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Old 04-16-2003, 04:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AV Receiver Component Hookups VS TV

Question: I have a Denon 3802 and a Denon 1600 DVD player I have the DVD player directly connected to the component inputs on my TV. Would it be advantageous to use the component inputs on the receiver instead, if so why? I haven't tried this myself because I don't have an extra set of component cables. I figured if they're isn't a difference I won't do it since my current cables were over $100 and I don't won't to spend another $100 needlessly.

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Old 04-16-2003, 06:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You know, before I opened up Hardware, I was wondering the very same thing.
What purpose does hooking your player's video signal into your receiver serve?
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Old 04-16-2003, 07:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A receiver with video inputs can act as a video switch. So, if you have all your video inputs going through the receiver, when you switch to an audio input, the corresponding video will be run to your TV. You don't have to take the extra step of changing your video input on your TV.
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Old 04-16-2003, 07:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A receiver with video inputs can act as a video switch. So, if you have all your video inputs going through the receiver, when you switch to an audio input, the corresponding video will be run to your TV. You don't have to take the extra step of changing your video input on your TV.
Thanks for the input but if that is the only reason which I sorta thought it was I don't see the value in doing it. In fact in some cases one would think it would be nice to have video on one thing and audio on another. I have done this in the past for a variaty of reason. Essentially it seems if anything running the dvd player through the receiver would degrade quality albeit it probably isn't noticable. It would seem anytime you have to add an additional hookup and addition length of cable you are running the risk of degrading the performance slightly. I guess what I want to know is if by running your hookup through the receiver do you gain performance ie. does it boost the signal.

Thanks for the input Jerm I'm glad to see someone else wondered this as well.
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Old 04-16-2003, 10:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input but if that is the only reason which I sorta thought it was I don't see the value in doing it.
I currently have 3 progressive scan DVD players and can't have all three connected to my TV since it has only two component video inputs.

If I had a receiver with multiple component video inputs (like 3 ) and a component output, I could conveniently switch between the progressive scan players.

I think more commonly, people have a HD or Satellite receiver with component video output, DVD player interlaced or progressive scan), and maybe a gaming machine with component video outputs (it not multiple DVD players) and having the ability to conveniently switch between them becomes a real plus.

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In fact in some cases one would think it would be nice to have video on one thing and audio on another.
My old Pioneer A/V receiver used to do this, but my current one does not. I DID find it useful when I wanted to "audio interference" to distract those within earshot from what I was watching on the TV...

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Essentially it seems if anything running the dvd player through the receiver would degrade quality albeit it probably isn't noticable.
I've read comments on AVS Forum where people have discussed this and I don't recall if people discussed any degredation of any kind, but it's been SOOO long that I honestly don't remember.

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I guess what I want to know is if by running your hookup through the receiver do you gain performance ie. does it boost the signal.
There might be an A/V receiver or two out there that WILL boost the component video signals it passes through (I think the current Denon "flagship" A/V receiver might do this), but again I'm not 100% sure. There's a "Flagship receivers" message forum that discusses the "top of the line" receivers from manufacturers, like Sony, Pioneer, and Denon, but I forget the URL. Once I find it, I will post it.

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Old 04-16-2003, 10:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hey tom,

Sounds liek you need one of these



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I DID find it useful when I wanted to "audio interference" to distract those within earshot from what I was watching on the TV
Hmmmm...wonder what that would be

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Sounds like you need one of these
Yeah, one of those would be nice....

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Hmmmm...wonder what that would be
Well, you know... one's got to be discrete...

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Old 04-17-2003, 12:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah that's what I was saying it seemed that video switching was the only advantage and for some they need to do this like in your case. I just want to know why you would have 3 dvd players hooked up.

Hahaha that makes me laugh I am doing the thing with the audio on one thing and video on another for that very reason, haha.

See the thing is Tom your player wouldn't need to do anything special to do this like in my case. I run the audio for my DVDs through the receiver but the video is directly connected to the TV so I can play DVD audio and still put the TV on certain channels or in my case satellite which also has video that is directly connected to the back of the TV. I do video switching for most everything else.

I know that the Denon 3803 does a video upscale. For instance if you run S video out of the Receiver to your TV but run composite video from a device it upscales it to S video quality. I have no idea how it does this but this is what I was told.
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Old 04-17-2003, 12:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hahaha that makes me laugh I am doing the thing with the audio on one thing and video on another for that very reason, haha.
Really? You're watching *cough*pr0n*cough* too?

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See the thing is Tom your player wouldn't need to do anything special to do this like in my case. I run the audio for my DVDs through the receiver but the video is directly connected to the TV so I can play DVD audio and still put the TV on certain channels or in my case satellite which also has video that is directly connected to the back of the TV. I do video switching for most everything else.
My current setup is just like what you're doing as well.

Elmo Oxygen has a much better "real world" example than I could muster.

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I know that the Denon 3803 does a video upscale. For instance if you run S video out of the Receiver to your TV but run composite video from a device it upscales it to S video quality. I have no idea how it does this but this is what I was told.
I think some receivers will output an upscaled component signal as well. Man, I need to dig up some previously read threads and post links here....

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Old 04-17-2003, 12:47 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah I just read that thread. Yeah this is much needed information, very useful.
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