No DTS on 3 Disc ET Set (1982 version of movie)

[CarmenC]

www.TheDigitalBits.com
is reporting today that the 3 disc collectors edition ed. of ET
does NOT have the DTS track on the 1982 version of the movie!
The 2 disc version has DTS on BOTH versions, but the 3 disc set does not.
FYI...
Peace.
Carmen

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

[aintnosin]

Originally posted by CarmenC
[b]www.TheDigitalBits.com
is reporting today that the 3 disc collectors edition ed. of ET
does NOT have the DTS track on the 1982 version of the movie!
The 2 disc version has DTS on BOTH versions, but the 3 disc set does not.
FYI...

Another reason I'm glad I changed my order to the 2-disk set.

[godmoney]

Yeah, even though I wasn't planning on getting the 3-disc set anyway, this only solidifies my descision.

[hdrees]

OMG im annoyed
just got ET 3 disc box sset today (very nice box) and put the 1982 version on to watch first, get this, no DTS!!!!. It has English/French/Spanish Dolby 5.1 but no DTS, DTS is on the 2002 version, and my mate has the 2 disc version with DTS on both versions.
What a surprise Universal mess up yet another big release.

[JakeLipson]

Fans excited about E.T.'s DVD touchdown tomorrow may have another little unexpected surprise in store for them when they finally open up their big boxes. We've received a number of reports from those who've already received their copies of the Ultimate Gift Set of differing specs and features. The copy of the Gift Set we received and reviewed included all the same features on disc one and disc two as included in the more streamlined 2-disc set. However, some report that their box sets don't include DTS tracks on the 1982 version of the film and slightly different features. Unfortunately, repeated calls to Universal have gone unanswered regarding any possible mispressings or mixed-up contents for these various sets. At this point, the best advice is to hold on to your receipt and return your product for a refund or exchange if the specs don't match the packaging. Watch for space for more info as it becomes available...

-- DVDFile Disc News section

[Avid]

It also doesn't include the original sound. :rar: :rar: :rar:

[Monster]

glade i am only gettign the 2disc set.... wouldnt waste my money on the 3disc set...

[dvd-fanman]

This is kinda OT....

The inclusion/lack of a DTS track though really does not effect us if we don't have a DTS enabled DVD player though, right?

I'm at a loss when it comes to all the different sound versions. I thought at one time someone told me that if I don't have a DTS encoder or enabled player and hardware, or something like that, then it didn't matter for me. I think they also said that if I got a DTS only DVD (are there any?) that if I didn't have this special hardware I wouldn't hear anything at all.

Anyone care to give a short lesson on DTS tracks?

[black__omega]

basically, if you don't have a DTS decoder a DTS track is useless to you. But you should also think about the future. You might get a DTS setup one day and then the DTS track comes in a real handy. That's what happened to me, I've been collecting DVDs for about three years now and I finally got a surround sound system this summer and boy do those old DTS tracks sound great now.

As for DTS only discs, I think all DTS discs are supposed to have a PCM or Dolby 2.0 track as well for compatiblity reasons but if you don't have a DTS decoder I'd stick with normal discs.

[Oberon2001]

Well, I don't know if this is the right forum for this topic, if not, I apoligize, I was curious to ask, I found out today that on the 2-Disc set, we have DTS and Dolby for both versions. For the 3-Disc Gift Set, only the 2002 version has DTS, but does that mean, on the 3 disc gift set, we have Dolby and DTS also available for the 2002 version?

Please let me know, I am so confused on this. I would appreciate it, and also, if this topic does belong in the Glitch Exhaust, then please inform me where this should usually go.

Thanks
Oberon 2001



(Edit: This post was moved from Glitch Exhaust and merged with this thread since the subject matter is closely related - tomdkat)

[Nexus 6]

Strange. I'm really trying not to complain too much about this anymore. I'm glad Universal relented and included the OV on the 2-disc. The content of both sets looks good. It looks like a good DVD, but the way it's being handled really leaves a lot to be desired.

This latest thing is not a big deal to me right now, as I don't have a DTS setup, but as black omega said, I may get one eventually. And this is just really weird; most of the people who are going to get the 3-disc set are going to want the DTS track for the OV. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

But I'm tired of complaining. Universal probably doesn't care about all this, as they are under the impression that these discs are going to sell pretty well regardless of what's on them. Unfortunately, they're right. This is one of my favorite movies, so of course, I'm going to buy it. And again, the discs themselves look great.

