Top 21 sings something is wrong with Jaws DVD

[Richard]

1. Not including full 2 hour making of Jaws
documentary;
2. Not including original Oscar-winning mono
soundtrack;
3. Universal shipping over 1 million copies
of Jaws on DVD making them think they did
a good job;
4. Jaws doesn't bother with THX certification
or THX doesn't bother with Jaws;
5. Of all DVD's on the market today Universal
recommends 1941 and Always amongst others;
6. Making of Jaws on DTS version is shorter
then on Dolby Digital version;
7. No website or DVD reviewer picked on
number 6;
8. Double sided or double disc is another
mile Jaws can't swim;
9. Apart from a few shorts Robert Shaw is
really absent on the disc or shall I say
sea sick? (may he rest in peace)
10. Not all deleted scenes and outtakes are
under the bonus menu features;
11. The main menu Play option and chapter
list is useless if you want listen to
DTS soundtrack;
12. Dolby Surround soundtrack on DTS disc;
Universal, despite people buying DTS
version, don't really think you want DTS;
13. Dolby Digital remix;
14. DTS remix;
15. Universal big wish to compete with
imdb.com; see bonus materials: cast and
filmmakers;
16. Get out of the water! Trivia game;
18. Shark world;
19. Production notes;
20. Screen saver;
21. DVD newsletter;

[roger thornhill]

What tune are we supposed to sing these to?

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[Taxi]

I think he was doing his Inigo Montolla impression.

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[P7A77]

A few points, tho'...

6) Doesn't DTS take up more space? Does the audio storage on a disc affect video storage? If so, that's why. If not, I dunno.

12) I believe they're required by spec to include a Dolby audio track.

Most of the rest were good points, tho'.

[kwi]

Originally posted by Richard:

4. Jaws doesn't bother with THX certification
or THX doesn't bother with Jaws;

Who cares about THX?


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Klaus

[Damian]

I will agree with one point. The Jaws Trivia game was TOTALLY lame! What-ever space that thing used up would have been better to use towards a longer documentary if there truly is more of it available.


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-Damian

[This message has been edited by Damian (edited 07-24-2000).]

[Dehrian]

1. Not including full 2 hour making of Jaws documentary;

Whine whine whine. Give 'em a yard, they take a mile. We're spoiled aren't we, when we get to complain about things like this and it seems justified?

2. Not including original Oscar-winning mono soundtrack;

Vaild. Should have been there.

3. Universal shipping over 1 million copies of Jaws on DVD making them think they did a good job;

Last time I checked, the stores were getting low on those million copies shipped.

4. Jaws doesn't bother with THX certification or THX doesn't bother with Jaws;

Who gives a rat's ass? THX is a certification service. The A/V equivalent of getting a smog check on your car. I could care less if it's THX-certified.

5. Of all DVD's on the market today Universal recommends 1941 and Always amongst others;

What did you expect? Liar Liar? Perhaps A film from another studio?

6. Making of Jaws on DTS version is shorter then on Dolby Digital version;

You've watched both? You must have more spare time on your hands than I do.

7. No website or DVD reviewer picked on number 6;

And this is the DVD's problem... why, exactly?

8. Double sided or double disc is another mile Jaws can't swim;

Not everyone wants a double-disc set. I do not. I don't like them. I'd rather have a single disc. It seems presumptuous to assume that because you want something a certain way, so does everyone else.

9. Apart from a few shorts Robert Shaw is really absent on the disc or shall I say sea sick? (may he rest in peace)

I'm still trying to figure out where you're going with this one. He's absent from the supplements? He died before they were put together. What do you want, a seance?

10. Not all deleted scenes and outtakes are under the bonus menu features;

Where are they, then?

11. The main menu Play option and chapter list is useless if you want listen to
DTS soundtrack;

You go into audio options and choose DTS.

12. Dolby Surround soundtrack on DTS disc; Universal, despite people buying DTS
version, don't really think you want DTS;

By law, every disc must have a DD audio signal. It's the legal standard. Every DTS disc on the market has a DD signal of some sort, be it 5.1, 2.0, or mono.

13. Dolby Digital remix;

I kind of like it, personally.

14. DTS remix;

Like it even better than the DD.

15. Universal big wish to compete with
imdb.com; see bonus materials: cast and
filmmakers;

Now you're just getting picky.

16. Get out of the water! Trivia game;

Yeah, it sucks.

20. Screen saver;

Sucks, too.

