, Hold the phone. He took a stand and may have been a bit tough on the BD folk but "piss all over us" I dunno about that.

Ruined, I think I have one but I need to check

F

[Derb]

There are a few BD discs which do not have a pop up menu.

Click is not one of them.

Early Lionsgate, Sony & a handful of Warner discs are Mpeg-2

20th Century Fox still uses Mpeg-2


OT

I checked out War's PIP & the PS3 handles it well. There are 2 PIP on it actually. If you toggle the PIP on/off the film doesn't take you back to the beginning of the film ala Paramount & Warner PIPs

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Derb

There are a few BD discs which do not have a pop up menu.

Click is not one of them.

Do you own Click? I remember when I was playing around on it on the Panasonic DMP-BD10 it had this incredibly ugly static scene selection menu ala a DVD with poor authoring.

Early Lionsgate, Sony & a handful of Warner discs are Mpeg-2

I noticed most of the 2006 Lionsgate releases are MPEG2 and most pre-Casino Royale Sony discs.

20th Century Fox still uses Mpeg-2

Really? Which discs? I know there was a recent Fox announcement which denoted MPEG2 on a bunch of titles, but I heard that was just a mixup.

I checked out War's PIP & the PS3 handles it well. There are 2 PIP on it actually. If you toggle the PIP on/off the film doesn't take you back to the beginning of the film ala Paramount & Warner PIPs

I had just heard WAR had an issue similar to T3 with 1080i video when PiP was engaged or something, IIRC. Some complaint like that.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by videoworx

Forgive me if I don't assist someone who has done nothing but piss all over Blu-Ray for the last 18 months.

War is over, move on - I did.

[jriseden]

Originally Posted by Ruined

War is over, move on - I did.

haha, It still feels weird to see Ruined not bashing the hell out of blu-ray. I'm not going to hold a grudge, but it is going to take some getting used to Ruined 2.0.

[Mr. Furious]

BluRay sucks.

Everyone happy?

I can't believe you guys are making a stink out of the fact that Ruined is looking to make the move. He has ALWAYS made it clear that his first priority was the presentation and offerings of the movies, not the HD media. He recognizes that BD will become the dominant format, so there is no point in arguing its weaknesses any longer. No one is expecting BD owners to kiss his ass, but some of the postings in here make me wonder if BD owners were only interested in the technology.

Frankly, it's really disappointing because I always felt the 'File was made up of like minded individuals who loved movies, but just disagreed on the formats. This last week's worth of Ruined bashing makes me think that it's more about rubbing another film buff's face in it than it is about welcoming more BD owners to the fold. If that’s the case, why don't we take turns lining up and hitting him with a rolled up newspaper? I'm sure he deserves that for not siding with Sony.

[biglyle]

I AGREE 100%. Ruined always presented his case fairly and tried his best to ensure things stayed civil. Never did he call anyone "sheep" or the like, he simply stated what he whole heartedly believed to be true. When Warner switched, he promptly declared "its over". This couldnt have been easy, but I for one commend him on how quick he stood up and made it clear. Seems like a good guy to me, to judge him on his media player preference seems a little silly.


On a related note. I hated Sony and in many ways still do. However this PS3 is fast becoming my favorite HT component I have ever owned. Damn thing is an amazing unit in every aspect.

[Taxi]

The forum is made up of a variety of folks. You can't expect them all to behave with perfect civility.

It's a sign of the times I think. To some, it's "cool" to be rude. Yay for them.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Do you own Click? I remember when I was playing around on it on the Panasonic DMP-BD10 it had this incredibly ugly static scene selection menu ala a DVD with poor authoring.

Yes. Have not watched it in awhile. I remember the pop-up on it though because the style of it matched the film. I believe the image is on the right side of the screen, or left. Crap its been a long time sinse I thrown that title on.

Originally Posted by Ruined

I noticed most of the 2006 Lionsgate releases are MPEG2 and most pre-Casino Royale Sony discs.

