Tube SACD player.....yummy!

[Iguana Man]

I've got to stop this madness. I'm already looking at a separate cd player to mate with my two tube amps for SACD stereo sound. Not only that, it will be used ONLY for stereo sound and no multichannel stuff since it will only be pumped into the tube mono blocs and from their, my fronts.

Someone smack some sense into me..please....and make it hurt.

Introducing, the Shanling SCD-T200 CD/SACD player (with volume control).

[Wirehed]

Oh man! That's hot.

[med]

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

Someone smack some sense into me..please....and make it hurt.

Introducing, the Shanling SCD-T200 CD/SACD player (with volume control).

**SMACK****SMACK****SENSE**SMACK**PAIN**SENSE**SMACK**!!!@#!*

I dunno man, if I was in your position I would be pretty tempted! Something like that looks like it could melt the paint right off your walls with it's sweetness.

Then again, the weak software support for SACD would steer me away.. I havn't seen many reasons to upgrade my Denon DVD-2900. It does SACD well enough for me. Then again, I don't have a single vacuum tube in sight.

I don't even WANT to know how much that thing would cost...

And it certainly is beautiful

[Wirehed]

It's $3500.

And it only plays 2 channel sources, which is weird in that it's otherwise a SACD player. (that means it can't play DVD-A or multi channel SACD, which is a majority of the library)


It's cute, but it looks like a first gen product toward the end of the technologies life cycle.

[Iguana Man]

Originally Posted by Seamonkey

It's $3500.

And it only plays 2 channel sources, which is weird in that it's otherwise a SACD player. (that means it can't play DVD-A or multi channel SACD, which is a majority of the library)


It's cute, but it looks like a first gen product toward the end of the technologies life cycle.

Crap! Really? I mean, I'm looking at this thing as I said...for 2chl only and SACD 2cnl only. I ain't interested in multichannel...I simply don't care for it.

And it's $2500 Sea'.

What makeS ya think it's first gen?

Just curious dude.

[Sycho]

Originally Posted by med

Then again, I don't have a single vacuum tube in sight.

not even a CRT?

[Iguana Man]

Originally Posted by med

**SMACK****SMACK****SENSE**SMACK**PAIN**SENSE**SMACK**!!!@#!*

MAY I HAVE ANOTHER....SIR!!

[Ruined]

SACD is pretty much dead

[EM3]

Shouldn't you wait for the tube versions for multi channel?

[Iguana Man]

I hate you all.

Not really....but you get my drift.

[med]

Originally Posted by Sycho

not even a CRT?

Dangit! I knew I'd get snagged on something...

Ok, I'll rephrase... My THEATRE doesn't have a single vacuum tube in sight. My comp monitor would be the only tube in the apartment. I'll just pretend for my statement's sake that they aren't in the same room

[Wirehed]

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

Crap! Really? I mean, I'm looking at this thing as I said...for 2chl only and SACD 2cnl only. I ain't interested in multichannel...I simply don't care for it.

But that's where the future is headed. I don't care for multi channel music either, but I don't think I would spend that kind of money on something most likely not able to play state of the art music.

[dugpa]

Nice! I'd buy it in a minute if it supported multichannel sacd. Normally I like the stereo versions better, but there are a few exceptions, such as Dark Side of the Moon, where I want to be able to listen to 5.1. If they bring out a multichannel version, I'm so there!

[Iguana Man]

Hmmmm...you dudes got me thinking. It is alot for what I want, and again, that is a tube based cd player with volume control. The 2chl SACD part was simply an added bonus in my mind. Remember, I'm trying to create a completely separate tube based 2chl rig into my HT. If I want to listen to DVD-Audio and SACD multichannel, I still can thru the Denon 3910 if I ever get off my ass and order 6 analog cables (Yes Taxi, I still haven't ordered them ).

So...I dunno...the search continues...maybe.

PS..Ruined, whatcha mean SACD is nearly dead?

[Wirehed]

If you want a full tube based 2 channel system then I would recoment a record player and start collecting Vinyl. It's analog and fits your whole theme so much better than Redbook.

This looks like a style over substance thing to me. Yes, it's sexy as hell, but I don't think it's going to give you better sound (for the money).

[Iguana Man]

Originally Posted by Seamonkey

If you want a full tube based 2 channel system then I would recoment a record player and start collecting Vinyl. It's analog and fits your whole theme so much better than Redbook.

