Component Cables

[brttlt]

Is it best to run your component cables from your DVD direct to your TV or through your receiver? (I know my new TV has the component ready holes)Hopefully direct because looking at my receiver, it doesn't have anything for component cables. My Home Theater System is about 4 years old, a Panasonic SC-HT280.

I think I heard someone say both ways will work. If I go TV direct, what do I run from my DVD to the receiver (Pioneer 563a DVD) to get sound?

[tomdkat]

The simples configuration is to run the component cables from the DVD player to the TV directly. For audio either use the coax digital audio connection or the optical (toslink) digital audio connection to your A/V receiver. You will have to make sure your receiver is setup to accept the digital audio signal and you should get sound.

The manual for the DV-563a and your A/V receiver should have instructions on how to connect everything.

Peace...

[I 8 Piglet]

My receiver does not have componant switching either. I have only one comp input on my PJ, and more than one device that out puts comp, so I got an active comp video switch, that solved that problem, but if you only have one device outputing component just run it right to the tv.

As for the DV563a I have two sets of audio running out. I have a digital coax running to the reciever, for movies and cds, and I have the 6 channel output running to my reciever for DVD-a and SACD. (I dont use special cables, just two sets of red, white, yellow av cables.)

[tomdkat]

Originally Posted by I 8 Piglet

I have the 6 channel output running to my reciever for DVD-a

You know, I still have NOT connected the 6 channel output of my DV-656a to my receiver yet... I guess I had better do something about that...

Peace...

[snipsnapsappy]

Tom, Tom, Tom,
When are you going to do that and then experience DVD-Audio? It is worth the effort, especially if there is a title available that you really like. Do it! go buy some cheap RCA Audio cables and do it, you will be impressed!

Brttlt,

You need to make sure your reciever has 6 channel input on it before you go and buy the 563-A. If you do not have 6 channel input, you can not listen to DVD-A or SACD, so those features would be useless. Give us the model number of your reciever or just look at the front and see if it has "6 Channel External Input" or something like that.

If not, you should probably get the Samsung HD931 or Bravo D1 because they will produce a better picture.

[tomdkat]

Originally Posted by snipsnapsappy

Tom, Tom, Tom,
When are you going to do that and then experience DVD-Audio? It is worth the effort, especially if there is a title available that you really like. Do it! go buy some cheap RCA Audio cables and do it, you will be impressed!

Yeah, yeah, I know... I'm a slacker...

You need to make sure your reciever has 6 channel input on it before you go and buy the 563-A. If you do not have 6 channel input, you can not listen to DVD-A or SACD, so those features would be useless. Give us the model number of your reciever or just look at the front and see if it has "6 Channel External Input" or something like that.

Good call....

If not, you should probably get the Samsung HD931 or Bravo D1 because they will produce a better picture.

Ah yes, the question of video quality vs DVD-Audio/SACD support....

Peace...

[brttlt]

It's a Panasonic SC-HT280 Home Theater System. So far, I'm not seeing the 6th channel output!
Crud...I just brought the 563a home too!

[brttlt]

I liked the reviews of the 563a, so even if I can't hook for SACD, right now, I may keep it. Who knows, I may upgrade the receiver in a year or 2!

Is that Samsung H931 a good one and under $200?

[I 8 Piglet]

I would say stick with the 563a. I rarely use the multi channel option as it is. I only have a couple of DVDAs and SACDs, and I dont plan on replacing all my cds anytime soon.

Besides, Im sure you will feel the need to upgrade your audio soon enough. If you havnt learned this yet, you quikly will; there is always something to upgrade to.

About that Sammy...It has quite a following over at AVS because of its DVI output. I forgot which tv you purchase, but if it has a DVI in you might consider this player, otherwise, stick with Pioneer.
(dvi is an alternative to comonant video)

[tomdkat]

Originally Posted by I 8 Piglet

I forgot which tv you purchase, but if it has a DVI in you might consider this player,

His TV is a 50" Panasonic LCD TV with DVI inputs...

(dvi is an alternative to comonant video)

It's more than that since it provides a digital video path vs an analog one as is the case with component video. If one can estalish an all digital video path, that should provide for a better viewing experience.

The Samsung HD931 is close to $300:

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_g...683e69695786fd

As I mentioned in previous threads, namely the DVD player recommendation thread, if you could expand your budget to $300 your options improve a lot.

Still, you can enjoy the DV-563a for the duration of the return period, at least, and then decide if you want to try the Samsung or some other DVI player at some later point in time.

Peace...

[snipsnapsappy]

I would say go with the Samsung. Unless you plan to really update your sound system, you will not be able to hear any difference in the DVD-A and SACD formats versus conventional CD. Without 6 channel input on your reciever, you will not be able to even hear DVD-A or SACD at all.

