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tomdkat · 03-04-2006, 05:06 PM

That is the title of an article in the March 2006 issue of Home Theater magazine. Basically, it talks about some HDTVs not actually processing 1080i fully but taking 540 lines (one interlaced field) and upsampling to a 1080 line frame and displaying that.

Why is that done? So cheaper de-interlacing gear can be used.

In any event, read the article. It has a chart of current TVs that passed or failed a 1080i test they conducted.

Peace...

Iguana Man · 03-04-2006, 05:28 PM

Figures....I just let my subscription lapse. Well....off to the store I go!

(why do I get the feeling my tv is going to be listed?

)

**SidcupMartin** · 03-04-2006, 05:38 PM

I have a feeling mine isn't

christ, I hope not...

Vonner · 03-04-2006, 05:53 PM

Anyone care to post the list of TVs doing this?

tomdkat · 03-04-2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vonner

Anyone care to post the list of TVs doing this?

I don't care to but the list DID explicitly state Vonner's HDTV failed the test since it took the 540 lines, split those in half, reversed them, and upconverted that to 475p and displayed it.

Peace...

Iguana Man · 03-04-2006, 10:14 PM

The store I went to didn't have the March issue.

Did mine fail? JVC-52Z575? Come on man...I'll sell ya PH's Elite receiver at a huge discount.

Vonner · 03-04-2006, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomdkat

I don't care to but the list DID explicitly state Vonner's HDTV failed the test since it took the 540 lines, split those in half, reversed them, and upconverted that to 475p and displayed it.

Peace...

Dammit! I always get screwed in these things.

Iguana Man · 03-04-2006, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vonner

Dammit! I always get screwed in these things.

I think he was messing with ya man....but if not, sorry.

It's funny how he's created a panic of sorts and yet...do any of us really care what Home Theater says? I don't.

(tell me my tv passed! puhleez!!!!!!

)

Vonner · 03-04-2006, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

I think he was messing with ya man....but if not, sorry.

What!?

Man, I can't take these mood swings.

**SilentBob** · 03-05-2006, 06:57 AM

I hope mine passed . . . but i have it set to 720p anyways. So i tend to think i'm ok

Tom its a Hitachi RP LCD Model #50V525. Feel free to check. . . . please

tomdkat · 03-05-2006, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

Did mine fail? JVC-52Z575?

It wasn't tested. They tested about 50 or so LCD, plasma, and DLP TVs.

EDIT: 54 sets were tested, 28 passed and 26 didn't.

Peace...

tomdkat · 03-05-2006, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

(tell me my tv passed! puhleez!!!!!!

)

Your TV passed! Happy now?

Peace...

tomdkat · 03-05-2006, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentBob

Tom its a Hitachi RP LCD Model #50V525. Feel free to check. . . . please

Thanks for giving me permission to check on your TV for you.

Feel free to pick up a copy of the magazine...

Your TV wasn't tested BUT the one Hitachi that was tested, the 60VX915 @ 720p did pass.

EDIT: For all you 1080p 'nutz' out there, here is something to chew on. Three 1080p sets by Mitsubishi (WD-52627 (DLP), WD-73927 (DLP), WD-62627 (DLP)) did not pass their test.

Peace...

Vonner · 03-05-2006, 05:20 PM

As long as your looking, tomdkat, how about gandering for a Toshiba 56HM195 (DLP). Your effort would be much appreciated by someone, I'm sure.

tomdkat · 03-05-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vonner

As long as your looking, tomdkat, how about gandering for a Toshiba 56HM195 (DLP). Your effort would be much appreciated by someone, I'm sure.

How much appreciation would there be? How would that appreciation be expressed?

I just so happen to be looking at the Toshiba section of the test results. There are three Toshiba sets listed.

The 56HM195

Spoiler (Highlight or Triple Click to Read):
wears granny panties!

So, there you have it.

Sorry guys, no more lookups by me. One question that has surprisingly not been asked (shame on all of you) is what test did they perform on the TVs to determine if the set processed 1080i fully or not.

Pick up the magazine and read the article.

Peace...

tomdkat · 08-29-2006, 11:40 PM

Someone on AVS Forum posted a link to this article, so you can read it for yourself.

Peace...

ganthc · 08-31-2006, 06:34 PM

My tv passed, but it was weird that it was tested on 720p instead of 1080i. Why would that have been done?

Wurms · 09-07-2006, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomdkat

Your TV passed! Happy now?

Peace...

WHEW! I got the same set

YA!!!!!

EM3 · 09-07-2006, 01:27 PM

Well out of the three sets I am looking at one was tested and passed. It is the Sony 42 inch Grand Wega 42 A10 LCD model. The other two Philips 42 inch LCD 42PF7421D wasn't tested and neither was the 42 inch Westighouse 1080P monitor.

ganthc · 09-07-2006, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EM3

Well out of the three sets I am looking at one was tested and passed. It is the Sony 42 inch Grand Wega 42 A10 LCD model.

It's a winner!

Rileydog · 09-07-2006, 08:41 PM

is there a newer test done?

am I correct in that this was done on 2005 models?

I got an e-mail about a great sale at Circuit City,and most of the models are not on that test for Panasonic or Samsung.

tomdkat · 09-07-2006, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rileydog

is there a newer test done?

am I correct in that this was done on 2005 models?

You'll have to contact the magazine and ask them.

Quote:

I got an e-mail about a great sale at Circuit City,and most of the models are not on that test for Panasonic or Samsung.

Most of the HDTVs on the market weren't part of the test. I'm not sure how you would confirm if any given HDTV displays the full 1080 resolution or not. Maybe sticking with brands and models close to the ones that were tested is a starting point.

