Spike Lee- Miracle At St. Anna

[furthest1]

A friend just sent me the new trailer to Spike Lee's new "joint". I think it's pretty awesome that he directing a WW2 movie, that also has some present day twist/mystery added in. That trailer is pretty awesome, the song in the 2nd half with the running and explosions.... 5 stars of awesome.

Trailer

[umainebearman]

First movie from Spike Lee that actually looks watchable. However it is Spike Lee so it'll have all kinds of up lifting corny dialog like that "Feel that magic... all you got ta do is believe it." wow yeah that was some good writing there. Also the stiff delivery of "I don't know how the hell we got passed german lines...". The music was good though.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by umainebearman

First movie from Spike Lee that actually looks watchable. However it is Spike Lee so it'll have all kinds of up lifting corny dialog like that "Feel that magic... all you got ta do is believe it." wow yeah that was some good writing there. Also the stiff delivery of "I don't know how the hell we got passed german lines...". The music was good though.

Not.

Malcolm X
25th Hour
Do The Right Thing
School Daze
Clockers
Inside Man

I have never seen a Spike Lee movie where they has a 'Feel that magic ... all you gotta do is believe it' message that you are talking about. Maybe you should try watching one of his movies instead of stereotyping it. You MAY, I stress MAY, be able to learn something.

[umainebearman]

Originally Posted by bootsy

I have never seen a Spike Lee movie where they has a 'Feel that magic ... all you gotta do is believe it' message that you are talking about. Maybe you should try watching one of his movies instead of stereotyping it. You MAY, I stress MAY, be able to learn something.

Uhh it was in the trailer that was posted by furthest. Direct quote from it.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by umainebearman

Uhh it was in the trailer that was posted by furthest. Direct quote from it.

Exactly in the trailer for a movie you haven't seen and yet you are already throwing it under the bus because of who it was directed by.

[plissken99]

25th Hour and Inside Man had their moments, the rest of his stuff is crap. Badly directed, stiff acting, and pretentiousness(comes on strong the second you see the film refered to as a 'joint' in the opening credits) are just a few of the symptoms his movies suffer from. This one actually does look pretty interesting though

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by plissken99

25th Hour and Inside Man had their moments, the rest of his stuff is crap. Badly directed, stiff acting, and pretentiousness(comes on strong the second you see the film refered to as a 'joint' in the opening credits) are just a few of the symptoms his movies suffer from. This one actually does look pretty interesting though

Oh boy, the rest of his stuff is not crap. Please. Do The Right Thing and Malcolm X are two of the best movies of the last 25-30 years. How can you say Denzel in Malcolm X, Danny Aiello in Do The Right Thing, Edward Norton in 25th is stiff acting? Are you kidding me? I don't think so. Do The Right Thing, Inside Man badly directed? I think you and the other guy just have a little bit of hate in you towards Spike for some reason and refuse to give him props. Spike has had a pretty good career.

[plissken99]

Ah the old, "you don't like Spike's so you must hate him because he's black" card, no some people are just no talent egotistacle assholes. Gotta love an ego so big he decided to try and sue Spike TV for stealing his name. I said 25th Hour had it's moments, that would be thanks to Ed Norton. Malcom X should have been great, but sadly isn't. Spike is among the most overrated filmmakers working today.

[umainebearman]

Originally Posted by plissken99

Ah the old, "you don't like Spike's so you must hate him because he's black" card, no some people are just no talent egotistacle assholes. Gotta love an ego so big he decided to try and sue Spike TV for stealing his name. I said 25th Hour had it's moments, that would be thanks to Ed Norton. Malcom X should have been great, but sadly isn't. Spike is among the most overrated filmmakers working today.

Yep he thinks he's the only reason black actors get any work. He should stick to the side lines at the Knicks games. It's definitely not because he's black, I'd much rather watch a John Singleton movie than a Spike Lee movie. Singleton doesn't feel the need to make every single one of his movies one that will change the world.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by plissken99

Ah the old, "you don't like Spike's so you must hate him because he's black" card, no some people are just no talent egotistacle assholes. Gotta love an ego so big he decided to try and sue Spike TV for stealing his name. I said 25th Hour had it's moments, that would be thanks to Ed Norton. Malcom X should have been great, but sadly isn't. Spike is among the most overrated filmmakers working today.

Ah the old, "you are assuming that I said you hate Spike because he's black" card. You fell right into that trap. That tell's me where your mind is at.

I noticed how you left out Denzel's performance in Malcolm but I might by accused of saying something I am not. You probably never even watched the entire movie and if you did then you can't leave out Denzel's performance. One of the best ever.

You are letting your personal feelings of Spike get in the way of his directing movies kind of like you are with Miracle at St. Anna. You are already going with a negative mentality because he tried to sue Spike TV. You need to separate that from his movies but I see you have a hard time doing that and umainbearman definitely has this same problem.

