Official DVDR thread - Page 4

videoworx · 08-18-2004, 09:01 PM

well, 2 notes here - I have a DMR-E60, which is similar to the 55, and I love it. Never tried the Pioneer recorder, so i can't tell you anything about it...

now, a friend of mine has the Panasonic DMR-80 model, which has a hard drive. The discs it burns can NOT be played in my Pioneer DVR-105 drive (my internal PC DVD burner). Which is odd, because MY Panasonic can...maybe he uses shitty media, I don't know, but take that any way you want.

btw, my local tweeter store just cleared out its store inventory, they were the selling Pioneer recorder with the Tivo for $399 (it sells for a LOT more than that).

tomdkat · 08-18-2004, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by videoworx

well, 2 notes here - I have a DMR-E60, which is similar to the 55, and I love it.

Great! Have you noticed any quirks when burning DVD-R discs at all or is it a pretty straight foward process?

Peace...

videoworx · 08-18-2004, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Great! Have you noticed any quirks when burning DVD-R discs at all or is it a pretty straight foward process?

well, if you're someone who was stumped at programming the clock on a VCR, then you may have problems - but for the most part, stand-alone recorders are idiot-proof. You don't get to make fancy menus, and you can't edit footage(unless you use DVD-RAM on the Panasonic models), and chapter stops are made whenever you start a new recording.

I would definitely recommend brand-name media, especially if you are going to buy a Pioneer recorder...

tomdkat · 08-18-2004, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by videoworx

well, if you're someone who was stumped at programming the clock on a VCR, then you may have problems - but for the most part, stand-alone recorders are idiot-proof. You don't get to make fancy menus, and you can't edit footage(unless you use DVD-RAM on the Panasonic models), and chapter stops are made whenever you start a new recording.

Great!

Quote:

I would definitely recommend brand-name media, especially if you are going to buy a Pioneer recorder...

Thanks for the link. How does one know what kind of drive is in one of these standalone burners?

Peace...

***chlngr1970*** · 09-10-2004, 08:26 AM

Tom, talk to me when we get together about getting a burner...

On to MY question...

Does any body know of a program that can author DVDs in 16:9 Anamorphic? I finaly got my Dual layer burner, and would like to make some DVDs for my future WS display...

j

**aintnosin** · 09-10-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chlngr1970

Tom, talk to me when we get together about getting a burner...

On to MY question...

Does any body know of a program that can author DVDs in 16:9 Anamorphic? I finaly got my Dual layer burner, and would like to make some DVDs for my future WS display...

j

Pinnacle Studio 9 can do it. So can Sonic MyDVD v6.

videoworx · 09-10-2004, 06:26 PM

I highly recommend Adobe Encore for the PC, and DVD Studio Pro for the mac...

Icon769 · 09-12-2004, 05:17 AM

I'd like to know what type of device do I need to transfer old vhs of tv shows, or home movies onto dvds. Is it a recorder that gets installed in the computer, or is it something that resembles a dvd/vcr player? Any recommendations? I'm completely new to the transfering my vhs to dvds.

Icon769 · 09-21-2004, 02:16 AM

Anyone?

videoworx · 09-21-2004, 03:02 AM

I think this has been answered about 8 MILLLLIIIOOOON times in this thread, but it boils down to 2 options:

A. If you are not computer savvy, get a stand-alone DVD recorder. Panasonic makes a great model for around $350 (DMR-E55S). You can record up to 2 hours per DVD-R, or 4 hours on a double-sided DVD-RAM disc (ram discs can only be played in panasonic players).
You can record more per dvd, but the quality will degrade significantly, especially if the source material is VHS (chroma noise produced by VHS will cause lots o' artifacting at low bitrate recording settings).

Next year, stand-alone dual-layer dvd recorders will be out (it's pronounced "DVD+R-DL" right now, but i'm sure some marketing genius will call it "SUPER-DVD" or something), allowing 4 hours on a dvd that can be played on any dvd player.

B. If you are competent with PC's and software, you will want to avoid the cheap best buy garbage that says it can do everything with a touch of a button using a USB cable. This produces crap that will look worse than your original VHS tapes, and DVD's that won't play properly on some dvd players.

step 1. buy a dvd burner. Pioneer's DVR-108 is an excellent burner, and can burn dual-layer media (currently, DL discs costs just under $9 each). NEC makes a great alternative model. Both drives are around $85 online. Single-layer burners are about $20 cheaper. Spend the extra.

step 2. buy an analog-firewire converter box. Canopus makes the best bang-for-the-buck model (ADVC-100). ADSTECH also makes one that bundles the software you will also need (see below). Costs vary from $150-600 depending on what you get. If the box doesn't come with a firewire PCI card, and your PC doesn't have one, you will need to buy one. $15 with cable online anywhere.

step 3. buy Adobe Premiere. Editing software is vital in cleaning up home movies, especially VHS. Premiere Pro 1.5 can clean up chroma noise with a single click, and can burn edited video to a DVD with another click (something final cut can not do, mac-users note). Premiere by itself costs $699, but you can get it for less if you buy in the ADSTECH bundle mentioned above (the bundle, with the hardware, and far more software costs $550-599 online). Educational version is $299, so if you know someone in school - get them to buy it.

That's it. Now, some might consider the PC route overkill, but if you spend anything less, and don't devote the time in learning editing software - this isn't for you. Get the cheapy Panasonic burner and you will be very happy.

btw, Sam's Club has a killer deal on blank dvd-r's right now. 50 8x Verbatim's in a spindle for $29.98 - can't beat that anywhere else (generic media is cheaper, but should never be used for archival stuff - data tends to float away on those things).