Peace...

EM3 · 09-08-2006, 11:58 AM

ARGH! I just looked at the CC website and the 42in Sony was gone

. Well the wife and I are going tomorrow to see if the store has one. On the bright side they do have the larger 46 inch model.

Hurry up Christmas.

Called the 2 nearest CC's and neither had them. So I check Sony's website and it has been taken off it. My advice if you have been waiting now is the time to buy it if you can find it.

tomdkat · 10-21-2006, 03:52 PM

Great news! The November 2006 issue of Home Theater magazine has an update to this test, where they test 61 current HD displays, including Plasma, LCD, DLP (RP), and LCoS TVs. This time around, they added a 3:2 cadence test.

What I found most interesting is none of the Panasonic Plasma TVs passed the 3:2 cadence test (using factory default settings, at least) where the two Pioneer Plasmas tested did pass.

Anywho, this issue is definitely worth picking up!

Peace...

PunkMunkey · 10-21-2006, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomdkat

Great news! The November 2006 issue of Home Theater magazine has an update to this test, where they test 61 current HD displays, including Plasma, LCD, DLP (RP), and LCoS TVs. This time around, they added a 3:2 cadence test.

LINK to test results.

03-04-2006, 05:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
tomdkat Official Forum Warmonger "Dial Tone" Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hayward, CA, USA	Are you getting all the HDTV resolution you expected? That is the title of an article in the March 2006 issue of Home Theater magazine. Basically, it talks about some HDTVs not actually processing 1080i fully but taking 540 lines (one interlaced field) and upsampling to a 1080 line frame and displaying that. Why is that done? So cheaper de-interlacing gear can be used. In any event, read the article. It has a chart of current TVs that passed or failed a 1080i test they conducted. Peace... __________________ My DVD Aficionado List "At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!"

03-04-2006, 05:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	Figures....I just let my subscription lapse. Well....off to the store I go! (why do I get the feeling my tv is going to be listed? ) __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

03-04-2006, 05:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
SidcupMartin Director/Moderator Captain Paranoia Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA	I have a feeling mine isn't christ, I hope not... __________________ eternally putting the kettle on

03-04-2006, 05:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Vonner Previously, on '24'... Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Minnesota	Anyone care to post the list of TVs doing this? __________________ I was inappropriately blunt, wasn't I? I do that a lot. - Chloe O'Brian

03-04-2006, 10:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	The store I went to didn't have the March issue. Did mine fail? JVC-52Z575? Come on man...I'll sell ya PH's Elite receiver at a huge discount. __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

03-05-2006, 06:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
SilentBob Silent Director/Silent Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Burlington, Ontario	I hope mine passed . . . but i have it set to 720p anyways. So i tend to think i'm ok Tom its a Hitachi RP LCD Model #50V525. Feel free to check. . . . please __________________ SilentBob's DVD's Supporting both HD-DVD and Blu-ray XBOX LIVE: luvthempocket8s PS3 ONLINE: pokerlover

03-05-2006, 05:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Vonner Previously, on '24'... Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Minnesota	As long as your looking, tomdkat, how about gandering for a Toshiba 56HM195 (DLP). Your effort would be much appreciated by someone, I'm sure. __________________ I was inappropriately blunt, wasn't I? I do that a lot. - Chloe O'Brian

08-29-2006, 11:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
tomdkat Official Forum Warmonger "Dial Tone" Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hayward, CA, USA	Someone on AVS Forum posted a link to this article, so you can read it for yourself. Peace... __________________ My DVD Aficionado List "At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!"

08-31-2006, 06:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
ganthc Actor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: "Vyenna", VA	My tv passed, but it was weird that it was tested on 720p instead of 1080i. Why would that have been done? __________________ HOOK'EM!!! UT LONGHORNS - National Champs 2005-2006!!! http://ganthc.youaremighty.com

09-07-2006, 01:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
EM3 "Suspended" Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Southern WV	Well out of the three sets I am looking at one was tested and passed. It is the Sony 42 inch Grand Wega 42 A10 LCD model. The other two Philips 42 inch LCD 42PF7421D wasn't tested and neither was the 42 inch Westighouse 1080P monitor. __________________ The beatings will continue until morale improves!

09-07-2006, 08:41 PM	#21 (permalink)
Rileydog Actor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Simpsonville, SC, U.S.	is there a newer test done? am I correct in that this was done on 2005 models? I got an e-mail about a great sale at Circuit City,and most of the models are not on that test for Panasonic or Samsung.

09-08-2006, 11:58 AM	#23 (permalink)
EM3 "Suspended" Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Southern WV	ARGH! I just looked at the CC website and the 42in Sony was gone . Well the wife and I are going tomorrow to see if the store has one. On the bright side they do have the larger 46 inch model. Hurry up Christmas. Called the 2 nearest CC's and neither had them. So I check Sony's website and it has been taken off it. My advice if you have been waiting now is the time to buy it if you can find it. __________________ The beatings will continue until morale improves! Last edited by EM3 : 09-08-2006 at 04:05 PM.

10-21-2006, 03:52 PM	#24 (permalink)
tomdkat Official Forum Warmonger "Dial Tone" Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hayward, CA, USA	Great news! The November 2006 issue of Home Theater magazine has an update to this test, where they test 61 current HD displays, including Plasma, LCD, DLP (RP), and LCoS TVs. This time around, they added a 3:2 cadence test. What I found most interesting is none of the Panasonic Plasma TVs passed the 3:2 cadence test (using factory default settings, at least) where the two Pioneer Plasmas tested did pass. Anywho, this issue is definitely worth picking up! Peace... __________________ My DVD Aficionado List "At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!"

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