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Old 07-28-2003, 08:33 PM   #121 (permalink)
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This is perfectly valid as a DVI connection does not require HDCP but I _think_ HDCP does require a DVI connection.

So, if people have a DVI connection between various video sources (DVD players or HD receviers, etc) and their displays and they are NOT watching HDCP encrypted material, everything will work fine.

Catch my drift?

You can read more about some testing that people with DirectTV can do now here:

HDTV, HDCP, and YOU!

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It's all academic with the new Momitsu V880:

This unit upconverts current-generation DVDs to
hi-def user-selectable 720p or 1080i (to be more
correct, it upconverts to VIRTUAL hi-def since the
original current DVD source remains at 480p). Unlike
either the Samsung HD931 or the Bravo D-1, the
V880 accomplishes this feat via EITHER the DVI or
component outs/ins. This means that a DVI
"in" on your set is unnecessary.

I got my V880 last week and have never seen an
image on my year 2001 65-inch RCA Scenium from
any DVD like this. This replaces my Panasonic RP-56
which was no slouch either. But the V880 is a
quantum leap in imaging technology, if my eyes are
any gauge. The audio also marks a significant
improvement in speech clarity and overall perceived
range.

The V880 was shipped to me with the macrovison/copy
protection turned OFF(thus no HDCP concerns), which
allows SETUP to either 720p or 1080i. The native
480p setting out of the factory is VERY good. But switching
to either 720p or 1080i will knock your eyeballs out of
their sockets. Word of caution: When the hi-def settings
were chosen, it took my set at least 3 minutes of multi-
colored horizontal snow before everything re-set itself
and the menu came back. Don't know if this is simply
the electronic "match" between the player and the HDTV,
or something else. I found little difference between the
720p or 1080i, except for the long time-interval for the
re-set as mentioned above. The remote control on this
unit is cheesy and perhaps should be replaced by the
manufacturer with a better, more durable model. The unit
also responds quite slowly to remote control commands.

At 1080i the V880 upconverts reference-class DVDs like
North By Northwest and the Superbit version of The Fifth
Element from outstanding, to positively 3-dimensional,
glassy-smooth images that rival any D-VHS I've seen
so far. The greatest improvement, however, is to be found
on something like the notoriously bad MGM transfers such
as some of the earlier Bond films; those are converted from
'lousy' to 'very good'. In between are the 'average' transfers
which now become beautifully clear and sharp, a very
noticeable improvement by any standard.

I can see why Jack Valenti and the MPAA would want to stop
this technology in its tracks, particularly since this not only
makes re-purchase of your existing stash of current-generation
DVDs by native Hi-Def disks totally unnecessary, but means
that the virtual hi-def image can itself be transferred to D-VHS
or any other such machine. Such are the vagaries of the
marketplace. The so-called 'first sale doctrine' means that in
any case if you own a DVD or a player outright, you have the
absolute right to use it any way that you want for your
own internal personal purpose, so I don't think Mr. Valenti or
his cohorts will have any success in stopping it, at least from
that perspective. I suppose that, in one form or other, the
new chips that drive the V880 will become standard in most
players as time goes on, for competitive if for no other reasons.
I think many manufacturers may wait for the DVI/HDMI controversy
to be decided first, also.

Anyway, I thought other of your readers might want to know
my experience with this machine. At less than $300 delivered,
I don't think there's anything on the market to match this
at ANY price. And I have no interest either in the manufacturer
or anyone else connected with the V880. I'm just a movie buff.

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I got my V880 last week and have never seen an
image on my year 2001 65-inch RCA Scenium from
any DVD like this. This replaces my Panasonic RP-56
which was no slouch either. But the V880 is a
quantum leap in imaging technology, if my eyes are
any gauge. The audio also marks a significant
improvement in speech clarity and overall perceived
range.
I'm glad to hear you're really enjoying your Momitsu!

I've been reading some additional commentary on this player and it seems to have had an "interesting" history, plagued with quirks galore. I guess one of the latest firmware updates resolves a lot of these issues. As for the video quality from this player, it seems like the component video output at 720p or 1080i is a bit softer than people would prefer. I've read a comment where the DVI RGBHV analog output is "better" than the 720p or 1080i component output of this player.

