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Old 01-08-2004, 10:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bad dialouges in good movies

Title says it all.

I'll start with

Casablanca (It's amazing how a movie with such a fine script could screw up this way but it's passable)-
Ilsa-"Were those cannons or was it the pounding of my heart?"
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Old 01-08-2004, 11:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"Whoa"

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Old 01-08-2004, 11:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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How is "Whoa" considered bad dialogue?

It's a very simple and common reaction to seeing an incredible/unbelievable thing.

Continue with your listings, please. I'm interested what else is considered bad.

Oh! Just thought of my all time favorite bad line:
"No one puts Baby in a corner." - Dirty Dancing, of course
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The last line from Marlena Dietrich in Touch of Evil:
"He was some kind of man."
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Old 01-08-2004, 12:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Lines from any of Cameron's movies...
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I can't believe I'm the first one to post:

"You know what happens to a frog when it gets hit by lightning?...The same thing that happens to everything else."

Jaw-droppingly awful.
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Old 01-08-2004, 03:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Almost all of Gene Hackman's dialouge in "Superman" was horrible. Lex: "Do you know why the number two hundred is so vitally descriptive of both you and me? It's your weight and my I.Q." But the movie was pretty good. Now Superman 2 and the rest, both dialouge and movies horrible! I hate you Richard Lester!! BTW, IMO, Titanic is the WORST piece of crap ever put onto film! And Cameron should no longer be allowed to write scripts. T2? I rest my case.
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"I heard she got a.....GREAT ASS!" - Pacino in Heat.

I have to admit i liked that line. I liked hank azaria's reaction even more.
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From Alien 3 (let's not get into any discussion on if it qualifies as a "good" movie though )

Ripley: "What makes you think they're gonna care about a bunch of double Y chromos who found God at the ass-end of space? They think you're... crud."

I'm paraphrasing the quote there, since I don't remember it all perfectly, but the 'crud' part is what irks me. There was no problem with swearing in the rest of the movie, but here Ripley uses the word 'crud'??? Stupid.
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Re: Bad dialouges in good movies

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"You don't have to lick my ass, just fuck me."

-Laurie to Nicolas in Femme Fatale.
I must disagree...I find that sparkling dialogue to be among the best I've ever heard! At least, if it's Rebecca Romijn-Stamos sayin' it.
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Old 02-07-2004, 05:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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From Fight Club:
"The first person that comes out from this fucking door gets a...gets a...LEAD SALAD!, You understand?"

Even though I'm guessing it was intentional.
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Old 02-07-2004, 07:08 AM   #16 (permalink)
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For me it would be one of Andie MacDowell's lines in Four Weddings and a Funeral

"Is it raining, I hadn't noticed"......... god awful....
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Old 02-07-2004, 04:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The thread title calls for bad dialogue in a good movie.

Heh.

Anyway, Stand By Me had some bad dialogue, though that bad dialogue makes sense: 12-year-olds talk funny. Still, a great many of the insults were just terrible. A genuine bad moment came near the end, however, when Kiefer Sutherland confronts the boys near the end. Quite a few lines right out of a bad mobster movie. "We're not gonna forget this" and "This isn't over" type stuff. Watched this again the other evening and they really stood out.

Here's one that sometimes makes me cringe: "You shall be the fellowship of the Ring." Ugh. Too bad, that one, since so much of the other dialogue in the film was great.

Also: Saving Private Ryan: "Earn this." Not terrible, but in the whole gaudy and weepy context it was delivered in, a groaner.

A good portion of The Matrix Reloaded's dialogue was just awful. Dropping in bits of philosophy into your film is one thing; making it all so bloody obvious and delivered so badly is another.

But then again, we're talking about bad dialogue in a good film.
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Old 02-09-2004, 09:05 PM   #18 (permalink)
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OK, this movie doesn't win any awards anyway for dialogue, but I have to add:

"Jedi business. Go back to your drinks." -- Star Wars Episode II

I just about fell off my couch when I heard that one.
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From Fight Club:
"The first person that comes out from this fucking door gets a...gets a...LEAD SALAD!, You understand?"

Even though I'm guessing it was intentional.

