No 2003 release of Twin Peaks season 2! - DVDfile.com forum for DVD, Blu-Ray, and HD-DVD

Unicorn · 03-20-2003, 02:11 AM

Read it and weep...

a.bunker · 03-20-2003, 02:13 AM

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Honestly though it doesn't really surprise me.

edited to add a couple carriage returns -- was messing up the table size. Thanks for understanding. -- Tish

Oscar Antonio M · 03-20-2003, 02:17 AM

I was really looking forward to this.

03-20-2003, 04:12 AM

CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP!

:rar: DAMN! POOP!

ebuzz79 · 03-20-2003, 05:12 AM

This is so sad. Especially considering how good things were starting to look recently with David Lynch dvd releases. (Eraserhead, Wild At Heart coming soon)
What makes it even more upsetting is the idea that a different company releasing the 2nd series of a tv series (when they didn't release the 1st) seems kind of unlikely.

theta · 03-20-2003, 05:58 AM

Read the language, guys. "As far as 2003 is concerned, that is correct."
Well, DUH. Artisan is going to release them, because the demand is there. The Season Two laserdiscs are going for $80 and up on eBay, so it's a question of figuring out how to sell them. They blew it on the Season One release; $60 for seven episodes turned out to be too much.
My bet; we get it in two parts, priced at $50 apiece, in 2004. Especially if "Wild at Heart" sells well.

chrisp450 · 03-20-2003, 06:30 AM

yeah....got an email about this ealier....
Sorry I forgot to post it back then....

Sucks...

Unicorn · 03-20-2003, 03:44 PM

Theta, I'm certain this isn't about strategy.

They would be selling it, RIGHT NOW, if they could. It must be outside of their control.

They either lack the resources (like someone's availabity to do a supplement, or a key piece of the show master), or else there is a rights issue that came up (license, music rights, someone wants a bigger piece of the pie, etc.).

In fact, what Gord (he runs TVShowsOnDVD) said at the bottom of the news item sounds more plausible. I've heard Paramount owns the pilot now, why wouldn't they now own the rest of the series? Maybe the issue is with them.

Oscar Antonio M · 04-26-2003, 08:01 AM

Just a theory but ive heard that Lynch is definetly preparing another Twin Peaks movie but nothing is set yet. So maybe they are delaying it (in case there's a movie) to tie-in with the new movie?

FurryHumanBeing · 04-26-2003, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oscar Antonio M
Just a theory but ive heard that Lynch is definetly preparing another Twin Peaks movie but nothing is set yet. So maybe they are delaying it (in case there's a movie) to tie-in with the new movie?

Say wah!?

That would make me happy, which, is odd, for me that is.

Hollow Man · 10-17-2003, 05:38 PM

So any word on this for next year? I figured since we're approaching the end of this year, maybe there was some news.

I've only seen the first season, so I'm really dying to see the rest.

-HM

Marq · 10-17-2003, 05:45 PM

I doubt any announcement is coming soon.
Nobody even seems to know who has the rights.... Artisan? Paramount? Universal?
There are petitions out there, but no moves have been made by any studios, nor do the petitions specify exactly who needs to release it...

Unicorn · 10-17-2003, 07:24 PM

Legal issues.

Hollow Man · 10-17-2003, 07:29 PM

Besides wondering about S2, I had put off buying the region 0 pilot because I know the sound is sped up a bit (darn PAL), but I may have to cave soon. We may never get a region 1 release of it at this rate.

-HM

PALMERLIME · 10-17-2003, 11:34 PM

I can't say I'm too surprised, either. Since the first set was so DRASTICALLY reduced in price, one must assume they had a glut to get rid of. We can only hope Paramount (or whoever holds the rights now...) knows what a nice profit they can make if they meet the demand that WE know is out there.

Morticia · 10-17-2003, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollow Man

Besides wondering about S2, I had put off buying the region 0 pilot because I know the sound is sped up a bit (darn PAL), but I may have to cave soon. We may never get a region 1 release of it at this rate.

-HM

Yeah, get that. It's not nearly as sweet transfer-wise as the Season 1 set, but it's all we got and are likely to have. Besides, the PAL speedup is (to me) barely noticeable.

"She's dead! Wrapped in plastic!"

PALMERLIME · 10-18-2003, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Morticia)

Yeah, get that. It's not nearly as sweet transfer-wise as the Season 1 set, but it's all we got and are likely to have. Besides, the PAL speedup is (to me) barely noticeable.