Crank & The Decent release dates were around the switch from mpeg-2 to either AVC or VC-1. Sony's first was the animated Open Season.

Originally Posted by Ruined

Really? Which discs? I know there was a recent Fox announcement which denoted MPEG2 on a bunch of titles, but I heard that was just a mixup.

I watched Home of the Brave recently & I checked out the release date. (late October), so I dunno if they are getting rid of Mpeg-2 or not on future releases Fox has released a mixed bag of both AVC & Mpeg-2 discs so far. You at least can see the codec on the packaging before you buy. Only one packaging error though. I'll have to check to find out which disc had the codec packaging error but I think it was a good error ala AVC.

Originally Posted by Ruined

I had just heard WAR had an issue similar to T3 with 1080i video when PiP was engaged or something, IIRC. Some complaint like that.

After seeing my set display 1080i on T3 clicking on the remote, I did the same for War. It displays 1080p.

[supercutz]

Originally Posted by videoworx

Forgive me if I don't assist someone who has done nothing but piss all over Blu-Ray for the last 18 months.

Forgive and forget, dude.

[sub780lime]

Ruined didn't blatantly bash BD without including sources and some kind of proof. He did what a good litigator would do, leave out those things that might hurt your case. Some times he was over the top, but just, because he was such a clear supporter doesn't mean he should get railed on for it. Wouldn't you rail on him more if he didn't admit it was over and wasn't willing to embrace what has come about. He would be in denial, continue preaching the benefits of HD-DVD and shouting years down the road that BD never should have one in the first place. Hell, I think he has handled things quite well.

[videoworx]

The purpose of this thread is so Ruined can point out what he feels are inferior BDs - as he's so resolutely pointed out how he hates static menus and Mpeg-2 encoding. He hasn't embraced Blu-Ray, merely shrugged off a format he convinced many users here would overthrow the "evil Sony empire."

I'm not being rude, just stating the incredibly obvious.

[biglyle]

Originally Posted by videoworx

The purpose of this thread is so Ruined can point out what he feels are inferior BDs - as he's so resolutely pointed out how he hates static menus and Mpeg-2 encoding. He hasn't embraced Blu-Ray, merely shrugged off a format he convinced many users here would overthrow the "evil Sony empire."

I'm not being rude, just stating the incredibly obvious.

Why do I keep hearing the "twilight Zone" theme

[El Lancito]

Originally Posted by videoworx

Forgive me if I don't assist someone who has done nothing but piss all over Blu-Ray for the last 18 months.

I don't think that's a fair comment. Could Ruined be accused of being overzealously in favor of HD-DVD? Sure. I never saw it as "pissing" on Blu-Ray so much as praising the benefits of HD-DVD versus Blu-Ray.

[venetian blinds]

"Forgive me if I don't assist someone who has done nothing but piss all over Blu-Ray for the last 18 months."

Wow, does he really need to know you dont want to help him? Or you want other people to know? I dont understand the point of your post, other then to display the fact that your an ass.

[Iguana Man]

This whole thread is sad. The bullshit hate is pathetic. Fuck. You silly people.

And Vonner, damn you for finding a better video clip of that song than me.

Love!

[ganthc]

Originally Posted by biglyle

On a related note. I hated Sony and in many ways still do. However this PS3 is fast becoming my favorite HT component I have ever owned. Damn thing is an amazing unit in every aspect.

It really is an amazing piece of equipment.

[ganthc]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Please post the following if you could:

Which of your BD discs are MPEG2-encoded?
Which of your BD discs have no popup menus?

I think if you comb through the high def digest bluray reviews, you can find all the mpeg2 encodes and menu defects you want. I haven't seen any movies without a popup menu. It's been a long time since I saw Click, and I think I would have remembered if it was sans menu. At the very least, there probably aren't many to count in that category. Most early bd movies are in mpeg 2, so your list will be long. However, there were some great transfers done in mpeg2...as well as some stinkers.