I loved that line! So funny.
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For me it would be one of Andie MacDowell's lines in Four Weddings and a Funeral

"Is it raining, I hadn't noticed"......... god awful....
I don't mind this line so much......it would have been much better had a decent actress uttered it.
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OK, this movie doesn't win any awards anyway for dialogue, but I have to add:

"Jedi business. Go back to your drinks." -- Star Wars Episode II

I just about fell off my couch when I heard that one.

We could do this whole thread just with that movie.
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Here's one that sometimes makes me cringe: "You shall be the fellowship of the Ring." Ugh. Too bad, that one, since so much of the other dialogue in the film was great.

during the trilogy tuesday screening at the senator theater, that line brought a loud cheer.
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Re: Re: Bad dialouges in good movies

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We could do this whole thread just with that movie.

"I hate sand. It's rough and coarse and gets in your clothes. Not like you. You're soft and smooth."

Hard to believe Lucas had the balls to reject Frank Darabont's screenplay for the next Indiana Jones movie after penning a line like that.
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Old 02-10-2004, 06:12 AM   #25 (permalink)
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"I hate sand. It's rough and coarse and gets in your clothes. Not like you. You're soft and smooth."

Hard to believe Lucas had the balls to reject Frank Darabont's screenplay for the next Indiana Jones movie after penning a line like that.
No kidding, MJ. I'll take Jackson's obvious but lofty pronouncements any day in the LOTR trilogy over the mush we tolerate in Lucas' scripts just because they have STAR WARS in the title. Frankly, I'll be a quite a bit relieved when the barrage of bad writing finally ends in May of next year.

My personal favorite IS intentional (but hilarious!). Can you guess?

"What are you saying?"
"Leave her! Come back to Montana with me!"
"I could no sooner run away from her than I could run away from myself!"
"I'm not ASKING you to run, I'm asking you to face REALITY!"
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"Leave her! Come back to Montana with me!"
"I could no sooner run away from her than I could run away from myself!"
"I'm not ASKING you to run, I'm asking you to face REALITY!"
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Old 02-10-2004, 06:14 AM   #26 (permalink)
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The line is "not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth"

Listen. Lucas intentionally writes wrong words in the kit so anyone critic (Ebert) who quoted wrong did not see the whole film and pieced it together from the kit. I saw the film 14 times, I know the lines.

And for the other deaf one who thought Gene Hackman's lines in Superman were bad, did you see the movie?

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The line is "not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth"
And that’s better?
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Give me a break.

Just a little FYI: There is a difference between “did not see the whole movie and fudged their way through a review using press materials” and “watched the movie just once and remembered a slight variation on the actual line.”

Hell, to this day there are people who have seen The Empire Strikes Back dozens and dozens of times who offer the quote: “Luke, I am your father.” Which is, of course, incorrect.

Someone sees the movie. They groan at an awful line about sand and chicks and bad teenage love. They review the film. The line is misquoted. How you can believe that means they “did not see the whole film and pieced it together from the kit” I do not know.

Maybe it hasn’t occurred to you that some people might not want to watch a film 14 times just so they can get every word of every line perfectly. Congrats to you for being “dedicated,” but it’s frankly ridiculous, unfair, and just plain wrong to suggest that someone did not do their job and misled people in the course of doing their job because they did not correctly quote a piece of bad dialogue from a film you like.

Super Secret Conspiracy Press Kits or not, much of the dialogue in Attack of the Clones was just groan inducingly bad.
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My personal favorite IS intentional (but hilarious!). Can you guess?

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"Leave her! Come back to Montana with me!"
"I could no sooner run away from her than I could run away from myself!"
"I'm not ASKING you to run, I'm asking you to face REALITY!"
"What are you saying?"
"Leave her! Come back to Montana with me!"
"I could no sooner run away from her than I could run away from myself!"
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"What are you saying..................................................."
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Listen very carefully when dear old George Lazenby delivers this line.

You can hear his voice waver as he tries not to laugh. It is likely that John Landis kept the cameras turning a little longer than he said he would, and that the above line was an improv when Lazenby thought they were going to use the stuff before on a edit point.

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