Which is better? Chasing Amy Criterion or Dogma: SE? - DVDfile.com forum for DVD, Blu-Ray, and HD-DVD

surfingelectrode · 09-21-2004, 01:41 AM

I'm not sure of what to get.

Notoriousaurus · 09-21-2004, 01:45 AM

Both.

Also get Clerks X; Mallrats; Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back; Clerks: Uncensored; and An Evening With Kevin Smith to complete the package.

GaLvAtRoN187 · 09-21-2004, 02:50 AM

yea you really need ALL the View Askew related dvds, and add Jersey Girl to that list!

MooglePorn · 09-21-2004, 02:52 AM

Chasing Amy has the better commentary, Dogma has the better of everything else SE wise...

Chasing Amy is the better movie, by far

93curr · 09-21-2004, 03:14 AM

'Chasing Amy' is a better drama, 'Dogma' is a better comedy.

also, bonus points to 'Chasing Amy' 'cause of 'DVD sucks' on the commentary track.

Dilmo · 09-21-2004, 04:34 AM

I prefer Dogma SE.

aedavela · 09-21-2004, 05:20 AM

I love them both, but the Dogma SE is the far better DVD.

Flash Ahhh · 09-21-2004, 07:31 AM

OK, short and sweet:

Even though both are Kevin Smith movies and both have Jay and Silent Bob in them, both of these movies really suit to different tastes.

Both contain comedy, but Chasing Amy is more of a drama and focuses on gay and lesbian and bisexual themes. Dogma is more of a comedy with religious parody and themes. Sometimes that description alone is anough to help a person to decide which movie to pick.

Overall I think Chasing Amy is a better movie. Though Dogma has more special features.

I wouldn't buy Dogma blind, I'd give that a rent first. Chasing Amy is an acceptable blind buy in my opinion.

Also Chasing Amy is cheaper than Dogma right now, even though it's a Criterion. Chasing Amy is usually $19.99 or less (Many places $14.99) and the Dogma SE (the reissue) is usually $29.99 and around $24.99 on sale.

Hope that helps.

-Flash

projecteightysix · 09-21-2004, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Ahhh

Chasing Amy is usually $19.99 or less (Many places $14.99) and the Dogma SE (the reissue) is usually $29.99 and around $24.99 on sale.

Hope that helps.

-Flash

Last time i was at best buy (about 2 weeks ago) they had Dogma SE for 14.99. I almost picked it up but i didnt have enough money.. blah

raptors661 · 09-22-2004, 06:51 PM

any one know where to buy Mallrats? Minot ND doesnt have a best buy, so i know i cant get it from there

tomdkat · 09-22-2004, 06:53 PM

Dogma: SE

Peace...

clemato · 09-22-2004, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash Ahhh

Both contain comedy, but Chasing Amy is more of a drama and focuses on gay and lesbian and bisexual themes. Dogma is more of a comedy with religious parody and themes. Sometimes that description alone is anough to help a person to decide which movie to pick.

If you get the Clerks X DVD, there are Kevin's Journals from production and Sundance. He refers repeatedly to a lesbian couple he met and bonded with (not like that...). He became good friends with one of the ladies and I'm thinking that set of inspiration for Chasing Amy.

Which I still have not seen.....

I love the Dogma set. It's really good.

Volcane · 09-22-2004, 07:16 PM

I'd go with a lot of the above posts :

Chasing Amy is the better movie (my personal favourite of the "New Jersey Trilogy") but Dogma is the better DVD set (but also my least favourite of the series).

It depends what is more important to you, movie or features, if you end up liking the film of Dogma more than Amy then you will win all round!

MooglePorn · 09-22-2004, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by clemato

If you get the Clerks X DVD, there are Kevin's Journals from production and Sundance. He refers repeatedly to a lesbian couple he met and bonded with (not like that...). He became good friends with one of the ladies and I'm thinking that set of inspiration for Chasing Amy.

That might be why he threw the lesbian thing in there, but it's pretty well known that the movie was based on his own experiances with the star of the film, Joey Adams, and he's pointed out many times she is not a lesbian in any way.

Stryf3 · 09-23-2004, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MooglePorn

That might be why he threw the lesbian thing in there, but it's pretty well known that the movie was based on his own experiances with the star of the film, Joey Adams, and he's pointed out many times she is not a lesbian in any way.

dang MooglePorn, beta me to it...

Surf Monkey · 09-23-2004, 04:12 PM

I've never thought that Dogma was a very good film. For some reason I've never been able to get into it. Chasing Amy on the other hand is Smith's finest film (IMO of course.) Go with Chasing Amy.

theta · 09-23-2004, 07:29 PM

I like "Chasing Amy", but honestly, it's not a movie I often pop in my DVD player. "Dogma?" A LOT. I think it's Smith's best film in terms of what he has to say.

They're really apples and oranges. "Amy" is very much a film about personal interactions and relationships; "Dogma" is a film about religious philosophy.

Essentially, it depends on your tastes. You want a film about ideas or a film more about people?

surfingelectrode · 09-23-2004, 08:36 PM

I picked up the Dogma: SE for 15.00. Thanks for all of the help!

