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esc · 03-09-2006, 08:03 AM

I just sent a couple of PMs to people around the forum who own projectors asking a few questions about thier hardware and opinions on some of the toys I am intending on buying.

The live MSN chats have been dead for about a year now, and I was thinking it would be great to get back together for at least one more and instead of discussing a film, everyone who owns a projector or wants to know more about PJs could get together and chat about the pros and cons of their models. The discussion would probably branch off into all areas of home theater gear.

Its just about go-time for me and my theater room (finally) and I'd like all the input I could get. Even if there were just 3-5 projector/higher end HT owners chatting about their hardware, I think that would be a great fountain of knowledge for a proj-noob like myself.

what do you think ? should we give the live chats one more go ?

***chlngr1970*** · 03-09-2006, 02:16 PM

I think it will all depend on when you want to do it. If it is around 5P PST, then I'm game

j

Pirate · 03-09-2006, 05:32 PM

Esc and Iguana,

I wanted to go ahead and post this to see if this helps you and if Iggy agrees or has anything to add since we don't have a live chat yet.

The first thing I want to note is that both of these PJs have lens shift which you really, really want. That feature has been a life saver!

Sanyo Z4:
Brightness: 1000 ANSI
Contrast: 7000:1
Lens Shift: Yes
Compatibility: HDTV /1080i / 720p / 575i / 575p
HDMI (HDCP): Yes
Resolution: 1280x720 Pixels
Native: 16x9
Price: $1800 and up

Sony HS60:
Brightness: 1200 ANSI
Contrast: 10000:1
Lens Shift: Yes
Compatibility: HDTV /1080i / 720p
HDMI (HDCP): Yes
Resolution: 1280x720 Pixels
Native: 16x9
Price: $2700 and up.

So, from what I can tell, if you pay the extra money for the Sony, you are getting a brighter PJ with better contrast. On the other hand, if the room your HT is in is light controlled, this won’t make a huge difference. My HT is completely light controlled and my Z2 only has 800 lumens and a 1300:1 contrast and my picture is plenty bright.

My opinion would be to go with the Sanyo and use the extra cash to buy one of the new HD players so you can take advantage of the HDMI. The Sony is a smidge better, but I can’t see paying an extra thousand.

On the other hand, if you get the Z4, Iggy and I will be so jealous that we'll be forced to kill you.

-PH

Pirate · 03-09-2006, 11:07 PM

Damnit, now I want a Z4.

Damn you esc!

-PH

Pirate · 03-10-2006, 12:26 AM

Since we are on this topic, where do you guys (Z2 owners) keep your sharpness set? If I remember correctly, DVE has you turn it almost completely down.

-PH

Iguana Man · 03-10-2006, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratehunter

Since we are on this topic, where do you guys (Z2 owners) keep your sharpness set? If I remember correctly, DVE has you turn it almost completely down.

-PH

All my settings (Z2) are set to zero. The middle for this diddle!

(ps..17:00PST is 20:00EST...I'm getting into my sleepy mode by then...sorry)

Pirate · 03-10-2006, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iguana Man

All my settings (Z2) are set to zero. The middle for this diddle!

(ps..17:00PST is 20:00EST...I'm sleepy sleepy then...sorry)

I have no idea what you just said.

-PH

Iguana Man · 03-10-2006, 12:38 AM

I was replying to Challenger....and I edited my reply for that matter which should explain my problem!

esc · 03-11-2006, 03:23 AM

I just found a hell of a deal from a Canadian supplier on the projector I am 99% sure that I am getting, so lets make this chat happen soon. when this week is good for people? I should be good Tuesday the 14th, Thursday the 16th, or even any time in the eveing on Sunday the 12th (tomorrow).

lets say 6 or 7pm Mountain time on one of those days.

esc · 03-16-2006, 05:25 AM

Hardware/Projector chat happening Thursday night at 6pm on the west coast, 7pm mountain, 9pm on the east coast.

Lots of you have received PMs already... basically the whole old movie chat crowd

Iguana Man · 03-17-2006, 12:52 AM

PH - I just read my post(s) above and all I can say is I haven't a clue as to what I was saying.

Ok, it's only 7pm for me, I may make a an effort to reach sobriety in the next 2 hours....ESC (or anyone) care to tell me how to gimp into the fray?

esc · 03-17-2006, 02:26 AM

get MSN mesenger (messenger.msn.com)
install it
add dvdfilelivechat@hotmail.com to your contact list
or i you use Trillian or some other IM prog you can get on that way.

Taxi · 03-17-2006, 06:07 PM

Did anybody save a transcript of the chat?

Sycho · 03-17-2006, 06:42 PM

ya, i got it...

andrew says: (y)/(n)? [thumbs up/thumbs down in msn talk]
esc says: thats the question.

so yah, there didn't seem to be a chat, talked for a bit before it started... Someone's baby is due today

.

Iguana Man · 03-17-2006, 07:37 PM

I'll be honest....I crashed and burned early last night.

Taxi · 03-17-2006, 09:12 PM

Yeah, it's tougher than people think to get a large group together all at the same time.

Too bad.

esc · 03-20-2006, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taxi

Too bad.

ya, we'll try again some day if I see a bunch of us online at the same time. the chats were rolling along pretty hot and heavy last year, but interest has totally died off now. ah well, while it lasted, 2001, Alien and Pulp were great chats.

Pirate · 03-20-2006, 09:53 PM

Shit! Sorry man, I forgot all about it.

-PH

esc · 03-20-2006, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratehunter

Shit! Sorry man, I forgot all about it.