For $300, it certainly brings a LOT to the table and is definitely worth checking out!

By the way, have you experienced any of the lip sync or lock-up problems people have been reporting?

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Its been a while since I did my homework on progressive scan DVD Players but I am a firm believer of "you get what you pay for". When Pioneer came out with their Progressive Scan DVD Player, I believe it was the DV-37, its in their elite line, I didnt think their would be that much difference between a $500 player and a $1000 player.
Unfortunately, the Panasonic DVD-RP56, DVD-RP82, DVD-CP72, and DVD-XP30 disprove this assertion since they all cost < $300 and outperform several > $1000 players, at least in terms of video performance. I think this really surprised a LOT of people too.

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I dont know if you want to focus on DVD-Audio just yet as it hasnt seemed to pick up in the consumer market. I think Sony's SuperCD is more popular.
My Pioneer DV-656a plays DVD-Audio, but I haven't tried and discs yet. I've heard SACD at Chromy's place and was VERY impressed.

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Another factor you need to consider is the quality of your HDTV. Mitsubshi has three differnt grades of their HDTV. Not sure about the other manufacturers.
Toshiba and Pioneer have two lines of widescreen HDTVs. Pioneer has the non-Elite and the Elite lines. I bought my Toshiba 57HX81 since I couldn't afford a similarly sized Pioneer Elite HDTV.

Oh well, I LOVE my Toshiba to death!

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When it comes to home theater equipment never cut corners on cost. You might think you are getting a better deal with a cheaper piece of equipment, and sometimes you do. Take your time and do alot of research.
Of course, staying within budgets should ALWAYS be a priority. That is what makes forums like this great... it gives people a place to research components so they can get the BEST bang for their buck.

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Old 07-29-2003, 03:56 AM   #124 (permalink)
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I'm glad to hear you're really enjoying your Momitsu!

I've been reading some additional commentary on this player and it seems to have had an "interesting" history, plagued with quirks galore. I guess one of the latest firmware updates resolves a lot of these issues. As for the video quality from this player, it seems like the component video output at 720p or 1080i is a bit softer than people would prefer. I've read a comment where the DVI RGBHV analog output is "better" than the 720p or 1080i component output of this player.

For $300, it certainly brings a LOT to the table and is definitely worth checking out!

By the way, have you experienced any of the lip sync or lock-up problems people have been reporting?

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No particular quirks so far, just the slowness of the
interface between my HDTV and the player when
changing from one hi-def mode to another. But then
I've only played two movies all the way through; in
addition however I've now sampled perhaps 14 or
15 others from my library which is the source of
my comments. Based on performance so far, I
don't see any further need to change the machine
from the 1080i it's set for now. Hope I don't
experience 'quirkiness' in the future, because
that is one characteristic I don't need.

As to the "softness" of the image, I would agree,
but that appears only when viewing some of the
reference-quality movies -- but again, not all. North
by Northwest and S/B The 5th Element come out
PERFECT, that's the only description I can render. On
a few others sampled, I too have found moving the
"sharpness" control on the set one click to the right
compensates for the "softness" you're describing. It
appears what's happening, is that you're taking a
native 480p image that's so good to begin with, that
up-converting is almost a kind of 'overkill' to a certain
extent; yet why that 'overkill' does not come into
play with North By Northwest and S/B The 5th Element,
I don't know. Khartoum, a Cinerama movie out on a
quite-good transfer(at least for MGM), requires the
sharpness to the right as the up-converted image is
just a little too soft for my taste. I understand that
some high-frequency roll-off via component is part of
the reason for this phenomenon.

Overall, the result at 1080i on most everything I've
tried so far is absolutely STUNNING. I''m curious to
know how your readers using this machine on a
FRONT projector have fared.

Hope this information is of some benefit to your
readers considering purchase of this new technology.

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I'm curious to
know how your readers using this machine on a
FRONT projector have fared.
I found some great discussion of that player here.

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Here is some discussion of the Samsung HD931:

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Old 08-03-2003, 03:43 AM   #127 (permalink)
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Oh well, I LOVE my Toshiba to death!
Same here with my non-Elite Pioneer SD-582.

My preferred DVD input is generated by a $70 piece of software running on a 3-year-old PC with a $35 video card.