I may e-mail or call Universal and express my disappointment with how they've handled this whole thing. Granted, with all that's going on in the world, this is pretty miniscule, but I am one of their customers, and they need to know what I think. I'll probably tell them that they got my money on E.T., but that I may not be as inclined to buy future releases if their customer relations and marketing departments don't get their act together.

At least they sent out a message regarding the DTS affair.

[rawer]

Has anyone received the "error" 2nd-disc w/DTS in their 3-disc box set?

If so, is there any clue on the package before you open it up?

[Damian]

Good thing I don't have a DTS system.

[Eddie2u]

What I don't get is dts is not listed as a option for the second disc of the 2 disc set.
It is not listed on the 3 disc set too
But surprise dts is there on the second disc of the 2 disc set.
You would think they would of added it to the 3 disc set also.

Here is something weird.
It says on the film cell that came with the 3 disc set.

THE E.T SENITYPE IS EXCLUSIVELY PRODUCED FOR UNIVERSAL STUDIOS HOME VIDEO'S E.T. THE EXTRA-TERRESTIAL 2-DISC LIMITED COLLECTOR'S EDITION.

Some one screwed up somewhere because it came with the 3 disc set.

I guess they wanted people to buy the 2 disc set for DTS and the gift set for the extra Items.

Double dipping on the same day.
I bought both because I wanted DTS, and all the extra's of the Gift set.

[BookCase3]

This is one of the problems with big corporations. In addition to studio heads paying attention to NOTHING but the bottom line, they also have X number of departments working on X number of features, and apparently no one proofing the other's work. Is it any wonder the end result is a mish-mash of quality? The artwork listing special features doesn't match the contents, there is a spine with no name on it (?!), the 3-disc gift pack costs much more and is arguably worse than the 2-disc version (absence of DTS on the former) -- and on top of it all, NO ONE knows what the hell they're getting when they throw the thing in the player. Is it me, or is this release one of the worst in the history of DVD with regard to marketing and consumer awareness?

But I [allegedly] have E.T. on DVD and I should be happy, right?

[neps]

Is DTS even on the second disc of the 2 disc set? I just picked it up from Best Buy and it doesn't mention it on the 2nd disc, only "Dolby Surround"

Is this an unlabeled goodie or did I get a bumm disk?

anyone who has played the disc, please let me know. Wont be able to play the disc for a few days.

[Hollow Man]

Originally posted by neps
Is DTS even on the second disc of the 2 disc set? I just picked it up from Best Buy and it doesn't mention it on the 2nd disc, only "Dolby Surround".

It's supposed to be there, although I haven't checked myself yet because I'm at work. The main packaging itself won't help because it was no doubt printed before Spielberg decided the original movie would be on the 2-disc set. So, you'll also notice that there's no mention of that fact on the packaging either.

So the reason there's no indication of DTS on disc 2 is because originally that disc was only going to be extra features, which generally aren't encoded in DTS.

-HM

[Dehrian]

I'm watching the two-disc right now. The original version on the second disc has the DTS track even though it is not indicated on the packaging.

[Chris Knight]

My question is, does anybody have the "error" 2nd-disc w/DTS in their 3-disc box set?

I know somebody else asked this, but no one has responded so far.

I have both versions sitting next to me right now: The 2-disc purchased today from Best Buy (for $14.95 with the K-Mart AD) and the 3-disc ordered from Deep Discount DVD back in September. I just received it today.

ONE of these sets is going back so I don't want to open either one yet until I get more opinions.

I guess I'll just hang out an lurk for a while until I do.

[disclover]

Originally posted by BookCase3
Is it me, or is this release one of the worst in the history of DVD with regard to marketing and consumer awareness?

But I [allegedly] have E.T. on DVD and I should be happy, right?

IMHO, it is THE worst release ever, in this regard.

[CineFreak7]

I can't believe that Universal screwed up so bad on this release. I'm kind of wondering why DVDFile got the DTS on both discs... And I thought that the first two discs of BOTH versions were identical. If so, why is there no DTS track on the 3-disc.

This makes...no sense.

And for the record, I'm pretty pissed off about it.

[The Mobius]

Originally posted by BookCase3
But I [allegedly] have E.T. on DVD and I should be happy, right?

LMAO!

I just got home with ET and you're so right - it's the first time I've ever felt the need to make sure that the movie is actually on one of the discs I bought!