***chlngr1970*** · 11-18-2005, 02:35 AM

Thought I would revive this thread a bit. I picked up a Toshiba RX-TS20 for a heck of a deal, and will be testing it out this weekend. Anybody know if you can use the network ability of the TIVO to edit stuff saved to be burned later?

Just curious

j

Dilmo · 11-21-2005, 10:09 PM

Pioneer DVD-R question. This is my third brand I have tried out, and I have to be doing something wrong. Let's see if I can explain it. The playback of pre-recorded discs is great. It's the recording part that has be baffled. When the signal goes through the recorder, it becomes very smooth, almost blurry. I have it hooked up with component video cables to my Toshiba HDTV. I have the recorder set to progressive, but interlace almost looks better. I only use the L1 input in. How can I sharpen this up to the quality of the original source. Please help. Thank you.

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Icon769 Unique. Just like the other 768. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Southern CA	I'd like to know what type of device do I need to transfer old vhs of tv shows, or home movies onto dvds. Is it a recorder that gets installed in the computer, or is it something that resembles a dvd/vcr player? Any recommendations? I'm completely new to the transfering my vhs to dvds. __________________ Help me find Dr. Light! My Collection l Best & Worst Movies

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08-18-2004, 09:01 PM	#151 (permalink)
videoworx Would Make a Good Incubus Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere near Nebraska	well, 2 notes here - I have a DMR-E60, which is similar to the 55, and I love it. Never tried the Pioneer recorder, so i can't tell you anything about it... now, a friend of mine has the Panasonic DMR-80 model, which has a hard drive. The discs it burns can NOT be played in my Pioneer DVR-105 drive (my internal PC DVD burner). Which is odd, because MY Panasonic can...maybe he uses shitty media, I don't know, but take that any way you want. btw, my local tweeter store just cleared out its store inventory, they were the selling Pioneer recorder with the Tivo for $399 (it sells for a LOT more than that).

09-10-2004, 06:26 PM	#157 (permalink)
videoworx Would Make a Good Incubus Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere near Nebraska	I highly recommend Adobe Encore for the PC, and DVD Studio Pro for the mac...

09-21-2004, 03:02 AM	#160 (permalink)
videoworx Would Make a Good Incubus Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere near Nebraska	I think this has been answered about 8 MILLLLIIIOOOON times in this thread, but it boils down to 2 options: A. If you are not computer savvy, get a stand-alone DVD recorder. Panasonic makes a great model for around $350 (DMR-E55S). You can record up to 2 hours per DVD-R, or 4 hours on a double-sided DVD-RAM disc (ram discs can only be played in panasonic players). You can record more per dvd, but the quality will degrade significantly, especially if the source material is VHS (chroma noise produced by VHS will cause lots o' artifacting at low bitrate recording settings). Next year, stand-alone dual-layer dvd recorders will be out (it's pronounced "DVD+R-DL" right now, but i'm sure some marketing genius will call it "SUPER-DVD" or something), allowing 4 hours on a dvd that can be played on any dvd player. B. If you are competent with PC's and software, you will want to avoid the cheap best buy garbage that says it can do everything with a touch of a button using a USB cable. This produces crap that will look worse than your original VHS tapes, and DVD's that won't play properly on some dvd players. step 1. buy a dvd burner. Pioneer's DVR-108 is an excellent burner, and can burn dual-layer media (currently, DL discs costs just under $9 each). NEC makes a great alternative model. Both drives are around $85 online. Single-layer burners are about $20 cheaper. Spend the extra. step 2. buy an analog-firewire converter box. Canopus makes the best bang-for-the-buck model (ADVC-100). ADSTECH also makes one that bundles the software you will also need (see below). Costs vary from $150-600 depending on what you get. If the box doesn't come with a firewire PCI card, and your PC doesn't have one, you will need to buy one. $15 with cable online anywhere. step 3. buy Adobe Premiere. Editing software is vital in cleaning up home movies, especially VHS. Premiere Pro 1.5 can clean up chroma noise with a single click, and can burn edited video to a DVD with another click (something final cut can not do, mac-users note). Premiere by itself costs $699, but you can get it for less if you buy in the ADSTECH bundle mentioned above (the bundle, with the hardware, and far more software costs $550-599 online). Educational version is $299, so if you know someone in school - get them to buy it. That's it. Now, some might consider the PC route overkill, but if you spend anything less, and don't devote the time in learning editing software - this isn't for you. Get the cheapy Panasonic burner and you will be very happy. btw, Sam's Club has a killer deal on blank dvd-r's right now. 50 8x Verbatim's in a spindle for $29.98 - can't beat that anywhere else (generic media is cheaper, but should never be used for archival stuff - data tends to float away on those things).

11-21-2005, 10:09 PM	#162 (permalink)
Dilmo Suspended Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New Braunfels, Texas. Far From Crawford!	Pioneer DVD-R question. This is my third brand I have tried out, and I have to be doing something wrong. Let's see if I can explain it. The playback of pre-recorded discs is great. It's the recording part that has be baffled. When the signal goes through the recorder, it becomes very smooth, almost blurry. I have it hooked up with component video cables to my Toshiba HDTV. I have the recorder set to progressive, but interlace almost looks better. I only use the L1 input in. How can I sharpen this up to the quality of the original source. Please help. Thank you.