American Pie 2: Half-baked transfer - DVDfile.com forum for DVD, Blu-Ray, and HD-DVD

Indyphantom · 01-15-2002, 09:39 PM

Why did Universal try to jam so much onto a single disc? The trailer for "The Bourne Identity" looks better than the feature. This should have been spread over 2 discs with all the audio tracks. (Like Universal did with Cape Fear). This image is not terrible, but it is really dark making it look like your watching something through a neutral density filter.

I was disappointed to see this. The bonus features and all are nice, but I think Universal has dropped the ball this time and sacrificed transfer quality. I was surprised. Picked up Tron also, and that transfer completely blows AP2 away.

Surprising also because THE FAST & THE FURIOUS looked so good. I'm pretty forgiving with transfers, but I thought something was off on my calibration until I popped in Tron. I read a review at DVDtalk just a minute ago, and it says the same thing. Too much! This disc is like the anti-superbit.

Anyone else find this?

SolidSnakeASS · 01-15-2002, 11:02 PM

Well when they release the Ultimate Edition this will be fixed.

Flash Ahhh · 01-16-2002, 02:08 AM

Here's Dan Ramer's comments from DVD File:

The film's theatrical aspect ratio of 1.85:1 is presented in anamorphic video. I'm pleased to report that edge halos are rare and not at all intrusive. Small object detail is excellent; the little numerals on Jim's home are clearly readable in a wide shot. Colors are rich and nicely saturated. Chroma noise and smearing are totally absent. Contrast and brightness track well throughout the full video dynamic range. Shadow detail during dark scenes, like when Jim and Michelle meet secretly at band camp, is commendable. Compression artifacts like blocking and mosquito noise are not visible. The overall effect is very film-like, and that's what I most want in my DVDs.

-Flash

AnonomusBob15 · 01-16-2002, 02:09 AM

I picked this up today. Yes, I agree, this should have been 2 discs, but I really found nothing wrong with the picture. What I did have a problem with were the menus, so annoying the way they did the main menu....

By the way, with 4 audio commentaries, making of, DTS, and a bunch of other stuff, I doubt there will be an Ultimate Edition for a really long time.

***1138*** · 01-16-2002, 02:56 AM

Also, the only thing space issues wuold cause is compression artifacts. The colors and brightness is all about the transfer itself, for the most part.

MARVEL · 01-16-2002, 04:03 AM

The first movie didn't have the best transfer either. Their still basically well marketed low budget teen movies.

Chris Knight · 01-16-2002, 05:47 AM

I just got through watching AP2 and I too noticed that the colors seemed a bit oversaturated and the picture was a little dark in some scenes.

Also, can somebody tell what was so unrated about the "unrated version". It looked like the SAME version that I saw in theaters. Maybe I'm missing something?

Indyphantom · 01-16-2002, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Chris Knight
I just got through watching AP2 and I too noticed that the colors seemed a bit oversaturated and the picture was a little dark in some scenes.

Also, can somebody tell what was so unrated about the "unrated version". It looked like the SAME version that I saw in theaters. Maybe I'm missing something?

Chris, thanks for agreeing with me. There have been reports on other sites, but none here. There is something up with this transfer. I watched TOMBSTONE right after it, and the difference was staggering. American Pie 2 actually made me check my calbration. Disappointing.

I can't really pinpoint anything different than theatres. I think some of the raunchier scenes may have a few extra seconds, but damn if I can find them. Same thing was up with the original.

Heckalaska · 01-16-2002, 01:35 PM

I noticed the same thing. And besides the weak transfer, somebody freakin tell me why I saw a couple of deleted scenes on some damn entertainment news show that were not on the @#$(* disc!??? This collector's edition, then a few months later the real ultimate editions comes out - is crap. If they start working on the damn dvd as soon as the movie is completed, they maybe could do it right the first time. But, who am I kidding, where's the repeat buys in that???

lord of Diaz · 01-17-2002, 03:23 AM

I'm just wondering about the Lord Farqad cameo????

Damian · 01-17-2002, 03:47 PM

I found it to be a litte dark in some scenes as well. One that comes to mind is when the guys were sitting on the curb talking about moving to the beach. That scene seemed a bit dark and grainy. Maybe that goes hand in hand?

