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Kill Bill Japanese Version VS. US Print
Ok people,
There seems to be alot of speculation as to what the exact differences between the two prints are, and in the interests of Kill Bill Fans everywhere, I am now posting the differences between the two prints so you will all know what they are and where to look for them! Just so you are all aware, comparisons have been made only against the US theatrical print of the film, and the Japanese Uncut print. 1. The scene with Uma and Vivica Fox in the kitchen has been altered. The Japanese print cuts away from the overhead view to a close up of Vivica Fox pouring two cups of coffee in close up. 2. The anime sequence in longer in the Japanese Cut showing and second shot of the yakuza's head being rammed through the wall by O-Ren's dad, the Yakuza boss being slit from stomach to throat, and the subsequent shot of the dead boss with his entrails exposed. O-Ren's dialogue in this scene is also extended as she asks if the Yakuza boss recognises her. 3. The first female yakuza killed in the house of blue leaves, the one who asks "charlie brown for a kiss" There is an extended close up of her blood filled mouth before Uma rips the sword out! 4. The main fight is all in color now! There are a ton of extra kills now shown, as well as a fantastic somersault move before the eye pull out scene. The young yakuza that Uma spares at the end of the fight shows up halfway through and is put to interesting use. Heaps more severed limbs etc. Too many to list here... 5. The interrogation scene with Sofie Fatale is extended now so that you get to see her other arm cut off after Uma says "Give me your other arm!" That is all. Any other scenes are figments of the imagination or just totally made up by people who wish there was more... These are what I was able to spot after watching both prints back to back 15 times! I hope this helps you all out. Oh yeah, the subtitles on the Japanese version are perfect english, but you have to flick them on manually for the Japanese bits or have them on the whole time.... But to see the uncut version of this film as it should be, this is a small price to pay... Cheers 666_Paul |
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once we get the "Network Television Debut" of
Kill Bill 1, then we'll have some more fun comparissons between each version. |
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Ahhh, digital undies.
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The following site provides quite a few screen shot comparisons, the text is in German:
http://www.schnittberichte.com/index.php?ID=1588 |
also, theatrically (at least in the non-japanese cut), there is a flashback to fatale being at the wedding (rehersal). this is gone from the dvd as it doesn't fit into the scene in vol.2 (which was written on set).
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Does anyone else not care? As far as I know, all these changes were QT approved...
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then why did you take part in this thread? i mean, i wasn't trashing QT, or his changes, or any other nickpicking details. i just added a fact, put here out of interest?
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EDIT: It's not even your thread! AHHHH!!! |
hahah (about the "not even your thread" thing)
sorry dude, i'm overly tired, and polishing off a uni assingment some 5 hours before it's due (its 4.30am here). and i've been doing uni work for the past day and a half. i've seen enough "you f'kn nitpickers" posts over the past few weeks (at other places, not here) and misunderstood yours. personally I like the US cut just fine, but i think the house of blue leaves looks way better uncut. nothing about the gore, just purely because i thought the black and white (post-prod) looked pretty shithouse. thus, i prefer the japanese cut. :) |
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i cant think of a quote (or where one is atm), but im sure tarantino's happy with the different cuts, despite his pulp fiction claim of "i made the movie i wanted to make the first time". i guess people change. :P
that being said, i know his opinion of the MPAA is that he's a fan of working with them and having a good relationship, as opposed to people like wes craven who has a horrible relationship the the MPAA. |
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Do you mean the "Sophie at the wedding" flashback is missing from the Japanese DVD, because it's still on the U.S. disc. :-/ I found it odd that Sophie wasn't present during this scene in Vol. 2, although she could have come in while the DiVAS were beating the crap out of The Bride... |
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"Making of anime sequence - This 22-minute documentary is in Japanese with no subtitles, but it is definitely worth watching to get a glimpse of some of the behind the scenes artwork, as well as to see an extremely animated (bad joke, I know) Quentin Tarantino announcing to the Japanese public that, “because they can handle it”, they get to see “full-strength Kill Bill”." This might just be in reference to the fact they get an extended anime sequence, but from its context I interpreted it to mean the film in general. |
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The Sofie Fatale scene appears in BOTH versions. It occurs as Uma pulls up beside Sofie's car at the red light and she does her Brian De Palma spin out thing....
It flashes to Sofie talking on the phone in Japanese to someone as the bride hits the floor all bloodied up... Once again, having both R1 and Japanese copies to compare, it is in BOTH! Hope this helps you all out... Also, QT has said that he has kept the rights to Kill Bill Japanese cut so that he can release it as an NC-17 edition after Vol 2 is released on DVD. This was done so that he can basically tell Miramax and the MPAA to piss off. The ONLY reason the end fight was in b&w was to appease the MPAA and was not artistic by any means of the word. Censorship is censorship no matter how you try to dress it up! Cheers 666_paul |
I still don't buy the censorship argument.
Tarantino wanted the Black and White. It was in the script. Fact. Period. People can argue wether he wrote the script knowing ahead of time the MPAA would interfere but I still think of the B&W as the original and the colour version as a neat supplement. Personally I liked it better in B&W. Thought it fit very well and yes I have seen both versions. Just a personal opinion. |
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finally, i don't buy this "it was in the script" argument with this film. other films, yes. but not this film. Yuki's revenge was in the script, yet Yuki isn't in a frame of film. She was dropped before filming commenced and (apparently) tarantino wrote a new section while shooting, |
Yes, the script did call for Black and White, but this was for the Chapel scenes only and NEVER for the final ending fight. Portions of this fight were shown in the US theatrical trailer in full color, only to later re-appear in Black and White after the MPAA objected to this and that!
QT has said in his own words "Only Japan gets to see 'FULL STRENGTH' Kill Bill, but i have obtained the rights to this print and will release it a some point down the track" The rest of us plebs have to wait for an eventual NC-17 release, after all the other versions of course. This is because our fragile little western minds might be shattered if the MPAA actually showed a bit of red blood! I am sick of having a bunch of old men and women telling me what I can and can't watch! Censorship IS Censorship and the MPAA should take a good hard look at themselves. SHAME! Are our minds really that fragile? are we not able to decide whether or not to see something for ourselves? Are we not adults going to an R rated movie anyway? Does the R not come with a certain expectation of violence and sex, drugs etc? Besides, the violence shown in Kill Bill was comical to say the least and not meant to be taken seriously by any means! Cheers 666_Paul |
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