That's the problem with a lot of people that don't like Spike Lee. They can't separate his controversies from his talent and his movies. I don't care what your personal feelings are you have to admit that this guy makes some pretty good movies. I am not saying he is perfect because he had some bad ones too but give the man his due.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by umainebearman

Yep he thinks he's the only reason black actors get any work. He should stick to the side lines at the Knicks games. It's definitely not because he's black, I'd much rather watch a John Singleton movie than a Spike Lee movie. Singleton doesn't feel the need to make every single one of his movies one that will change the world.

That's a serious problem. Yeah Singleton doesn't feel the need to make every single on of movies to change the world because he lacks vision to make a movie like that. Boyz N Tha Hood is his best and only good movie. He hasn't come close to making another movie like that while Spike has made good movies for over 20 years. I am not saying Spike has made missteps but to say you would rather watch Singleton's movies over Lee's is ridiculous. I know that is your opinion but it is not an opinion shared by many.

[plissken99]

Originally Posted by bootsy

Ah the old, "you are assuming that I said you hate Spike because he's black" card. You fell right into that trap. That tell's me where your mind is at.

I noticed how you left out Denzel's performance in Malcolm but I might by accused of saying something I am not. You probably never even watched the entire movie and if you did then you can't leave out Denzel's performance. One of the best ever.

You are letting your personal feelings of Spike get in the way of his directing movies kind of like you are with Miracle at St. Anna. You are already going with a negative mentality because he tried to sue Spike TV. You need to separate that from his movies but I see you have a hard time doing that and umainbearman definitely has this same problem.

That's the problem with a lot of people that don't like Spike Lee. They can't separate his controversies from his talent and his movies. I don't care what your personal feelings are you have to admit that this guy makes some pretty good movies. I am not saying he is perfect because he had some bad ones too but give the man his due.

Lol, no dude you let ME know where your mind was at when you accused me having "a little bit of hate in you", which can only mean one thing coming from a die hard Spike Lee fan. So yeah you can just fuck right off there.

Denzel is a continually awesome actor, easily outclasses 95% of the actors in the buisness today. And the only movies of his I don't like are Spike Lee movies. I could maybe overlook Spike's personal repulsivness if his movies were good, but they aren't, so, I can't.

I am looking forward to Miracle at St. Anna actually. 25th Hour was watchable, Inside Man was better(though you gotta love than turban crap that takes you out of the movie), so by that logic this one should be his best yet... hopefully.

[plissken99]

Originally Posted by bootsy

That's a serious problem. Yeah Singleton doesn't feel the need to make every single on of movies to change the world because he lacks vision to make a movie like that.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by plissken99

Lol, no dude you let ME know where your mind was at when you accused me having "a little bit of hate in you", which can only mean one thing coming from a die hard Spike Lee fan. So yeah you can just fuck right off there.

Denzel is a continually awesome actor, easily outclasses 95% of the actors in the buisness today. And the only movies of his I don't like are Spike Lee movies. I could maybe overlook Spike's personal repulsivness if his movies were good, but they aren't, so, I can't.

I am looking forward to Miracle at St. Anna actually. 25th Hour was watchable, Inside Man was better(though you gotta love than turban crap that takes you out of the movie), so by that logic this one should be his best yet... hopefully.

Uh no, I told you have hate for him not because you hate him because he is black. You obviously hate the dude for something, maybe the Spike TV thing or something else

You contradict yourself. You say he doesn't make good movies, he is one of the overrated directors yet you are looking forward to Miracle at St. Anna a movie directed by a director you don't like and who you think hasn't made a good film yet. So what makes this one different. I mean the guy makes terrible movie, unwatchable movies so you are looking FORWARD to this one. WTF. Makes zero sense.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by plissken99

Singleton tried and failed miserably with Higher Learning, Rosewood, etc. I guess you can roll your eyes on those ground breaking movies.

[plissken99]

Originally Posted by bootsy

Uh no, I told you have hate for him not because you hate him because he is black. You obviously hate the dude for something, maybe the Spike TV thing or something else

You contradict yourself. You say he doesn't make good movies, he is one of the overrated directors yet you are looking forward to Miracle at St. Anna a movie directed by a director you don't like and who you think hasn't made a good film yet. So what makes this one different. I mean the guy makes terrible movie, unwatchable movies so you are looking FORWARD to this one. WTF. Makes zero sense.

Hate is a strong word, but basically I don't like him because he makes crappy self important movies, and is a self important ego maniac.

He is overrated, and his films are historically bad, except the last two have gotten slightly better. Yet I am looking forward to St. Anna's becase I have whats called an 'open mind', look into that. Likewise Mel Gibsons passion of the Christ was bad, and his little drunken anti semetic episode makes me respect him a lot less, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy his other movies. Same is true of Spike, but reverse the ratio, he has two ok movies vs a career of crap.

