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brttlt · 11-09-2003, 07:16 PM

What is "SACD Playback" and is it important?
What is "Aspect Ratio Correction" ?
Thanks!

snipsnapsappy · 11-09-2003, 07:51 PM

Well, to start please list your DVD player model whenever you are trying to discuss something sbout your player.

But, I can help with SACD. It is a new music format that utilizes high resolution sound. It has much better sound quality than CDs. It also has many titles that are in 5.1 surround as well as 2.0 stereo.

You will need to have a reciever with 6 channel external input. This is the only current way to recieve an SACD signal (unless you have the Pioneer Elite 47Ai and 59txi). You will then need to hook up the 6 audio cable outputs from the DVD player and send them in to the 6 inputs in the reciever.

Then go and buy a SACD disc, try Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon for starters, and you will be in Audio heaven.

The feature on the DVD player, I am guessing since I do not know the make of the player, is to ask if you prefer Stereo SACD or Surround SACD.

Hope this helps!

I have a guess about aspect ratio correction, but I need to know what DVD player it is.

brttlt · 11-09-2003, 08:19 PM

it's not a DVD player that I own. I'm looking to buy a new Progressive Scan DVD player and I want to make sure I get some good "Bells and Whisltes"!

snipsnapsappy · 11-09-2003, 08:43 PM

I would recommend getting the $180 Pioneer 563-A. It has DVD-Audio, SACD and excellent progressive scan DVD-Video. It is the best bang for your buck player on the market. If you can spend more, than go for the Denon 2200, but that runs for a whopping $550. If that is too much, than the Pioneer is definitely the way to go.

tomdkat · 11-09-2003, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brttlt

it's not a DVD player that I own. I'm looking to buy a new Progressive Scan DVD player and I want to make sure I get some good "Bells and Whisltes"!

Still, snipsnap is correct that posting the info on the DVD player in question is important since without that it's harder for us to help and will not 'inspire" people to put forth effort to assist as best as they could. Not all DVD players offer "Aspect Ratio Correction" so if you post the info on the DVD player you were looking at which listed this as a "feature", we can possibly provide better info.

Peace...

brttlt · 11-09-2003, 09:11 PM

I was looking at the Denon DVD910
It boasts a "Aspect ratio correction" and I was wondering what that was!

tomdkat · 11-09-2003, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brttlt

I was looking at the Denon DVD910
It boasts a "Aspect ratio correction" and I was wondering what that was!

Straight from the Denon DVD-910 manual (PDF format):

Quote:

■ Aspect Ratio Function for Correct Image Displays
When you want to view video images with an aspect ratio of 4:3 on a
16:9 Progressive TV monitor, the DVD-910's Aspect Ratio function converts
the images to the correct aspect ratio so that you can enjoy highquality
Progressive output on your screen. This function also converts 16:9
images for output to 4:3 TV screens.

That sounds like scaling of 4:3 material for it appears formatted better when displayed on 16:9 TVs. This is a good thing.

Peace...

snipsnapsappy · 11-10-2003, 12:18 AM

The denon would be an excellent choice if all you want is movie playback. It has amazingly good progressive scan and excellent audio. Denon products, even the cheaper ones, are of very good quality. However, you said you wanted worthwhile features, and the Pioneer one mentioned above will have about the same quality picture and sound, most can not tell the difference between the two, and it has DVD-A and SACD playback, which is an incredible feature to have on a player that inexpensive. Go check out the player at Best Buy. Sometimes they have it for only $160 instead of $180.

snipsnapsappy · 11-10-2003, 12:27 AM

There is tons of discussion on this player here:

Pioneer DV-563a DVD player review

tomdkat · 11-10-2003, 12:29 AM

Since he indicated here:

DVD Player recommendations: Discuss DVD player recommendations here

that he purchased a 50" 16:9 LCD Panasonic TV, I'm thinking a player with a DVI output might provide better video quality for him.

Peace...

snipsnapsappy · 11-10-2003, 12:58 AM

What confused me was that he said he purchased a DLP panasonic, which I did not know they made, although I do not believe he even has it yet.

But, I am not quite sure yet about the DVI players, the current Bravo D1 only posted a 72% on the Secrets Test. It does not sound to me like the player does anything good with the image besides upconverting it. The secrets crew said the player has all sorts of interlacing problems. One of the guys at Secrets has a new Denon 5900 and he says it is the best image currently available. But that player costs $2000.

Here is the link:

http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsth...b=5&o=&fpart=1

So I would say go with the featureless, but DVI, Samsung HD 931 for $300 (out of his current price range) or the feature packed Pioneer DV-563A for $180.

tomdkat · 11-10-2003, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snipsnapsappy

What confused me was that he said he purchased a DLP panasonic, which I did not know they made, although I do not believe he even has it yet.

Maybe he's not quite sure what he got either.

At least the Panaonic site lists his set as being a LCD set, based on the model # he supplied.

Quote:

But, I am not quite sure yet about the DVI players, the current Bravo D1 only posted a 72% on the Secrets Test. It does not sound to me like the player does anything good with the image besides upconverting it. The secrets crew said the player has all sorts of interlacing problems.

Do you mean de-interlacing problems?

