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Old 09-11-2002, 10:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How will Tarantino movies age?

As I was looking at the new special edition of Jackie Brown at best buy today, I wondered how Quentin Tarantino's films will age. Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs are two films full of popculture references, and cursing and what not. I was wondering if these qualities might hurt the films in the long run.

What do you guys think?
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Old 09-11-2002, 10:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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nicely, I think Tarantino's dialog alone is the most important part, and stands against any movie ever.

But I do not think that you can predict how movies will age.
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Old 09-11-2002, 10:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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All of his films I think have a timeless look. The set-dressing, the costumes and the popculture references are mostly "timeless" (50's - 90's). The movies that age worst are often the special effect-laden and/or conventionally told ones. Since there are no fx's in his films (Kill Bill will probably look more Shaw Brothers than Matrix) and the characters and storytelling are the most unconventional around...
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Old 09-12-2002, 12:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think they will age pretty well, especially Jackie Brown. It's such a wonderful little romance of a crime film, I think it's appeal will continue.
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Old 09-12-2002, 01:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Reservoir Dogs is 10 years old already, and it would probably knock the socks off everybody if it were released tomorrow. So I'd say they will age very well.
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Don't talk semantics with me!!!
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Some of the pop-culture stuff will date, but the brilliant filmmaking itself will remain timeless (God willing).
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Old 09-12-2002, 06:36 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Good topic. I was worried for a while that these movies were starting to date already, purely because of all the bad imitiators that they spawned, and all the "Tarantino-lite" dialogue that crept into movies in the late '90s. But seeing them all again recently has reminded me how good they are, and I think they'll be relevant for years to come.
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Yeah, I worry that all the Tarantino knockoffs might prematurely age the film or diminish its appeal. Based on the replies to this post, my concerns are unfounded, but I still think that a time might come where his movies are laughed at as people move on past his style. But that's not a bad thing. FOr quite a while, Saturday Night Fever was mocked basically for the music and fashion, and people forgot about the story & the acting. Ironically, it was Tarantino himself who helped save that movie from being a 70s punchline by bringing Travolta back to the forefront as an ACTOR as opposed to a STAR (a gracious gesture Travolta quickly ruined with his ever-increasing reservior of crap). So at some point, some day, Tarantino's style MIGHT fall out of favor, and his movies MIGHT be considered trite & cliched, then something will happen that shifts the popculture zeitgeist and his stuff will be considered cool again.
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Yeah, I worry that all the Tarantino knockoffs might prematurely age the film or diminish its appeal. Based on the replies to this post, my concerns are unfounded, but I still think that a time might come where his movies are laughed at as people move on past his style. But that's not a bad thing. FOr quite a while, Saturday Night Fever was mocked basically for the music and fashion, and people forgot about the story & the acting. Ironically, it was Tarantino himself who helped save that movie from being a 70s punchline by bringing Travolta back to the forefront as an ACTOR as opposed to a STAR (a gracious gesture Travolta quickly ruined with his ever-increasing reservior of crap). So at some point, some day, Tarantino's style MIGHT fall out of favor, and his movies MIGHT be considered trite & cliched, then something will happen that shifts the popculture zeitgeist and his stuff will be considered cool again.
Ja-haa, and then we can lean back and tell our grandchildren that we where the "tarantino-generation"...
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Reservior Dogs and Pulp Fiction have been out for 10 and 8 years respectively and they haven't aged at all. These are going to be movies like Mean Streets and Taxi Driver that will always be classics. You might recognize what era they are from but people will still be watching them 20 years from now.
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:52 AM   #15 (permalink)
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No mean to piss anyone off, but i recently read a Jim Jarmusch interview in which he says that he is a Tarantino fan, but he dosent like his non-thanking attitude to the films that inspired Quarantino´s.

Anyways,ALL of his films just ROCK THE CASBAH!
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Old 09-13-2002, 05:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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No mean to piss anyone off, but i recently read a Jim Jarmusch interview in which he says that he is a Tarantino fan, but he dosent like his non-thanking attitude to the films that inspired Quarantino´s.

Anyways,ALL of his films just ROCK THE CASBAH!
Yeah I just hate that too.
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I just hate how Quentin goes out of his way to let the public know all about the films he's been inspired by. I hate how he actually creates his OWN distribution company to release the film's lves and was partly inspired by (i.e Detroit 9000, Rolling Thunder, Swingblade Sisters, etc). How dare he! And how dare he hold a film festival every year in Austin, Texas for a week solely to express his passion for film and exhibit the ones that have influenced him the most from all genres (spaghetti westers, kung-fu, giallo horror, blaxploitation, Hong King cinema, crime dramas, etc, etc, etc...). The nerve that he has to wear his influences on his sleve! The nerve he has to provide fellow filmlovers with the opportunity to see these rare films ourselves!
Also, how dare he actually allow the Reservoir Dogs DVD to contain an incredibly in depth web of literary and filmic influences on this film? And elsewhere on that DVD, I can't believe he'd give an entire interview throroughly explain all his dedication/ influences of the time. Now that's just selfish.
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You can see where I'm going with this. I really gotta disagree Mr. Jarmusch on this one. Quentin has never hidden his influencess from us. Sometimes he outright fluents it by actually casting the same actors (Pam Grier, Robert Forster, Christopher Walken, Sonny Chiba in Kill Bill, etc).
I never understood that beef that some have with him. Yes he's influenced by Scrosese, Ringo Lam, etc etc, but I think he makes it all quite obvious. I've never heard him deny it.... sorry for the rant.
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I think Jarmusch is just a little bitter that ole Q ripped him off a bit, but never gave him a shout out. For example, watch Stranger Than Paradise and Mystery Train and you'll see how Jarmusch's pop culture dialouge could have influenced Quentin. One scene in Mystery Train with Buscemi and another guy talking about "Lost In Space" seems like Tarantino, so Jarmusch deserves more cred then he is given.
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Last night I bought a copy of the RD 10th Anniversary DVD (Mr. Brown if anyone was wondering; there are tons of them left in the Stamford, CT Tower Records if anyone is in the area).

I watched the movie last night after it has litterally been like 4 or 5 years since I last saw it. The movie was just as kick-assed as I remember. I don't think this film has aged at all. I can't say the same for Pulp Fiction only because I haven't seen that film in several years. I just might have to pick up the newer version of that one.
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