I agree. If you are a Twin Peaks fan, for sheer image quality, the disc looks pretty nice actually. However, if you a Twin Peaks NUTJOB (like myself) the sped-up sound will drive you bugfuck if you pretty much have every pause and every cadence burned in the ol' gray matter.

To be honest, at first I thought it was just because I possibly forgot that Kyle's voice might have changed between filming the pilot and the 1st episode (puberty will do that to you, I suppose...), but then when I noticed it with other actors, I knew something was up.

Again, however, the region 0 release might be all we see and aside from some faster speeches and music cues, it's a must have if you dig the Peaks.

Hollow Man · 10-18-2003, 06:50 AM

The only time I've seen the pilot is via the VHS tape, and that was quite a while ago. So maybe I'll scour ebay or half.com and buy the thing. May tide me over a tad until S2.

-HM

MooglePorn · 10-18-2003, 05:31 PM

I agree about getting the Pilot R0... good disc, worth the $20...

I hope to see a Season Tow release of this ASAP, but I can wait... builds tension. I'm a pleasure delayer you see

10-20-2003, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unicorn

Legal issues.

Can you elaborate or is it hush-hush?

Unicorn · 10-20-2003, 04:16 PM

Let's just say that multiple parties are claiming ownership or related rights issues where Twin Peaks is concerned. From what I've been hinted at, it's a mess.

Let's just say that I've put this one from my mind. If something gets moving on it, great. We may be up to HD-DVD by then, though. I'd be the most surprised person on the block if things got resolved quickly.

MooglePorn · 11-09-2003, 02:09 PM

An update from TVshowsonDVD... sounds grim to me... EVERYONE SHOULD GO BUY THIS NOW TO TURN IT AROUND GOD DAMMIT!!!!

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In a month we'll be reaching the two-year anniversary since Twin Peaks - Season 1 hit retail stores, to vast critical acclaim. Everyone agreed that this was a high-quality DVD release; with a beautiful job done of remastering (resulting in some of the sharpest video among TV-on-DVD sets ever seen), plus many terrific supplements (read our own review here). Fans who purchased the first season - whether old fans or new to the show - just could not wait to get the second season, and resolve the multiple cliffhangers which ended the first.

The problem, according to our exclusive discussions with Artisan, is that there just weren't enough of you. TVShowsOnDVD owner Gord Lacey recently spoke to the studio, where it was finally revealed to him that sales figures for the first season - while decent - just were not profitable enough to cover the high production costs of the Season 1 set.

There have been other TV-DVD releases, which didn't sell enough to justify continuing (Columbia's The Larry Sanders Show and Fox's The Mary Tyler Moore Show are the best-known examples). As with those, Artisan couldn't make the numbers make sense for moving forward with a Season 2 release. Especially given the general consensus that the second season went "downhill" after the Laura Palmer murder was solved. They tried and tried, as is evidenced by all the rumors we've heard for two years. It just hasn't worked out, though.

We've heard from a significant number of consumers that they don't want to purchase first seasons of any show until the studios demonstrate that they are willing to release further seasons, so they (the buyers) don't get caught without the full run of a TV Show. Gord and I have long maintained that this is a bad strategy for consumers, since studios definitely won't continue to release product that nobody's buying. Twin Peaks seems to have fallen victim to this curse.

There are still perhaps a couple of hopes, though. Here are some facts: Lion's Gate has recently bought Artisan for $160 million. And Paramount owns overseas rights to Twin Peaks - Season 2, and had previously indicated that it would be brought out in different foreign markets (Germany for instance)...but release dates haven't ever been named, and those releases seem to have similarly stalled. Put these facts together, and maybe we have a future where Lion's Gate can perhaps figure out a budget strategy that works to reduce production costs by using resources they bring to the table, and then maybe Lion's Gate/Artisan can work out a deal with Paramount to jointly fund the project, so that each studio can profit in their different markets. I should quickly point out, though, that this is a LOT of "maybes" and wishful thinking, and that to our knowledge the named studios have discussed no such plans. They are possibilities, nothing more. But the hope IS there.

We'll have to wait and see if it's still possible to save Agent Cooper's life, and also find out who killed Laura Palmer...stay tuned, and if anything develops on the Twin Peaks front, we'll get word to you. In the meantime, drink a damn fine cup of coffee, have a donut, and go get off your holster and buy the Season 1 set. Already have one? Good...the holiday season is coming, so it's a great opportunity to give one to a friend! Renewed sales can only help.

cart66 · 11-10-2003, 01:41 AM

dugpa.com also has this story and a link to Lions Gate. They encourage you to send an email asking for them to release season 2. I just sent one myself.