[PaulM9999]

I own both the 2 disc and 3 disc sets:

3 Disc:

'02 Feature has DTS and DD
Original Movie is only DD

2 Disc:
Both movies are DTS and DD

The 3 box on the 3 disc set is accurate, but the 2 disc box makes no mention of DTS.

Hope this helps,
Paul

[Oscar Antonio M]

Paul, have you actually selected the DTS track?.
Universal does not have change audio tracks on the fly option, you have to go to the menu and choose it.

[Kenshiro 26]

Originally posted by Chris Knight
My question is, does anybody have the "error" 2nd-disc w/DTS in their 3-disc box set?

I know somebody else asked this, but no one has responded so far.

I have both versions sitting next to me right now: The 2-disc purchased today from Best Buy (for $14.95 with the K-Mart AD) and the 3-disc ordered from Deep Discount DVD back in September. I just received it today.

ONE of these sets is going back so I don't want to open either one yet until I get more opinions.

I guess I'll just hang out an lurk for a while until I do.

Originally posted by PaulM9999
I've popped in each of the DVD's from the 3-disc set and I have discouraging news.

Neither of the movies are DTS. The box says the 2002 version is DD 5.1 and DTS; and the 1982 version is just DD 5.1

Even the DVD for the '02 version has the DTS logo- but the movie is DD 5.1 w/no DTS when I pop it in to my player.

Aside from this the box set will make a nice addition to my collection. It comes with a CD of the soundtrack and a hardbound copy of the screenplay as well. I'm a big fan of the movie, and I'll probably pick up the 2-disc set so I can get the DTS version.

All this waiting, and Universal really botched this up...

I've just tested both the 2002 special edition and 1982 theatrical cut that were included in the Ultimate Gift Set and only the 2002 SE has dts surround. Which matches the technical specs on the back cover insert of the gift set.

The 1982 theatrical cut has Dolby Digital 5.1 surround in English, Spanish, and French.

For those who have both editions, are there any differences in content between the discs featuring the 1982 theatrical cut in the 2-disc SE and Ultimate Gift Set?

Aside from the omission of dts surround in the Ultimate Gift Set.

[Midnight Mike]

Hi there, new guy here. Been lurking for many moons but just registered now, because I wanted to weigh in on this.

The main difference (besides DTS) is that on the 3-disc set...the orginal version Disc has a bonus feature called "Looking Back".

Now I'm confused about this because the DVDFILE review says that this is a 37 min retrospective on Spielberg with clips from his other films. But, on my disc it's a 37 min edit of the 90 min E.T. LaserDisc Documentary from 1997 which I also have. It has no clips or info on his other films, it's E.T. all the way.

Is there yet another version?

I want to say that if you really love E.T. (like me) The gift set is the way to go. Other than no DTS on the original version, it delivers. And the Dolby 5.1 sounds great.

Mike

[Chris Knight]

Originally posted by Midnight Mike
Other than no DTS on the original version, it delivers. And the Dolby 5.1 sounds great.

Mike

I was just wondering this... HOW MUCH better is the DTS track? I currently don't have DTS... in fact I only have glorious 2-channel stereo. But within the year, I am definitely getting a home theater system with DTS.

My main reason for being so concerned about E.T. not having DTS is the fact that it is supposedly going out of print by the end of the year.

Next spring, I don't want to hear the 2002 E.T. in DTS and kick myself in the ass for returning the set with the 1982 in DTS.

Or... am I just getting myself worked up over nothing and the Dolby 5.1 is just fine?

[Nexus 6]

originally posted by Midnight Mike:

Now I'm confused about this because the DVDFILE review says that this is a 37 min retrospective on Spielberg with clips from his other films. But, on my disc it's a 37 min edit of the 90 min E.T. LaserDisc Documentary from 1997 which I also have. It has no clips or info on his other films, it's E.T. all the way.

Mine's the same way. The "Look Back" uses the existing footage, and the "Evolution and Creation of E.T." on the third disc is made up of what looks like new interviews. I haven't found anything on there with clips from other Spielberg films. Not sure what Peter is talking about.

At any rate, as I said in my earlier post, I'm tired of complaining. I'm probably going to write one more e-mail to Universal to tell them I'm disappointed with the way they've handled all this, but then I'm going to let it rest.

I am very satisfied with the content of the box set. The only thing that bugged me was that the sound of E.T. exhaling as he dies has been mixed down in the original version as well as the 2002 version; to me that lessens the impact a tad. Other than that, though, the content of the discs are great. I just wish the release had been handled better.

[BubbleGumUK]

Universal's biggest release...is also Universal's biggest mistake.

