Usual Suspects Explained (Spoilers) - DVDfile.com forum for DVD, Blu-Ray, and HD-DVD

Riedenschneider · 08-13-2002, 02:03 AM

I just watched it for the first time, shame on me...
My head is still smokin' and my jaw is somewhere down on the couch.
So now I wanna know if I really understood the film right and want to know everything that was going on.
There must be a thousand The-U-S-explained sites out there.

Please, someone tell me the only one I have to read...
Thanks.

robarnold99 · 08-13-2002, 03:17 AM

Does this help?
http://ngwalme.freeservers.com/essays/suspects.html

Was there any specific part you weren't sure about though, maybe I could be of assistance. Personally I loved the movie!

**SidcupMartin** · 08-13-2002, 03:30 AM

Also, you could keep a close eye on http://www.dvdfile.com/interactive/f...threadid=20973

Grimace2k2 · 08-13-2002, 04:47 AM

And can you belive Siskel and Ebert gave it two thumbs DOWN! :rar:

TuerkAlert23 · 08-13-2002, 04:57 AM

WOW, siskel and ebert really didn't like it??? idiots!!!

anyone have a link to their reviews?

I also know just about everything about the movie if you have any specific questions

Grimace2k2 · 08-13-2002, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TuerkAlert23

WOW, siskel and ebert really didn't like it??? idiots!!!

anyone have a link to their reviews?

I also know just about everything about the movie if you have any specific questions

1 and 1/2 stars! Silly ebert!
Ebert's Review

Dehrian · 08-13-2002, 05:22 AM

The key thing to remember is that you're getting the story from one person's point of view, and that one person has no reason to tell the truth. So much of the story probably did not happen - or, at least, did not happen as he says it did.

Grimace2k2 · 08-13-2002, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dehrian
The key thing to remember is that you're getting the story from one person's point of view, and that one person has no reason to tell the truth. So much of the story probably did not happen - or, at least, did not happen as he says it did.

Yeah and at the end how they found the words on the wall that he used for his story. Still a great movie though.

Wurms · 08-13-2002, 07:36 AM

Uhh, you might want to SPOILER WARN your last post there, Grimace2k2

feldon23 · 08-13-2002, 04:24 PM

The topic says "Usual Suspects explained". What did you expect?

frenchy · 08-14-2002, 12:17 AM

Someone reading this who doesn't want to see spoilers probably has no business in a thread with the title that this one does, but just so nobody gets their drawers in a bunch . . . SPOILERS! AHHHH!

My take has always been that Kint told mostly the truth about all the jobs they pulled except the final one on the boat.

-If the NY's Finest Taxi job didn't happen, they could have checked it out and knew he was lying.

-Saul Berg was killed because he wouldn't hand over that darn case.

-Edie Finneran went down because she knew too much.

-Kint/Soze needed to gain the trust of the Suspects so he could use them as pawns in the final boat attack, so the heists probably happened as described, up until Kint says he was just hiding while the Suspects systematically got picked off.

Obviously, at times Kint "doesn't know" who Soze is or tells the ghost story, those just go on to the whole furthering his own legend thing, so those are facetious.

Cool tidbit from the Special Edition DVD: Keyser means King in German, Soze means Talkative. Soze was supposedly German/Turkish. King Talkative . . . someone who talks too much . . . Verbal.

KBM · 08-14-2002, 02:06 AM

Most of the explanations center around the fact that Verbal is the man. And so I thought myself until the SE came out. In one of the documentaries, the director, writer, and a couple of stars hint that this in not necessarily the only explanation...

Riedenschneider · 08-14-2002, 11:51 AM

Thanks everyone for posting.

The special edition DVD is really special. Especially the commetary by Editor/Composer John Ottman.

I think the real mistery about the film is not, if maybe Verbal/Spacey isn't Keyser Söze (he simply is) or what is true about what he's telling to Palminteri (-at the end, after telling him everything he says "I'm not a rat!"

) but what is really true and what is pure mythmaking by him about Keyser Söze.
I like the idea, that Söze/he isn't half as hardcore as he says he is, but that it's just another trick of him to scare the shit out of everyone to get his plans easier through with the other Suspects fearing this devil. Or does someone really think that neat-y Spacey looks like a familykiller or türkish?