For those interested.

Hollow Man · 11-10-2003, 02:06 AM

Man I hope they release it. As I probably already stated in this thread, I've never seen season 2. I thought the picture and sound quality of the S1 set was remarkable, and was really looking forward to another set.

-HM

Unicorn · 11-16-2003, 01:24 PM

TVShowsOnDVD has an update on this whole thing. It mentions the R4 release, and also points out that the early sales numbers for Season 1 might not have told the entire sales story.

retroboy · 11-16-2003, 08:37 PM

There have been so many red herrings regarding the mythical S2 set that's it's hard to believe anything. Thanks for the link, Unicorn! I believe that S2 will eventually be released here in North America. After all, the A/V quality and presentation of the S1 set set the standard for many TV-on-DVD sets. We Twin Peaks fans have to keep our fingers crossed--c'mon Artisan, it's only one more season and there's a demand for a DVD set, so work up some marketing and creative chutzpah!

Oscar Antonio M · 12-17-2003, 05:03 AM

You may want to take a look at this:
http://www.lynchnet.com/

Marq · 12-17-2003, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar Antonio M

You may want to take a look at this:
http://www.lynchnet.com/

Sadly, no new infornmation provided. Still no plans for a Region 1 release. Alhough it does sum up all the complications and process nicely.

03-20-2003, 02:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
Unicorn Actor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: I am the only Unicorn there is	No 2003 release of Twin Peaks season 2! Read it and weep...

03-20-2003, 02:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
a.bunker Actor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Northeast US	Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Honestly though it doesn't really surprise me. edited to add a couple carriage returns -- was messing up the table size. Thanks for understanding. -- Tish __________________ "I'm so hungry I could eat a sandwich from a gas station." -Clark W. Griswold Last edited by Morticia : 03-20-2003 at 06:44 AM.

03-20-2003, 02:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Oscar Antonio M Loves his "family" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Heaven & Hell coalition	I was really looking forward to this. __________________ DVD's

03-20-2003, 05:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
ebuzz79 Actor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Canada	This is so sad. Especially considering how good things were starting to look recently with David Lynch dvd releases. (Eraserhead, Wild At Heart coming soon) What makes it even more upsetting is the idea that a different company releasing the 2nd series of a tv series (when they didn't release the 1st) seems kind of unlikely. __________________ "Yes folks, this isn't any cheap x rated movie or any fifth rate porno play. This is the show you want. The sleaziest show on earth!" My DVD List at DVD Aficionado

03-20-2003, 05:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
theta Cheap Cerebral Paralysis Join Date: May 2002 Location: In aintnosin's basement	Read the language, guys. "As far as 2003 is concerned, that is correct." Well, DUH. Artisan is going to release them, because the demand is there. The Season Two laserdiscs are going for $80 and up on eBay, so it's a question of figuring out how to sell them. They blew it on the Season One release; $60 for seven episodes turned out to be too much. My bet; we get it in two parts, priced at $50 apiece, in 2004. Especially if "Wild at Heart" sells well. __________________ "I need bling, I tell you, BLING!!!" --Palmerlime Theta's discs, 300 mark crossed, 400 here we come!

03-20-2003, 04:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
frulad	CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! :rar: DAMN! POOP!

03-20-2003, 06:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
chrisp450 Actor Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Minnetonka, MN	yeah....got an email about this ealier.... Sorry I forgot to post it back then.... Sucks... __________________ My DVD List at DVD Aficionado

03-20-2003, 03:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Unicorn Actor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: I am the only Unicorn there is	Theta, I'm certain this isn't about strategy. They would be selling it, RIGHT NOW, if they could. It must be outside of their control. They either lack the resources (like someone's availabity to do a supplement, or a key piece of the show master), or else there is a rights issue that came up (license, music rights, someone wants a bigger piece of the pie, etc.). In fact, what Gord (he runs TVShowsOnDVD) said at the bottom of the news item sounds more plausible. I've heard Paramount owns the pilot now, why wouldn't they now own the rest of the series? Maybe the issue is with them.

