Universal shifts to DTS-HD MA on Blu-ray!

[ganthc]

Originally Posted by sambow87

I don't care about what the track name actually is. As long as it sounds great. Why have we switched that? I just don't understand. Oh.....it's not lossless but it sounds awesome....i'm so disappointed.

Just like bit-rates. Who the hell cares?

Some could argue that who cares if movies are in 1080p. They would look great in 720p, so why have 1080p hdtvs or encodes? Accepting less means that studios can easily deliver that. I applaud Universal for embracing lossless via DTS-HDMA. I think that it will improve on the audio experiences for the movies. I would be interested to pick up the first two Bourne movies or Serenity and see how a lossless track improves the movie experience.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by ganthc

Some could argue that who cares if movies are in 1080p. They would look great in 720p, so why have 1080p hdtvs or encodes? Accepting less means that studios can easily deliver that. I applaud Universal for embracing lossless via DTS-HDMA. I think that it will improve on the audio experiences for the movies. I would be interested to pick up the first two Bourne movies or Serenity and see how a lossless track improves the movie experience.

Amen to that.

I always hear or read from others that picture is the only important thing about HD. Xcuse me.. but Fuck That!

[biglyle]

Originally Posted by ganthc

Serenity and see how a lossless track improves the movie experience.

Everytime I think of Serenity and a lossless track my dick moves a little. I think it likes it

I so love this movie.

[sambow87]

Originally Posted by ganthc

Some could argue that who cares if movies are in 1080p. They would look great in 720p, so why have 1080p hdtvs or encodes? Accepting less means that studios can easily deliver that. I applaud Universal for embracing lossless via DTS-HDMA. I think that it will improve on the audio experiences for the movies. I would be interested to pick up the first two Bourne movies or Serenity and see how a lossless track improves the movie experience.

Ok, valid point and I agree. I had written a whole other paragraph, but it's a little useless now. I guess I'll have to wait and compare the movies when they are re-released by Universal.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by ganthc

Some could argue that who cares if movies are in 1080p. They would look great in 720p, so why have 1080p hdtvs or encodes? Accepting less means that studios can easily deliver that. I applaud Universal for embracing lossless via DTS-HDMA. I think that it will improve on the audio experiences for the movies. I would be interested to pick up the first two Bourne movies or Serenity and see how a lossless track improves the movie experience.

The difference is that 720p vs 1080p is very obvious on a big screen, while the difference between DTS 1.5mbps and DTS-HDMA is minimal even on my $10,000+ sound system. Its nice to have, but in terms of audible output it really doesn't improve the end sound output significantly IMO.

[ganthc]

Originally Posted by Ruined

The difference is that 720p vs 1080p is very obvious on a big screen, while the difference between DTS 1.5mbps and DTS-HDMA is minimal even on my $10,000+ sound system. Its nice to have, but in terms of audible output it really doesn't improve the end sound output significantly IMO.

The analogy still works. Why should we have to settle for less? We shouldn't, so having lossless audio becoming a standard for former HD-DVD studios is fantastic.

[Derb]

Most of the later Universal HD DVDs which offered TrueHD + Dolby Plus, I spent around 30 minutes just searching for audible differences. In the end I gave those select titles the same rating for both codecs. Toshiba was never really a great player for TrueHD without cranking up your system. Anyways, it will be interesting to hear some dts-HDMA tracks on Blu-Ray that are already out for HD DVD to do some comparisons.

[ganthc]

Originally Posted by Derb

Most of the later Universal HD DVDs which offered TrueHD + Dolby Plus, I spent around 30 minutes just searching for audible differences. In the end I gave those select titles the same rating for both codecs. Toshiba was never really a great player for TrueHD without cranking up your system. Anyways, it will be interesting to hear some dts-HDMA tracks on Blu-Ray that are already out for HD DVD to do some comparisons.

Did you test the Bourne Ultimatum disc? Granted, I'm sure lossless on "The Last Starfighter" and "Fletch" isn't worlds different than the dd+ track, and a lot of the Universal TrueHD tracks were on older titles. And the ones on newer titles tended to not be on the bigger releases but on quieter tracks. So American Gangster didn't get one, but Evening did.

[plissken99]

Originally Posted by ganthc

The analogy still works. Why should we have to settle for less? We shouldn't, so having lossless audio becoming a standard for former HD-DVD studios is fantastic.

Indeed, with 50gb discs they don't usually even fill up, there is no reason for lossless audio not to be the standard, none at all.

[Ruined]

Yep, on Blu-ray you might as well use it since you got it. I was just saying the difference is minimal, much smaller than the difference between 720p and 1080p for instance.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by ganthc

Did you test the Bourne Ultimatum disc?

Yes.

I gave both codecs the same rating cause honestly dynamic range & channel placement were identical. LFE may have been stronger with the DD+ track but not enough to warrant a higher score.