01-15-2002, 09:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Indyphantom Forum Lothario Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: the black lodge...	American Pie 2: Half-baked transfer Why did Universal try to jam so much onto a single disc? The trailer for "The Bourne Identity" looks better than the feature. This should have been spread over 2 discs with all the audio tracks. (Like Universal did with Cape Fear). This image is not terrible, but it is really dark making it look like your watching something through a neutral density filter. I was disappointed to see this. The bonus features and all are nice, but I think Universal has dropped the ball this time and sacrificed transfer quality. I was surprised. Picked up Tron also, and that transfer completely blows AP2 away. Surprising also because THE FAST & THE FURIOUS looked so good. I'm pretty forgiving with transfers, but I thought something was off on my calibration until I popped in Tron. I read a review at DVDtalk just a minute ago, and it says the same thing. Too much! This disc is like the anti-superbit. Anyone else find this?

01-16-2002, 02:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Flash Ahhh Moderator Emeritus Well Worth the Double Dip! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: 8.4 Miles from the newest Hooters Restaurant	Here's Dan Ramer's comments from DVD File: The film's theatrical aspect ratio of 1.85:1 is presented in anamorphic video. I'm pleased to report that edge halos are rare and not at all intrusive. Small object detail is excellent; the little numerals on Jim's home are clearly readable in a wide shot. Colors are rich and nicely saturated. Chroma noise and smearing are totally absent. Contrast and brightness track well throughout the full video dynamic range. Shadow detail during dark scenes, like when Jim and Michelle meet secretly at band camp, is commendable. Compression artifacts like blocking and mosquito noise are not visible. The overall effect is very film-like, and that's what I most want in my DVDs. -Flash __________________ Flash - Moderator Emeritus - Savior of the Universe Criterion (krî´tir´èæn) Greek [kritËreon], *Noun.* (circa 1622) - Definitiveness. Set standard. Principle, rule or test upon which value or decision can be based. Characterization in which all others are judged.

01-16-2002, 02:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
AnonomusBob15 Actor for over 4 years now! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Auburn University	Re I picked this up today. Yes, I agree, this should have been 2 discs, but I really found nothing wrong with the picture. What I did have a problem with were the menus, so annoying the way they did the main menu.... By the way, with 4 audio commentaries, making of, DTS, and a bunch of other stuff, I doubt there will be an Ultimate Edition for a really long time. __________________ The Revised DVD Collection

01-16-2002, 02:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
*1138* Producer/Admin Careful, or I'll ban myself... Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Also, the only thing space issues wuold cause is compression artifacts. The colors and brightness is all about the transfer itself, for the most part. __________________ Administrator I got a rock and roll band. I got a rock and roll life. I got a rock and roll girlfriend. And another ex-wife.

01-16-2002, 04:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
MARVEL Actor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: 30 miles north of Cinderella's castle, FL	The first movie didn't have the best transfer either. Their still basically well marketed low budget teen movies. __________________ F-L-O-R-I-D-A S-T-A-T-E Florida State, Florida State, Florida State, WHOOOOO!!!! You've got to Fight Fight Fight ........

01-15-2002, 11:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
SolidSnakeASS Actor Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Winterpeg, Manitobaugh, Canada	Well when they release the Ultimate Edition this will be fixed.

01-16-2002, 05:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
Chris Knight 1 of 10 "Actors" left Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chicagoland	I just got through watching AP2 and I too noticed that the colors seemed a bit oversaturated and the picture was a little dark in some scenes. Also, can somebody tell what was so unrated about the "unrated version". It looked like the SAME version that I saw in theaters. Maybe I'm missing something?

01-16-2002, 01:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Heckalaska Actor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Littleport, England	I noticed the same thing. And besides the weak transfer, somebody freakin tell me why I saw a couple of deleted scenes on some damn entertainment news show that were not on the @#$(* disc!??? This collector's edition, then a few months later the real ultimate editions comes out - is crap. If they start working on the damn dvd as soon as the movie is completed, they maybe could do it right the first time. But, who am I kidding, where's the repeat buys in that??? __________________ 50,000 battered women and I'm still eating mine plain!?! My Collection

01-17-2002, 03:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
lord of Diaz Supporting Actor Join Date: Jan 2002	I'm just wondering about the Lord Farqad cameo????

01-17-2002, 03:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
Damian My dad can beat up your dad. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Mississippi	I found it to be a litte dark in some scenes as well. One that comes to mind is when the guys were sitting on the curb talking about moving to the beach. That scene seemed a bit dark and grainy. Maybe that goes hand in hand?

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