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Old 08-06-2003, 04:44 AM   #128 (permalink)
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Finally got the PIONEER ELITE. Let me just say that I've been looking at so many dvd players that my eyes are trained to look for any kind of noise on the picture at this point. With that said...the PIONEER is by far the best picture i've seen. In my opinion, it's alot clearer and sharper than the DENON and the SONY. Yes, it's a grand player, but...it still doesnt have all the features I want. I think I may just have to come to terms with the fact that I'm asking too much. Oh well.

The question is: Do I keep this beautiful player even though the 5disc is useless or trade it in and get a cheaper (maybe not as great) 1 disc. I just don't know. Any thoughts would be great.

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P.S. Does anyone know if there is any kind of input selector that you could plug into and input that would let you stream two players into the same input. Did that make sense? Kind of an A-B input is what I'm looking for (for component wires).
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P.S. Does anyone know if there is any kind of input selector that you could plug into and input that would let you stream two players into the same input. Did that make sense? Kind of an A-B input is what I'm looking for (for component wires).
Glad you like the video performance of the Pioneer.. Too bad it doesn't have the features you want.

Component video switch boxes DO exist and they might even carry them at Radio Shack. Try doing a search here on "Component Video Switch" and see if you get any hits.

EDIT: Oh yeah, if you return the Pioneer you can check out the Pioneer DV-563a which plays DVD-Audio AND SACD and all for under $200!

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I'll try the switcher thing.

Just to review exactly what it is I'm trying to get out of my system:

I want to go straight from the trailers (home made) to the film. ONe dvd player would be on pause while the other is playing the trailers. I want the movie to start once the trailers end, but without switching inputs. I know, I know...it's too much to ask, but I gotta keep trying. When I figure this out, all I'll need is a sticky floor and a rude usher and I'll be a movie theatre

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Hey Pirate. Sorry I didn't reply to your reply from a few weeks ago.

Anyway the idea you have about adding 'toons and trailers before the main feature is pretty cool. I assume you're still searching for a changer player that is programable to switch chapters and still haven't found one?

I just had a thought while catching up on this thread. Have you thought about the possibility of a programable remote that you can activate the disc and/or title change with the press of a macro? Perhaps if the player can't be programed you can program the remote to do the steps for you in one step that you would need to do manually. Just a thought.
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Well, ladies and gents...I'm on my 5th DVD player at this point. I returned the 5disc PIONEER for the PIONEER DV-45A. It gets rid of the flicker issue and looks better all around. It's not as pretty as the 5disc, but It's the picture quality that counts. Right?

Thanks for getting back chipmac, I think I'll take toms advice and get a switcher so that I can run the trailers and such through the same input. I dont think any 5disc will let me have enough control to do this.

If anyone owns the 45a let me know what ya think.

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P.s. I'm also looking at the YAMAHA DV-C740. Any opinions on this. I doubt it'll out perform the PIONEER.
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Thanks for getting back chipmac, I think I'll take toms advice and get a switcher so that I can run the trailers and such through the same input. I dont think any 5disc will let me have enough control to do this.
Hey it's up t o you but I got the impression you wanted some sort of an automated solution. I'm not aware of a programable switcher but a programable remote should be able to tell a 5 disc changer when and how to switch between discs, titles and chapters. You can preprogam it for a one button macro and when your guests arrive you can have the discs you wnat loaded and with a press of a button it's all ready to go.
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I got the impression you wanted some sort of an automated solution. I'm not aware of a programable switcher but a programable remote should be able to tell a 5 disc changer when and how to switch between discs, titles and chapters.
The problem is that, it seems the disc itself overrides the programming. When you tell it to start with chapter 1, some discs will go to the FBI warnings first no matter what. IF the disc stays in play mode, it works. If it moves out of play mode so one of the other programmed discs can play, the FBI warning come up no matter what. And it's not just some discs, it's like all of universal, fox, dreamworks, disney, miramax. The switcher wont be programmable, but I can stream 2 players to one input and then just push stop and play on the two remotes. The 45a seems to be a better player anyway.

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i need a new player, whats thge ebst 1 i can get for 200$ or so and what makes it the best? HELP ME
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Any of the three consumer upcon' machines, without
question: these newest players upconvert current-
generation DVDs to hi-def at either 720p or 1080i.