I haven't heard much about the de-interlacing ability of the recent DVI-capable DVD players (at least not the "affordable" ones...

).

I guess if people are outputting a 1080i image, there's no real need to worry about poor de-interlacing unless 720p output is desired. I didn't know the Secrets report had been updated. Thanks for the link.

EDIT: Here is a direct link to the Secrets report on the Bravo D-1:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-b...20D1%20-%20DVI

Quote:

So I would say go with the featureless, but DVI, Samsung HD 931 for $300 (out of his current price range) or the feature packed Pioneer DV-563A for $180.

Or maybe the Momitsu V880 which I think is also over his current $200 "cap".

Peace...

11-09-2003, 07:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
brttlt Actor Join Date: May 2003	2 Confusing DVD Feetures! What is "SACD Playback" and is it important? What is "Aspect Ratio Correction" ? Thanks! __________________ "Knights, I bid you welcome to your new home. Let us ride to Camelot..."

11-09-2003, 07:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
snipsnapsappy Actor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Shell Beach, CA, USA	Well, to start please list your DVD player model whenever you are trying to discuss something sbout your player. But, I can help with SACD. It is a new music format that utilizes high resolution sound. It has much better sound quality than CDs. It also has many titles that are in 5.1 surround as well as 2.0 stereo. You will need to have a reciever with 6 channel external input. This is the only current way to recieve an SACD signal (unless you have the Pioneer Elite 47Ai and 59txi). You will then need to hook up the 6 audio cable outputs from the DVD player and send them in to the 6 inputs in the reciever. Then go and buy a SACD disc, try Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon for starters, and you will be in Audio heaven. The feature on the DVD player, I am guessing since I do not know the make of the player, is to ask if you prefer Stereo SACD or Surround SACD. Hope this helps! I have a guess about aspect ratio correction, but I need to know what DVD player it is. __________________ I balked, now the proud owner of both formats. I am now bi-partisan. I enjoy what both red and blue have to offer. My Theater MySpace

11-09-2003, 08:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
brttlt Actor Join Date: May 2003	it's not a DVD player that I own. I'm looking to buy a new Progressive Scan DVD player and I want to make sure I get some good "Bells and Whisltes"! __________________ "Knights, I bid you welcome to your new home. Let us ride to Camelot..."

11-09-2003, 08:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
snipsnapsappy Actor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Shell Beach, CA, USA	I would recommend getting the $180 Pioneer 563-A. It has DVD-Audio, SACD and excellent progressive scan DVD-Video. It is the best bang for your buck player on the market. If you can spend more, than go for the Denon 2200, but that runs for a whopping $550. If that is too much, than the Pioneer is definitely the way to go. __________________ I balked, now the proud owner of both formats. I am now bi-partisan. I enjoy what both red and blue have to offer. My Theater MySpace

11-09-2003, 09:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
brttlt Actor Join Date: May 2003	I was looking at the Denon DVD910 It boasts a "Aspect ratio correction" and I was wondering what that was! __________________ "Knights, I bid you welcome to your new home. Let us ride to Camelot..."

11-10-2003, 12:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
snipsnapsappy Actor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Shell Beach, CA, USA	The denon would be an excellent choice if all you want is movie playback. It has amazingly good progressive scan and excellent audio. Denon products, even the cheaper ones, are of very good quality. However, you said you wanted worthwhile features, and the Pioneer one mentioned above will have about the same quality picture and sound, most can not tell the difference between the two, and it has DVD-A and SACD playback, which is an incredible feature to have on a player that inexpensive. Go check out the player at Best Buy. Sometimes they have it for only $160 instead of $180. __________________ I balked, now the proud owner of both formats. I am now bi-partisan. I enjoy what both red and blue have to offer. My Theater MySpace

11-10-2003, 12:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
snipsnapsappy Actor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Shell Beach, CA, USA	There is tons of discussion on this player here: Pioneer DV-563a DVD player review __________________ I balked, now the proud owner of both formats. I am now bi-partisan. I enjoy what both red and blue have to offer. My Theater MySpace

11-10-2003, 12:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
tomdkat Official Forum Warmonger "Dial Tone" Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hayward, CA, USA	Since he indicated here: DVD Player recommendations: Discuss DVD player recommendations here that he purchased a 50" 16:9 LCD Panasonic TV, I'm thinking a player with a DVI output might provide better video quality for him. Peace... __________________ My DVD Aficionado List "At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!"

11-10-2003, 12:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
snipsnapsappy Actor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Shell Beach, CA, USA	What confused me was that he said he purchased a DLP panasonic, which I did not know they made, although I do not believe he even has it yet. But, I am not quite sure yet about the DVI players, the current Bravo D1 only posted a 72% on the Secrets Test. It does not sound to me like the player does anything good with the image besides upconverting it. The secrets crew said the player has all sorts of interlacing problems. One of the guys at Secrets has a new Denon 5900 and he says it is the best image currently available. But that player costs $2000. Here is the link: http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsth...b=5&o=&fpart=1 So I would say go with the featureless, but DVI, Samsung HD 931 for $300 (out of his current price range) or the feature packed Pioneer DV-563A for $180. __________________ I balked, now the proud owner of both formats. I am now bi-partisan. I enjoy what both red and blue have to offer. My Theater MySpace

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