-PH

well log onto MSN every once in a while dude

03-09-2006, 08:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
esc Stay behind my aura! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: camrose, alberta, canada	Projector Owners Unite! Hardware Live MSN chat(s) I just sent a couple of PMs to people around the forum who own projectors asking a few questions about thier hardware and opinions on some of the toys I am intending on buying. The live MSN chats have been dead for about a year now, and I was thinking it would be great to get back together for at least one more and instead of discussing a film, everyone who owns a projector or wants to know more about PJs could get together and chat about the pros and cons of their models. The discussion would probably branch off into all areas of home theater gear. Its just about go-time for me and my theater room (finally) and I'd like all the input I could get. Even if there were just 3-5 projector/higher end HT owners chatting about their hardware, I think that would be a great fountain of knowledge for a proj-noob like myself. what do you think ? should we give the live chats one more go ? __________________ "I guess I'm just not used to being chased around a mall in the middle of the night by killer robots." -Linda, Chopping Mall

03-09-2006, 02:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
*chlngr1970* Producer/Admin Tenacious "OB" Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Spanaway Washington	I think it will all depend on when you want to do it. If it is around 5P PST, then I'm game j __________________ "The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and be loved in return" Christian, Moulin Rouge

03-09-2006, 05:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pirate Moderator Emeritus Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	Esc and Iguana, I wanted to go ahead and post this to see if this helps you and if Iggy agrees or has anything to add since we don't have a live chat yet. The first thing I want to note is that both of these PJs have lens shift which you really, really want. That feature has been a life saver! Sanyo Z4: Brightness: 1000 ANSI Contrast: 7000:1 Lens Shift: Yes Compatibility: HDTV /1080i / 720p / 575i / 575p HDMI (HDCP): Yes Resolution: 1280x720 Pixels Native: 16x9 Price: $1800 and up Sony HS60: Brightness: 1200 ANSI Contrast: 10000:1 Lens Shift: Yes Compatibility: HDTV /1080i / 720p HDMI (HDCP): Yes Resolution: 1280x720 Pixels Native: 16x9 Price: $2700 and up. So, from what I can tell, if you pay the extra money for the Sony, you are getting a brighter PJ with better contrast. On the other hand, if the room your HT is in is light controlled, this won’t make a huge difference. My HT is completely light controlled and my Z2 only has 800 lumens and a 1300:1 contrast and my picture is plenty bright. My opinion would be to go with the Sanyo and use the extra cash to buy one of the new HD players so you can take advantage of the HDMI. The Sony is a smidge better, but I can’t see paying an extra thousand. On the other hand, if you get the Z4, Iggy and I will be so jealous that we'll be forced to kill you. -PH __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

03-09-2006, 11:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pirate Moderator Emeritus Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	Damnit, now I want a Z4. Damn you esc! -PH __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

03-10-2006, 12:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pirate Moderator Emeritus Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	Since we are on this topic, where do you guys (Z2 owners) keep your sharpness set? If I remember correctly, DVE has you turn it almost completely down. -PH __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

03-10-2006, 12:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	I was replying to Challenger....and I edited my reply for that matter which should explain my problem! __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

03-11-2006, 03:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
esc Stay behind my aura! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: camrose, alberta, canada	I just found a hell of a deal from a Canadian supplier on the projector I am 99% sure that I am getting, so lets make this chat happen soon. when this week is good for people? I should be good Tuesday the 14th, Thursday the 16th, or even any time in the eveing on Sunday the 12th (tomorrow). lets say 6 or 7pm Mountain time on one of those days. __________________ "I guess I'm just not used to being chased around a mall in the middle of the night by killer robots." -Linda, Chopping Mall

03-16-2006, 05:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
esc Stay behind my aura! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: camrose, alberta, canada	Hardware/Projector chat happening Thursday night at 6pm on the west coast, 7pm mountain, 9pm on the east coast. Lots of you have received PMs already... basically the whole old movie chat crowd

03-17-2006, 12:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	PH - I just read my post(s) above and all I can say is I haven't a clue as to what I was saying. Ok, it's only 7pm for me, I may make a an effort to reach sobriety in the next 2 hours....ESC (or anyone) care to tell me how to gimp into the fray? __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

03-17-2006, 02:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
esc Stay behind my aura! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: camrose, alberta, canada	get MSN mesenger (messenger.msn.com) install it add dvdfilelivechat@hotmail.com to your contact list or i you use Trillian or some other IM prog you can get on that way.

03-17-2006, 06:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
Taxi Admin Emeritus Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Orygun	Did anybody save a transcript of the chat? __________________ *Admin Emeritus* \| DDS#42 No, I am not back. Eschew obfuscation.

03-17-2006, 06:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
Sycho I needs to show ID with a personal check Join Date: Dec 2003	ya, i got it... andrew says: (y)/(n)? [thumbs up/thumbs down in msn talk] esc says: thats the question. so yah, there didn't seem to be a chat, talked for a bit before it started... Someone's baby is due today .

03-17-2006, 07:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	I'll be honest....I crashed and burned early last night. __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

03-17-2006, 09:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
Taxi Admin Emeritus Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Orygun	Yeah, it's tougher than people think to get a large group together all at the same time. Too bad. __________________ *Admin Emeritus* \| DDS#42 No, I am not back. Eschew obfuscation.

03-20-2006, 09:53 PM	#18 (permalink)
Pirate Moderator Emeritus Loves Yellow Subtitles Join Date: Jun 2003	Shit! Sorry man, I forgot all about it. -PH __________________ Early Adopting So You Don’t Have To.

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