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Old 04-06-2003, 01:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Another Anamorphic Question

Hi there.
If I play an non-anamorphic DVD on a widescreen TV, is the only way I can fit the image on the TV, to Zoom in using the DVD player. Or is there some other way.

And is Natural Born Killers anamorphic or non-anamorphic.

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Old 04-06-2003, 01:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Rubik,

As far as Natural Born Killers is concerned, there are two Region 1 editions.

The standard, which is non-anamorphic. Spine # VM 7292D, issued by Trimark.

Then the anamorphic version is spine # 18535, is labeled "Oliver Stone Collection" and is released by Warner.

Non-anamorphic DVD's on a 16:9 screen will normally crop the 16:9 screen down to 4:3 and THEN display the movie in a letterboxed format with-in the 4:3 reduced box. So you end up with black bars both on the top and sides.

Pretty strong argument for anamorphic enhancment if you ask me.

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Old 04-06-2003, 01:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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And is Natural Born Killers anamorphic or non-anamorphic?
The Trimark director's cut is Non-anamorphic and the Warner butchered version is Anamorphic.
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Old 04-06-2003, 03:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The Trimark director's cut is Non-anamorphic and the Warner butchered version is Anamorphic.
Why do you say butchered?

And also is the old Single Disc release of Boogie Nights Non-anamorphic?

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I also remember reading somewhere about zooming in and losing some quality, but almost filling up the screen.
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Old 04-06-2003, 03:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Why do you say butchered?

And also is the old Single Disc release of Boogie Nights Non-anamorphic?
Because the R rated version pales in comparison the the humor of the director's cut and therefore it plays as rather confused and defanged.

I seem to remember the old Boogie Nights being anamorphic (I used to have it, but now I have the 2 disc), and the transfer was actually not bad. It was probably not even worth them doing a second version if they couldn't get the rights to the John Holmes documentary.
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Because the R rated version pales in comparison the the humor of the director's cut and therefore it plays as rather confused and defanged.
What do you mean humour. From what I remember the only differences was seeing Warden Jones head and something about a Nine Inch Nails clip missing.

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I seem to remember the old Boogie Nights being anamorphic (I used to have it, but now I have the 2 disc), and the transfer was actually not bad. It was probably not even worth them doing a second version if they couldn't get the rights to the John Holmes documentary.
What extra features are there on this 2 Disc edition?
I wouldn't mind getting but I only like it because of that mad cover.
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Also there are over 120 shots not in the R rated version, which is about 2 min worth of stuff.
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Also there are over 120 shots not in the R rated version, which is about 2 min worth of stuff.
Oh, well last time I saw the "Butchered Version" was when I was 8 or 9, so I can't remember what's missing.

Can anyone tell me about this supposed zooming or stretching for Non-anamorphic DVDs.
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Oh, well last time I saw the "Butchered Version" was when I was 8 or 9, so I can't remember what's missing.

Can anyone tell me about this supposed zooming or stretching for Non-anamorphic DVDs.
It's actually 150 cuts and three minutes of extreme violence which adds to he black humor of the movie.

The only new extras on Boogie Nights were the color bars outtakes, one more deleted scene, and some outtakes of John Reilly being funny.
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Old 04-07-2003, 04:55 AM   #10 (permalink)
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As far as another part of the orginal question goes...watching a non-anamorphic disc doesn't have to be too troublesome on a widescreen tv if you have a DVD player that has X-Y scaling options. The quality is reduced slighty when you zoom in depending on how well the disc is encoded but a good progressive scan player can compensate for a lot of that. X-Y scaling is also invaluable in reducing image overscanning on anamorphic material. The multiregion Malata DVD player has this XY option.
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Old 04-07-2003, 09:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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As far as another part of the orginal question goes...watching a non-anamorphic disc doesn't have to be too troublesome on a widescreen tv if you have a DVD player that has X-Y scaling options. The quality is reduced slighty when you zoom in depending on how well the disc is encoded but a good progressive scan player can compensate for a lot of that. X-Y scaling is also invaluable in reducing image overscanning on anamorphic material. The multiregion Malata DVD player has this XY option.
I'm relieved. I was worried I'd had to replace my Non-anamorphic DVDs when I get a widescreen TV.
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Old 04-07-2003, 09:29 AM   #12 (permalink)
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you can also do like i did and get a Panasonic RP91 player that has anamorphic scaling. from what i understand, it's the only player that has the feature.
now don't ask me how well it does (cause i don't have the full set-up yet), but i hear it's a very nice alternative to the zoom feature (and, from what i read, the resolution isn't lost as much).
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