These represent a quantum leap in display technology
over the previous 480 technology. They are the
Bravo D-1, Samsung HD931 and Momitsu V880,
all of which come in at well under $300. The first two
require a DVI input on your display(few of them
made prior to 2003 have it), while the V880 does
this trick via EITHER the DVI or component route.
The image, particularly on large projection screens,
whether front or rear, is jaw-dropping from any
high-quality DVD and is every bit as good as D-VHS
or any HDTV movie telecast by CBS or ABC.

Word of caution: the new decoder/boards which drive
these new machines are NOT compatible with all
displays at 720p/1080i hi-def upcon', so you may wish
to try and contact the manufacturer to determine
if their installed base is large enough to know
whether your particular brand and model display poses
any known incompatability issues.

In any case, once you've seen these machines at either
720p or 1080i, there;s no going back to 480, that's for
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Well, in terms of determining what makes any given DVD player "the best" depends on what your needs and requirements are. If you post more info about your Home Theater setup (what make/model DVD player do you have now, what make/model TV do you have, etc) and what kinds of features you would like in a new DVD player (like high quailty progressive scan video output or multi-disc capability, etc) then we can make more accurate recommendations.

If you haven't done so already, read through the previous posts in this thread to see the kinds of things people have looked for in the past. You might want DVD-Audio and SACD playback and not all DVD players offer that. You might want a player that upconverts to 1080i if you have a display that can accept that kind of video input and not all DVD players offer that.

Give us a better idea of what you need (forget what's available for a moment and just post your "wish list") and we can go from there.

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haha i ended up getting a panasonic progressive scan PAN DVDS35S - i broke it in with Animal House, its niicee
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I bought the progressive scan Toshiba SD-3900 yesterday and component cables. Whereas it gives a nice picture I was unimpressed with its lack of features (time counter for each chapter for one thing). Unless I am missing how to do that.

I broke it in with "Attack of the Clones". It looked great and sounded great. There was some sound hiccuping though within the main menu and chapter switching. That bothered me.

I have been so used to Sony that I am having a hard time this change. Does anyone else here own the Toshiba SD-3900 and what are your experiences with it?

I sorta wish I had shopped around a little more. The remote sucks major.
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I broke it in with "Attack of the Clones". It looked great and sounded great. There was some sound hiccuping though within the main menu and chapter switching. That bothered me.
That doesn't sound good at all. Can you return the SD-3900? You can possibly buy some other players to compare against the SD-3900 and return the losers.

You might want to check out the Pioneer DV-563a that people have been talking about here. It can be found at BestBuy for $170 - $180 and supports DVD-Audio AND SACD. There is a thread in the Hardware forum here dedicated to the DV-563a that you should read.

You might also want to check out the Panasonic S35 and the Pioneer DV-363k, which are both progressive scan DVD players for under $100.

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That doesn't sound good at all. Can you return the SD-3900? You can possibly buy some other players to compare against the SD-3900 and return the losers.

You might want to check out the Pioneer DV-563a that people have been talking about here. It can be found at BestBuy for $170 - $180 and supports DVD-Audio AND SACD. There is a thread in the Hardware forum here dedicated to the DV-563a that you should read.

You might also want to check out the Panasonic S35 and the Pioneer DV-363k, which are both progressive scan DVD players for under $100.

Good luck!

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Thanks Tomdkat. I am really thinking of taking it back. I was watching selections form various movies: Planet of the Apes, TTT, Signs and everyonce and awhile the sound would mute for a split second. Almost most like a layer change. That is exactly what it is like but I know it isn't layer changes because I rewind it and it'll play just fine. I am tempted to get the Pioneer you are speaking of. I might convince Best Buy to take back the Toshiba so that they can upsell me. I still have the receipt so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Ok so I want to upgrade to a progressive scan dvd player. I currently use a Toshiba SD2200 with my Toshiba 50H81 HDTV.

Over the past year or so the price on progressive scan dvd players has come way down. If I buy a player like the Panasonic RP62 or S35S will I see a huge difference in picture quality? I can get one of these for under $100.00. Or do I need to spend more like $500.00 on an RP91 to notice a difference.