04-26-2003, 08:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
Oscar Antonio M Loves his "family" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Heaven & Hell coalition	Just a theory but ive heard that Lynch is definetly preparing another Twin Peaks movie but nothing is set yet. So maybe they are delaying it (in case there's a movie) to tie-in with the new movie? __________________ DVD's

10-17-2003, 05:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hollow Man Not Kevin Bacon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Connecticut	So any word on this for next year? I figured since we're approaching the end of this year, maybe there was some news. I've only seen the first season, so I'm really dying to see the rest. -HM __________________ "I see a Hollow Man, gun in hand, it points my way." - The Cult Band Chat

10-17-2003, 05:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
Marq Actor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ottawa	I doubt any announcement is coming soon. Nobody even seems to know who has the rights.... Artisan? Paramount? Universal? There are petitions out there, but no moves have been made by any studios, nor do the petitions specify exactly who needs to release it...

10-17-2003, 07:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
Unicorn Actor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: I am the only Unicorn there is	Legal issues.

10-17-2003, 07:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
Hollow Man Not Kevin Bacon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Connecticut	Besides wondering about S2, I had put off buying the region 0 pilot because I know the sound is sped up a bit (darn PAL), but I may have to cave soon. We may never get a region 1 release of it at this rate. -HM __________________ "I see a Hollow Man, gun in hand, it points my way." - The Cult Band Chat

10-17-2003, 11:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
PALMERLIME Is never satisfied? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Home of Justin Guarini, Carson Kressley and Christine Taylor	I can't say I'm too surprised, either. Since the first set was so DRASTICALLY reduced in price, one must assume they had a glut to get rid of. We can only hope Paramount (or whoever holds the rights now...) knows what a nice profit they can make if they meet the demand that WE know is out there. __________________ "Why? Because it feels so god@*mn good."

10-18-2003, 06:50 AM	#18 (permalink)
Hollow Man Not Kevin Bacon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Connecticut	The only time I've seen the pilot is via the VHS tape, and that was quite a while ago. So maybe I'll scour ebay or half.com and buy the thing. May tide me over a tad until S2. -HM __________________ "I see a Hollow Man, gun in hand, it points my way." - The Cult Band Chat

10-18-2003, 05:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
MooglePorn Actor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA	I agree about getting the Pilot R0... good disc, worth the $20... I hope to see a Season Tow release of this ASAP, but I can wait... builds tension. I'm a pleasure delayer you see

10-20-2003, 04:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
Unicorn Actor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: I am the only Unicorn there is	Let's just say that multiple parties are claiming ownership or related rights issues where Twin Peaks is concerned. From what I've been hinted at, it's a mess. Let's just say that I've put this one from my mind. If something gets moving on it, great. We may be up to HD-DVD by then, though. I'd be the most surprised person on the block if things got resolved quickly.

11-10-2003, 01:41 AM	#23 (permalink)
cart66 Supporting Actor Join Date: Nov 2003	dugpa.com also has this story and a link to Lions Gate. They encourage you to send an email asking for them to release season 2. I just sent one myself. For those interested.

11-10-2003, 02:06 AM	#24 (permalink)
Hollow Man Not Kevin Bacon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Connecticut	Man I hope they release it. As I probably already stated in this thread, I've never seen season 2. I thought the picture and sound quality of the S1 set was remarkable, and was really looking forward to another set. -HM __________________ "I see a Hollow Man, gun in hand, it points my way." - The Cult Band Chat

11-16-2003, 01:24 PM	#25 (permalink)
Unicorn Actor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: I am the only Unicorn there is	TVShowsOnDVD has an update on this whole thing. It mentions the R4 release, and also points out that the early sales numbers for Season 1 might not have told the entire sales story. Last edited by Unicorn : 11-16-2003 at 01:30 PM.

11-16-2003, 08:37 PM	#26 (permalink)
retroboy Actor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Rock 'n' Roll High School	There have been so many red herrings regarding the mythical S2 set that's it's hard to believe anything. Thanks for the link, Unicorn! I believe that S2 will eventually be released here in North America. After all, the A/V quality and presentation of the S1 set set the standard for many TV-on-DVD sets. We Twin Peaks fans have to keep our fingers crossed--c'mon Artisan, it's only one more season and there's a demand for a DVD set, so work up some marketing and creative chutzpah! __________________ "I think Canadians see the world more as anthropologists. I think we're not burdened by the weight of being a superpower and that gives us the chance to listen and understand different issues around the world."

12-17-2003, 05:03 AM	#27 (permalink)
Oscar Antonio M Loves his "family" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Heaven & Hell coalition	You may want to take a look at this: http://www.lynchnet.com/ __________________ DVD's

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