This looks like a style over substance thing to me. Yes, it's sexy as hell, but I don't think it's going to give you better sound (for the money).

Advice taken...thanks.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Seamonkey

If you want a full tube based 2 channel system then I would recoment a record player and start collecting Vinyl. It's analog and fits your whole theme so much better than Redbook.

This looks like a style over substance thing to me. Yes, it's sexy as hell, but I don't think it's going to give you better sound (for the money).

Not to mention Tube CD players (not sacd) can be gotten for likely much cheaper than this player and have the same desired effect. I think DualDisc pretty much killed any chance of SACD going anywhere.

[mrkeeling]

I tend to agree with Seamonkey.

If two channels is all you want than turntable is the way.

[Iguana Man]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Not to mention Tube CD players (not sacd) can be gotten for likely much cheaper than this player and have the same desired effect. I think DualDisc pretty much killed any chance of SACD going anywhere.

I don't get it...I thought SACD had higher resolution, ergo better sound. What's dual disc got to do with it?

And MrK', I somehow knew that would bring you out.

[dugpa]

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

I don't get it...I thought SACD had higher resolution, ergo better sound. What's dual disc got to do with it?

The point he was trying to make is that sacd never gained consumer acceptance, whereas dualdiscs have. So few sacds are being released anymore, instead record companies are putting out dualdiscs (which can have high resolution but rarely do).

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by dugpa

The point he was trying to make is that sacd never gained consumer acceptance, whereas dualdiscs have. So few sacds are being released anymore, instead record companies are putting out dualdiscs (which can have high resolution but rarely do).

Right, and further if the DualDisc does have high resolution audio its generally in either plain old PCM or DVD-A format and not SACD.

[Iguana Man]

I'm back to post # 10.

Damnit!

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by EM3

Shouldn't you wait for the tube versions for multi channel?

The audiophiles that would buy this type of thing think multichannel is the devil, so its likely not something that would come out in multichannel - especially when you factor in the significant price increase of having a SACD player with 2ch tube preamp vs. 6ch tube preamp.

The real question is what is the point of buying an SACD player when the SACD format is virtually dead. A CD player with a tube preamp stage would likely be much cheaper (probably under $1500). Then again, if you can get a really good price on this unit, go for it.

[mrkeeling]

I would not agree that SACD is dead.
There are 3547 titles available in SACD format.

There are 46 SACD titles available for preorder on Acoustic Sounds web site (only 14 titles on DVD-a/DualDisc)

There is 20 stereo SACD titles and 42 multichannel SACD titles available for preorder on Elusive Discs web site (only 14 DVD-a titles and 20 DualDisc titles)

I do not think that DualDisc is doing anything to SACD, but it looks like that it is (unfortunately) killing DVD-a.

I prefer DVD-a to SACD, but I’ll get the music that I like in either format. I absolutely hate DualDisc.

[Iguana Man]

I'm gonna be honest, as much as I hate to admit it, Sea' hit it with the 'sexy as hell' comment.

I saw her, and needed to have her.

Now, that don't mean I'm down for the count boys and girls, it just means I'm out looking again. She may not end up being a Supermodel, but I will have at the very least a tube based (trailer queen?) cd player soon.

[Wirehed]

Ummm, not to be rude or anything, but have you actually listened to this thing? Expensive and "tubes" doesn't automatically mean it's the best thing ever.

I would seriously compare it to a solid state high end CD player before I bought it. Compare it to Meridian and Arcam, Lexicon, even Rotel players before making a purchase.

[Iguana Man]

Originally Posted by Seamonkey

Ummm, not to be rude or anything, but have you actually listened to this thing? Expensive and "tubes" doesn't automatically mean it's the best thing ever.

You ain't being rude dude. Come on, you can smack me harder that that. And no. I haven't. And I know the automatic ain't ever automatic. However, since I already blew a load on those 6packs, logic tells me a tube based CD player is more in line sonically. However...see below.

I would seriously compare it to a solid state high end CD player before I bought it. Compare it to Meridian and Arcam, Lexicon, even Rotel players before making a purchase

Yes...those too are in the playing field. In fact, I gotta call the place I bought the 6packs from to tell me what CD player was feeding those 6packs to speakers during my audition. It was NOT tube based from what I remember.