-I am looking to spend under $500.
-I want a progressive scan player with both a DTS and DD.
-Region free is not a must.

Any suggestions?
Why just an 'ordinary' progressive scan player?

For well under $300 you can buy the latest-
technology hi-def players(Bravo D-1, Samsung
HD931 and Momitsu V880) and view current-
generation DVDs at either 720p or 1080i. The
difference, especially on large front or rear
projection screens, is dramatic; there's just
no going back to 480 after you see this. Would
you go back to laser disk NOW?

Words of caution: if your display is a direct-
view tube, or a plasma, then the difference
won't be that much. Also, the hi-def machines
do NOT work on all displays, so you should
check with the manufacturers to find out if
they have a large enough installed base to
know of any incompatability with your make
and model display. The D-1 and HD931 require
a DVI input on your display; the V880 does
the upcon via either DVI or component.

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Why just an 'ordinary' progressive scan player?
Because support for DVD-Audio and SACD might be of importance to him.

The Toshiba 50H81 doesn't have DVI input so the Bravo and Samsung are basically out (unless there is a DVI to component converter available and I don't think there is, but I really don't know). If he wanted "high-res" video performance from current DVDs and wasn't interested in the audio formats, the Momitsu would probably work very well for him. If he wants great video performance as well as support for the current multi-channel audio formats, the Pioneer DV-563a would be the most inexpensive route and the Denon DVD-2900 and the DVD-2200 (I think) would also be worth checking out.

It all really depends on what he wants out of his DVD player.

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Ok, here is a request for a portable DVD player:

portable DVD players... advice please

Please post any further info on recommendations in this thread.

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Thanks Tomdkat. I am really thinking of taking it back. I was watching selections form various movies: Planet of the Apes, TTT, Signs and everyonce and awhile the sound would mute for a split second. Almost most like a layer change. That is exactly what it is like but I know it isn't layer changes because I rewind it and it'll play just fine. I am tempted to get the Pioneer you are speaking of. I might convince Best Buy to take back the Toshiba so that they can upsell me. I still have the receipt so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Did you ever take back your 3900? I ask because I wanted to pick one up at BB the other day for its easy region-hack feature and they no longer were stocking it... Only 4900s... Haven't read if it will do the all-region thing like the 3900 did...

Also... I was going to ask about this whole upconvert thing... I see a happy Momitsu owner... Anyone else trying this with the Samsung or the Bravo? I'm awfully tempted to get one... Any more handy linkage, tomdkat, about this new wave of player?
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Any more handy linkage, tomdkat, about this new wave of player?
There is a TON of discussion on the Bravo D-1 and Samsung HD931 on AVS Forum.

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Old 11-05-2003, 02:23 AM   #148 (permalink)
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What are some good portable DVD players for $250 or under? I've seen one at Wal-Mart (bleh) for about $180. It looked alright. It just had The Recruit menu running so I couldn't tell how it actually looked in motion. I'm really wanting a portable DVD player since I watch so many movies. It would be great to have when on a plane or late at night in bed.

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Inexpensive progressive scan DVD player that outputs 1080i upconverted from current 480i DVDs over component video connections:

LiteON LVD-2001:

http://www.mypcgoodies.com/mypcg/det...item=LT334001R

There seems to be some good feedback about this player on AVS Forum and some prefer the build quality over the Momitsu V880, but the Momitsu also has DVI output which would be THE way to go, if at all possible.

At $140, it's the LiteON is _very_ attractive.

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Here's another request for a progressive scan DVD player recommendation:

Need Help...Great DVD Player

brttlt, what model of Panasonic TV did you get? Does it have DVI inputs?

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Depending on Budget, and requirements, I wholehartedly recomend the Pioneer DV563A-S for 180 if you want SACD/DVD-A. If not, I am, as we speak, using a Pioneer DV 260 purchased from Wal Mart for about $80 US, and am Quite happy with it's performance

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Best DVD player to buy, with bells and whistles (progressive, DTS, CD-R...) for $175 - $200.
Which one do i buy and where have people seen the best prices?
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brttlt, what model of Panasonic TV did you get? Does it have DVI inputs?
Without knowing if you want DVI support, we can't recommend any players that support DVI. I'm not sure if any really exist in the $200 price range, outside of maybe the Bravo D-1.