This whole thing is a mess, and someone just isn't doing their job properly. No DTS on the '82 cut in the 3-disc set? What's up with that?

Now with this news that one of the xtras in the 3-disc is just the laserdisc interview re-cut, I'm thinking yet again what version to go for.

But then I forgot...they didn't put the title on the spine of the 2-disc.

What a pile of :barf:

[herald miffkin]

I have not yet popped my 2 disc set into the player, but the box says the 2002 version has DTS and 5.1 and the second disc ('82 ver) only has Dolby 2.0 ???

i guess i need to actually look at the discs, but this seems like a pretty badly botched release at this point?

anyone have any issues with their 2 disc sets?

[Hollow Man]

The back packaging was created before they decided to release the original cut of the movie on disk 2. Since disk 2 was only supposed to contain supplements, that's why it only says Dolby Surround.

But be assured that the 2-disc set has DTS and DD 5.1 on disc 2 for the movie.

-HM

[PaulM9999]

Hi all,
I had indicated in an earlier message that I was unable to find DTS on the '02 version of the film from the 3-disc set. Turns out I had selected the audio improperly. I've corrected my original post.

Rest assured, you'll find DTS on the 2002 film from the 3 disc set.

I picked up the 2 disc set today as well, and can confirm there is DTS on both versions of the film on the 2 disc set.

Paul

[WhipSilk]

This may seem laughable, but has anyone contacted Universal to see if maybe they'll exchange the second disk of the Gift Set for the second disk of the 2-disker so those of us who must have DTS on the original version can have it?

I'm willing to spring for the big Gift Box, but only to watch the original version -- I have no interest in the PC mess. But I won't get it without DTS on the original, and after everything I've heard (and having seen that cheesy 2-disk packaging) about the security tape issue, I simply will not buy the smaller package. I'm really in a bind.

Universal could certainly go a long way towards re-establishing better customer relations by making such an offer. If they don't, I'll probably just wait for the inevitable reissue.

[BookCase3]

Or how about Universal offering those of us who have the two-disc edition some sort of slip-cover that would list the correct specs and have an actual spine with the movie's title on it?! That would also improve customer relations with this botched release...

[GuskerDu]

I agree this is the 'worst packaging ever' for a DVD. But besides the packaging (mistakes and all) and the DTS debacle, has anyone had any problems with the actual movie?

I bought the two disc set and my Sony DVP-S330 locked up at the very end of disc two around the 1:52:00 mark. I haven't tried disc one because I don't want to see the new cut. Anyone else had a problem like this???

GuskerDu

[Hollow Man]

Originally posted by WhipSilk
This may seem laughable, but has anyone contacted Universal to see if maybe they'll exchange the second disk of the Gift Set for the second disk of the 2-disker so those of us who must have DTS on the original version can have it?

They seemed to kill the DTS track on disc 2 of the gift set so there would be room for additional extra features. According to Dvdfile's review, on disc 2 of the gift set you get "Spielberg: A Look Back", which is not on the 2-disc set.

The 2nd disc of the 2-disc set contains a featurette that is not on the 3-disc set: "The Making of E.T". That's because the 3-disc set included "The Evolution and Creation of E.T." on disc 3, which is an expanded version of the featurette.

So you can't simply exchange disc 2: there are multiple ways they are different besides the lack of DTS on the movie.

-HM

[BubbleGumUK]

Originally posted by PaulM9999
Hi all,
I had indicated in an earlier message that I was unable to find DTS on the '02 version of the film from the 3-disc set. Turns out I had selected the audio improperly. I've corrected my original post.

Rest assured, you'll find DTS on the 2002 film from the 3 disc set.

Paul

So is that DTS on the 3-disc huge box set after all?

And you're sure that this was the correct disc for this set and not the second disc from the 2-disc set like some others that had it by mistake?

Before I go out and get the set, you are now saying that the 3-disc set (the one that says no DTS on the '82 cut) has DTS, right? Sorry to ask and ask, but this thing is a nightmare and I'll go ofor the big box if it has all the extras and the DTS on both cuts of the film.

Anyone else with the correct discs in the correct sets found DTS on the '82 version in the 3-disc set?

[Oscar Antonio M]

This all looks like a case for C.S.I. : DVD FILE FORUM

[Hollow Man]

All PaulM9999 is saying is that there is DTS on the 2002 version of the film on the gift set. He didn't say it was on the 1982 release.

Which is no doubt why he went out and bought the 2-disc set too.

-HM