So sorry if I'm not black and white enough to fit into one of your mental catagories. And Singleton has more directoral talent in his left nut than Spike Lee btw.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by plissken99

Hate is a strong word, but basically I don't like him because he makes crappy self important movies, and is a self important ego maniac.

He is overrated, and his films are historically bad, except the last two have gotten slightly better. Yet I am looking forward to St. Anna's becase I have whats called an 'open mind', look into that. Likewise Mel Gibsons passion of the Christ was bad, and his little drunken anti semetic episode makes me respect him a lot less, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy his other movies. Same is true of Spike, but reverse the ratio, he has two ok movies vs a career of crap.
So sorry if I'm not black and white enough to fit into one of your mental catagories. And Singleton has more directoral talent in his left nut than Spike Lee btw.

The guy made one of the best movies of the last 30 years.

John Singleton doesn't have shit. You mean to tell me Rosewood, Higher Learning, Shaft, Baby Boy, 2 Fast 2 Furious, Poetic Justice were really good movies compared to Malcolm X, Do The Right Thing, 25th Hour, Inside Man, Jungle Fever, School Daze. I know this is your opinion but good lord please feel free to defend yourself and tell me how Singleton is a better director than Spike Lee. You haven't given me that reason yet. John Singleton fumbled away a promising career with Boyz N The Hood and still hasn't recovered.

The only thing Singleton did with those movies is give music artists(Tyrese, Ice Cube, janet Jackson, 2 Pac) a reason to act. Yuck you can have Singleton and keep him to yourself. He is terrible.

[raptors661]

Is that you, Spike Lee?
I think this looks like crap. The only movie of his that i liked is Inside Man.

[plissken99]

Originally Posted by bootsy

I know this is your opinion but good lord please feel free to defend yourself and tell me how Singleton is a better director than Spike Lee.

Singleton can make movies that aren't weighed down by their own sense of self importance so much that they drown in their own vomit/pretentiousnous. His movies are better paced, better acted and generally better excecuted. This is the end of the conversation, you have your opinion, and I have mine.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by raptors661

Is that you, Spike Lee?
I think this looks like crap. The only movie of his that i liked is Inside Man.

No it's your momma. That's probably the only movie that you were allowed to see.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by plissken99

Singleton can make movies that aren't weighed down by their own sense of self importance so much that they drown in their own vomit/pretentiousnous. His movies are better paced, better acted and generally better excecuted. This is the end of the conversation, you have your opinion, and I have mine.

I know for sure that you smoke serious crack or some kind of drugs after this statement. Better acted?
What movie was that?
John Singleton makes crap. Your opinion of Singleton being a better director than Lee is way in the minority. This guy has not come close to topping his debut movie. He will probably botch The A Team too. That is one of my favorite TV shows and he will probably find some way to mess it up.

[raptors661]

Originally Posted by bootsy

No it's your momma. That's probably the only movie that you were allowed to see.

Yep. This sounds like Spike Lee.

[plissken99]

Originally Posted by bootsy

I know for sure that you smoke serious crack or some kind of drugs after this statement. Better acted?
What movie was that?
John Singleton makes crap. Your opinion of Singleton being a better director than Lee is way in the minority. This guy has not come close to topping his debut movie. He will probably botch The A Team too. That is one of my favorite TV shows and he will probably find some way to mess it up.

If thinking Spike Lee is better is the majority, than like usual the majority are fucktards lol. Lee's films suffer bad acting the same way Star Wars movies do, awesome cast, but the director sucks and offers no 'direction' for them. As I said earlier, you think I'm a tard, and I definitly think your a tard, the end.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by plissken99

If thinking Spike Lee is better is the majority, than like usual the majority are fucktards lol. Lee's films suffer bad acting the same way Star Wars movies do, awesome cast, but the director sucks and offers no 'direction' for them. As I said earlier, you think I'm a tard, and I definitly think your a tard, the end.

Again you keep saying bad acting but have yet to give me good acting from Singleton's movies beside Boyz N THe Hood. Give me some of this ground breaking performances from his movies that had good acting, good direction that you talked about.

I don't get how you want to see this movie and you say Lee is such a bad director. That doesn't make any sense on any level.

OMG you have some bad analogies. Star Wars? I need to leave this thread. You, the little kid raptors661 and that maine guy have some scary thoughts running through your heads. Star Wars? WTF LOL.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by raptors661

Yep. This sounds like Spike Lee.

Go to bed little kid you bring nothing to this conversation.

[raptors661]

Originally Posted by bootsy

OMG you have some bad analogies. Star Wars? I need to leave this thread. You, the little kid raptors661 and that maine guy have some scary thoughts running through your heads. Star Wars? WTF LOL.

Originally Posted by bootsy

Go to bed little kid you bring nothing to this conversation.

I see you listen to yourself, old man.