For $175 - $200, there's the Pioneer DV-563a which supports DVD-Video/DVD-Audio/SACD, many CD formats and DVD recordable formats, as chlngr1970 recommends. This has been a very popular player since it supports DVD-Audio/SACD for under $200.

If you don't want/need DVD-Audio or SACD, see if you can find a Panasonic DVD-XP30 or DVD-RP82 (which does support DVD-Audio). They've been discontinued but you might be able to find one online. They are _great_ players.

The Toshiba SD-4900 (which also supports DVD-Audio) might be worth checking out as well as the Toshiba SD-3950.

All of the above players will support Dolby Digital and dts and will all have coax and optical (toslink) audio outputs as well as component video outputs, etc.

Do you want any special features like "Zoom" or WMA (Windows Media Audio) or MP3 support? JPEG picture viewer?

EDIT: You can ignore the MSRPs on the above product pages as the street prices are much lower than the MSRP. So, in the case of the Toshiba SD-3950, the MSRP is $129 which means you can probably find it for under $100.

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pk, I'm going to play dumb. What's the difference between DVI and the "component cables" Which is better? I'm more concerned about my movie viewing via DVD, not what comes over cable or Satelite!
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pk, I'm going to play dumb. What's the difference between DVI and the "component cables" Which is better?
DVI is a Digital Video Interface which provides for a digital video connection between the DVD player and the display (HDTV, front projector, Plasma TV, etc). component video is an analog video connection which requires a "digital to analog" conversion before the image is displayed. If your Panasonic HDTV has a DVI input, you could get one of the progressive scan DVD players with a DVI output and enjoy DVDs upconverted to 720p or 1080i over the DVI connection. Some DVD players will also output these resolutions over component video connections but only a couple will do this (the LiteOn and the Momitsu will).

The main point here is, if we have a better understanding of which TV you will be connecting the player to and what features you want in your DVD player, we can make a better recommendation. If you read through this thread (even though its long) you can see how having this kind of info can impact our ability to make "accurate" or "pertinent" DVD player recommendations.

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TomdKat:The TV I just bought is a Panasonic, 50" HDTV Widescreen with DLP,it's model # PT-50LC13.

On the DVD I would like the best possible picture, so do I go with "DVI".
I just bought the "component cables" but have yet to buy the DVD player.
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TomdKat:The TV I just bought is a Panasonic, 50" HDTV Widescreen with DLP,it's model # PT-50LC13.
Thanks for posting this info. This TV is a LCD display which means I think you would benefit from a DVI connection much more than those with CRT-based Rear-Projection TVs. Can someone confirm this for me?

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I'm not a LCD expert but I'm inclined to answer "yes" to this question. Can you "bump" your DVD player budget up some so you can scope out DVD players with DVI outputs? The Samsung HD931 might be a DVD player worth checking out, along with the Bravo D-1, or Momitsu V880. All of those players are within the $300 price range and upconvert current DVD resolution to 720p or 1080i and have DVI outputs. If you can have a 100% pure digital connection between the DVD player and display, I would definitely recommend going that route.

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anybody know anything about the following DVD players:
Denon DVD-900
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Sony DVPNC665P

I've heard some good stuff about Denon and that 900 is running at $235 right now!
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Denon DVD players tend to be very good, but I haven't heard much about the DVD-900. Given the price range you've indicated previously, you might want to shop around a bit more and refine your requirements (like do you want a DVI connection or not or do you want DVD-Audio or SACD support or not). Shopping by price can work but you might get a great deal on a player you might not really want.

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Because we would want to know if a display supporting HDCP would be required to utilize the upconverted video output via DVI.

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Hello all, I've been on this board for a while, but I've rarely posted here. I have a question for tomdkat or anyone else regarding a few players...

I had a Panasonic RP56 that recently stop working on me, I have since bought the Panasonic S35. I don't know if the S35 is holding up with good picture quality (I could be wrong). I've been looking at the Samsung HD931, I will not be using the DVI input because I have a Hitachi 43 inch without DVI. So my question is...how does the Samsung hold up "picture" quality without the up converting, and is the Panasonic S35 a better player than the Samsung HD931?
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