[Richard]

1. Yes, in a way you could say that we have been spoiled with some great discs. When studios pull back a little on a particular major title some of us start to whine. I do. Secondly, I prefer these documentaries over audio commentaries.

4. I feel THX certification in general, not always, can make a difference. Ask the folks at Anchor Bay for example on their Halloween remastering project.

5. You're right. Still I think it's sad.

6. Play the Making of Jaws on the DTS disc. Skip to the section featuring the newsreporter on the beach. If you do, I'll get you a free gift at Amazon.com. Also, the Dobly Digital packaging has a 'over 75 minutes of extras' sticker on it. The DTS version does not.

7. That was rather unfair of me. I put it in on purpose. That's the reason I read DVD reviews. I would like to know those things before I start to buy DVD's.

9. Yes, in the supplements. I know he died before that Making Of was shot. Not a seance, but something else would have been nice and right I feel(mainly due to his excellent performance).

10. The others are in the Making Of. What's the point then to that menu option? If I would like to see all deleted scenes and/or outtakes I would have to check that menu option and the wade through the entire Making of. And if you have the DTS version you miss some of them(see 6 and 7).

11. But what if I would like to use the chapter list or autoplay the disc with DTS?

15. The point I was trying to make is that studios always put those on their DVD's just as interactive menus and the like while many of us concider them not to be special features.

[Dehrian]

I feel THX certification in general, not always, can make a difference.

I don’t. They only work to the specifications of the owners of the material. If what they were asking for was sub-par to begin with, than the consumer isn’t going to get very much.

Play the Making of Jaws on the DTS disc. Skip to the section featuring the newsreporter on the beach.

I guess you’re implying that this sequence is on the DD and not the DTS. On what chapter is it to be found on the DD so I can check to see if it’s on the DTS?

Also, the Dobly Digital packaging has a 'over 75 minutes of extras' sticker on it. The DTS version does not.

I wouldn’t get too worked up over this. The stickers are frequently wrong to begin with.

10. The others are in the Making Of. What's the point then to that menu option? If I would like to see all deleted scenes and/or outtakes I would have to check that menu option and the wade through the entire Making of. And if you have the DTS version you miss some of them(see 6 and 7).

I’ll have to go back and check my disc again, because I have no idea what you’re talking about here. All of the deleted scenes that I remember from the LD are on the DTS disc under the bonus features menu.

15. The point I was trying to make is that studios always put those on their DVD's just as interactive menus and the like while many of us concider them not to be special features.

Could be worse. Some $tudio$ li$t artwork as a ‘$pecial feature’.

[Prophet]

um....Richard? Shut up? Yes yes, I don't mind if you do.

I wouldn't mind your nit-picking if
a) You made sense
b) The problems you claim to have found actually exsisted
&
c) you weren't an idiot

[Dehrian]

Wow, and I thought that maybe I was being a bit rude.

[Dehrian]

10. Not all deleted scenes and outtakes are under the bonus menu features

Okay, Richard, I think I know what you’re talking about on this one. On the documentary they show an alternate version of the shark attack witnessed by Brody’s son. In the original version, of which they show pieces, the man grabs onto Michael and the boy is pulled along as the shark takes the man and begins to go under water. In the film version, however, the shark simply swims past Michael and scares him real bad.

Now, this is not the same as the deleted scenes that are found in the bonus features section. Those are either extended versions of scenes found in the film (the chaos at the pier, the trip back on the ferry) or are scenes that were edited out entirely (Quint terrorizing the boy in the shop). None of the scenes were alternate versions, or changed something that added to the film.

The sequence where Michael is dragged by the shark is an actual alteration of something that happened in the film. Making the change wasn’t a simple editing matter. They had to go back and shoot two more shots to make it work. It doesn’t just flesh out the scene more, or make it longer. It actually changes it. The rest of the deleted scenes in the bonus features menu were simply additions, not changes.

[Kevin M]

Well I don't know what he was really trying to say but I do know that the LD has about 5 or 6 more outtakes & deleated scenes than the DVD.
And after a side by side comparison I have to say they really chopped up what was a fine docu (having an hour cut out I knew it was cut down pretty bad but they actually changed the meaning of most of the points made by the people involved, namely Peter B. & Richard D.).

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-----Kevin M.-----

"Just because the f*cker has a library card doesn't make him Yoda."

[walk]

If you want to listen to the soundtrack in MONO, can't you just set your reciever to MONO mode? Just a thought.