I would get the Samsung now because it will produce better picture quality with the superior DVI output. If you have the money, get both, hook up the Samsung with DVI and the Pioneer with Component and then see if you can tell a difference, and see if the difference is worth the extra money. The take back the player you decide not to get.

It sounds to me like DVD-A and SACD are a wasted feature with your current audio set up while DVI will be an excellent feature for your TV.

[tomdkat]

Originally Posted by snipsnapsappy

I would get the Samsung now because it will produce better picture quality with the superior DVI output. If you have the money, get both, hook up the Samsung with DVI and the Pioneer with Component and then see if you can tell a difference, and see if the difference is worth the extra money. The take back the player you decide not to get.

Actually, the Bravo D1 might be a more suitable player since it's WITHIN his current budget and has a DVI output.

EDIT: Here is a post with some pertinent threads on this issue...

Peace....

[MurDiddlyUrdler]

Originally Posted by tomdkat

Actually, the Bravo D1 might be a more suitable player since it's WITHIN his current budget and has a DVI output.

Peace....

Not to mention that the Bravo is acclaimed to have better video quality than the Samsung. I have the Bravo myself and I really like it for its picture quality through the DVI output. It could certainly stand to have more features and be more user friendly, but I've never seen a DVD player with better picture quality. It's noticeably better than the highly regarded Denon DVD-1600 that I tested back in the Spring. I think the Bravo wins points over the Samsung because of the Samsung's problem with edge enhancement.

[tomdkat]

Originally Posted by MurDiddlyUrdler

Not to mention that the Bravo is acclaimed to have better video quality than the Samsung. I have the Bravo myself and I really like it for its picture quality through the DVI output.

Wow, I didn't know you had this player. Cool!

If you look in the "DVD Player recommendation" thread, I just posted a link to a Denon DVD-5900 vs Bravo D1 comparison over at AVS Forum. That link is in one of my last posts on page 6.

Peace...

[MurDiddlyUrdler]

Originally Posted by tomdkat

Wow, I didn't know you had this player. Cool!

Yes, and we even discussed this player in this thread. I like the Bravo a lot, but I also still use my Toshiba SD-4800 because it's capable of decoding closed captions in a progressive picture and it does a great job of rendering non-anamorphic widescreen DVDs on my widescreen tv.

[tomdkat]

Originally Posted by MurDiddlyUrdler

Yes, and we even discussed this player in this thread.

Oh, that was so very long ago...

it does a great job of rendering non-anamorphic widescreen DVDs on my widescreen tv.

How does the Bravo handle non-anamorphic material?

Peace...

[snipsnapsappy]

I read that the Samsung has a problem with edge enhancement because it has a feature activated out of the box that can be disabled with a push of a button in the set up menu. Then all the extra edge enhancement goes away. So that is not quite a reason to dismiss the Samsung.

I have heard that the Bravo does not pass pluge so it does not create pure black levels. I am not sure if the Samsung passes Pluge, but I know for sure the Bravo does not.

I get the idea that most people I have read like the technology of the DVI players, but the quality leaves a lot to be desired. Thankfully, with the new high end Denon and Pioneer players, we will see companies doing DVI (and HDMI) the right way.

[tomdkat]

Originally Posted by snipsnapsappy

I read that the Samsung has a problem with edge enhancement because it has a feature activated out of the box that can be disabled with a push of a button in the set up menu. Then all the extra edge enhancement goes away. So that is not quite a reason to dismiss the Samsung.

I have heard that the Bravo does not pass pluge so it does not create pure black levels. I am not sure if the Samsung passes Pluge, but I know for sure the Bravo does not.

Good points...

I get the idea that most people I have read like the technology of the DVI players, but the quality leaves a lot to be desired. Thankfully, with the new high end Denon and Pioneer players, we will see companies doing DVI (and HDMI) the right way.

I definitely agree with this. The DVI capable players are still relatievly new so I'm sure the next "batch" will be much improved over the current choices available.

Peace...

[MurDiddlyUrdler]

Originally Posted by tomdkat

Oh, that was so very long ago...

I'll forgive you this one time for not remembering what equipment every forum member has, but never again!

Originally Posted by tomdkat

How does the Bravo handle non-anamorphic material?

It's actually pretty good for most people. It has a zoom mode which crops the top and bottom like most TVs can do. This would work well for most people, but not for me. The problem with the zoom mode on the Bravo is that it does not allow subtitles to be active at all while using the zoom. And as we discussed in that other thread long ago, that's important to me and the Toshiba is fantastic in that respect.