And for me, being a turk who lives in germany this whole Keyser Söze thing is of course extra funny

08-13-2002, 02:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
Riedenschneider Actor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hamburg, Deutschland	Usual Suspects explained I just watched it for the first time, shame on me... My head is still smokin' and my jaw is somewhere down on the couch. So now I wanna know if I really understood the film right and want to know everything that was going on. There must be a thousand The-U-S-explained sites out there. Please, someone tell me the only one I have to read... Thanks. __________________ "The Hughes wealth, power and sex appeal devastated scores of broken-hearted movie stars and made grown men shudder with envy and anxiety every time he entered a room. Mr. DiCaprio just makes any logical person over 14 wonder if he ever graduated high school." -Rex Reed

08-13-2002, 03:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
robarnold99 Wants a Body Massage Join Date: Feb 2002	Does this help? http://ngwalme.freeservers.com/essays/suspects.html Was there any specific part you weren't sure about though, maybe I could be of assistance. Personally I loved the movie! __________________ I saw three of these dusters a short time ago, they were waiting for a train. Inside the dusters, there were three men. Inside the men, there were three bullets.

08-13-2002, 03:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
SidcupMartin Director/Moderator Captain Paranoia Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA	Also, you could keep a close eye on http://www.dvdfile.com/interactive/f...threadid=20973 __________________ eternally putting the kettle on

08-13-2002, 07:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
Wurms Actor Join Date: Nov 2001	Uhh, you might want to SPOILER WARN your last post there, Grimace2k2 __________________ MY DVDS "I don't hustle with people who are dishonest."

08-14-2002, 12:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
frenchy Actor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Monterey, CA	Someone reading this who doesn't want to see spoilers probably has no business in a thread with the title that this one does, but just so nobody gets their drawers in a bunch . . . SPOILERS! AHHHH! My take has always been that Kint told mostly the truth about all the jobs they pulled except the final one on the boat. -If the NY's Finest Taxi job didn't happen, they could have checked it out and knew he was lying. -Saul Berg was killed because he wouldn't hand over that darn case. -Edie Finneran went down because she knew too much. -Kint/Soze needed to gain the trust of the Suspects so he could use them as pawns in the final boat attack, so the heists probably happened as described, up until Kint says he was just hiding while the Suspects systematically got picked off. Obviously, at times Kint "doesn't know" who Soze is or tells the ghost story, those just go on to the whole furthering his own legend thing, so those are facetious. Cool tidbit from the Special Edition DVD: Keyser means King in German, Soze means Talkative. Soze was supposedly German/Turkish. King Talkative . . . someone who talks too much . . . Verbal. __________________ ƒ Movies & Music ƒ Complications of a Mastermind ƒ

08-13-2002, 04:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
Grimace2k2 Actor Join Date: Mar 2002	And can you belive Siskel and Ebert gave it two thumbs DOWN! :rar:

08-13-2002, 04:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
TuerkAlert23 Actor Join Date: May 2002	WOW, siskel and ebert really didn't like it??? idiots!!! anyone have a link to their reviews? I also know just about everything about the movie if you have any specific questions

08-13-2002, 05:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dehrian Actor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: CA	The key thing to remember is that you're getting the story from one person's point of view, and that one person has no reason to tell the truth. So much of the story probably did not happen - or, at least, did not happen as he says it did.

08-13-2002, 04:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
feldon23 Actor Join Date: Oct 2000	The topic says "Usual Suspects explained". What did you expect?

08-14-2002, 02:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
KBM Supporting Actor Join Date: Aug 2002	Most of the explanations center around the fact that Verbal is the man. And so I thought myself until the SE came out. In one of the documentaries, the director, writer, and a couple of stars hint that this in not necessarily the only explanation...

08-14-2002, 11:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
Riedenschneider Actor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hamburg, Deutschland	Thanks everyone for posting. The special edition DVD is really special. Especially the commetary by Editor/Composer John Ottman. I think the real mistery about the film is not, if maybe Verbal/Spacey isn't Keyser Söze (he simply is) or what is true about what he's telling to Palminteri (-at the end, after telling him everything he says "I'm not a rat!" ) but what is really true and what is pure mythmaking by him about Keyser Söze. I like the idea, that Söze/he isn't half as hardcore as he says he is, but that it's just another trick of him to scare the shit out of everyone to get his plans easier through with the other Suspects fearing this devil. Or does someone really think that neat-y Spacey looks like a familykiller or türkish? And for me, being a turk who lives in germany this whole Keyser Söze thing is of course extra funny __________________ "The Hughes wealth, power and sex appeal devastated scores of broken-hearted movie stars and made grown men shudder with envy and anxiety every time he entered a room. Mr. DiCaprio just makes any logical person over 14 wonder if he ever graduated high school." -Rex Reed

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