Indyphantom · 09-24-2004, 01:24 AM

Everything about Dogma is better. It's Smith's second best film. Clerks is his best.

dvdjedi · 09-24-2004, 02:35 AM

IMO, Dogma has a very weak performance by Linda Fiorentino which really hurts the film overall. It seems to me that she obviously doesn't think much of the film and is just half-assing her way thru it (reminds me of Natalie Portman's performance in the Star Wars prequels). I read that Smith had considered Janeane Garofalo for the part but went with Fiorentino instead. What could have been...

As far as Chasing Amy, I thought I read that he got the idea when he met Guinevere Turner and was smitten by her

only to find out that she was a lesbian.

MooglePorn · 09-24-2004, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdjedi

IMO, Dogma has a very weak performance by Linda Fiorentino which really hurts the film overall.

Completely agree... that and the fact it bounced too much from comedy to drama in too short of time. I'm all for a good mix, but this wasn't a good mix, IMO... one or the other felt out of place most of the time. Still, a good movie I'm happy to own, just much lower than Chasing Amy IMO...

Frank Gunn · 09-24-2004, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooglePorn

Chasing Amy has the better commentary, Dogma has the better of everything else SE wise...

Chasing Amy is the better movie, by far

Of course, Moogleporn can relate to 'Chasing Amy' better than 'Dogma'.

Version · 09-24-2004, 10:48 PM

These are the only two Kevin Smith films I own. Both quite interesting. I was never of huge fan of any of his others films.

09-21-2004, 01:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
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09-21-2004, 05:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
aedavela Color Me Surprised! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Buffalo, NY	I love them both, but the Dogma SE is the far better DVD. __________________ "Pussy? Well who taught you judo?" My DVD Collection My Top 20 Movies Guzzlefish Last DVD(s) Acquired: Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut; Ronin SE

09-21-2004, 07:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
Flash Ahhh Moderator Emeritus Well Worth the Double Dip! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: 8.4 Miles from the newest Hooters Restaurant	OK, short and sweet: Even though both are Kevin Smith movies and both have Jay and Silent Bob in them, both of these movies really suit to different tastes. Both contain comedy, but Chasing Amy is more of a drama and focuses on gay and lesbian and bisexual themes. Dogma is more of a comedy with religious parody and themes. Sometimes that description alone is anough to help a person to decide which movie to pick. Overall I think Chasing Amy is a better movie. Though Dogma has more special features. I wouldn't buy Dogma blind, I'd give that a rent first. Chasing Amy is an acceptable blind buy in my opinion. Also Chasing Amy is cheaper than Dogma right now, even though it's a Criterion. Chasing Amy is usually $19.99 or less (Many places $14.99) and the Dogma SE (the reissue) is usually $29.99 and around $24.99 on sale. Hope that helps. -Flash __________________ Flash - Moderator Emeritus - Savior of the Universe Criterion (krî´tir´èæn) Greek [kritËreon], *Noun.* (circa 1622) - Definitiveness. Set standard. Principle, rule or test upon which value or decision can be based. Characterization in which all others are judged.

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MooglePorn Actor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA	Chasing Amy has the better commentary, Dogma has the better of everything else SE wise... Chasing Amy is the better movie, by far

09-21-2004, 03:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
93curr Actor Join Date: Feb 2004	'Chasing Amy' is a better drama, 'Dogma' is a better comedy. also, bonus points to 'Chasing Amy' 'cause of 'DVD sucks' on the commentary track.

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Dilmo Suspended Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New Braunfels, Texas. Far From Crawford!	I prefer Dogma SE.

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tomdkat Official Forum Warmonger "Dial Tone" Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hayward, CA, USA	Dogma: SE Peace... __________________ My DVD Aficionado List "At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!"

09-22-2004, 07:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
Volcane Actor Join Date: Jan 2004	I'd go with a lot of the above posts : Chasing Amy is the better movie (my personal favourite of the "New Jersey Trilogy") but Dogma is the better DVD set (but also my least favourite of the series). It depends what is more important to you, movie or features, if you end up liking the film of Dogma more than Amy then you will win all round!

09-23-2004, 04:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
Surf Monkey Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The City of Roses	I've never thought that Dogma was a very good film. For some reason I've never been able to get into it. Chasing Amy on the other hand is Smith's finest film (IMO of course.) Go with Chasing Amy.

09-23-2004, 07:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
theta Cheap Cerebral Paralysis Join Date: May 2002 Location: In aintnosin's basement	I like "Chasing Amy", but honestly, it's not a movie I often pop in my DVD player. "Dogma?" A LOT. I think it's Smith's best film in terms of what he has to say. They're really apples and oranges. "Amy" is very much a film about personal interactions and relationships; "Dogma" is a film about religious philosophy. Essentially, it depends on your tastes. You want a film about ideas or a film more about people? __________________ "I need bling, I tell you, BLING!!!" --Palmerlime Theta's discs, 300 mark crossed, 400 here we come!

09-23-2004, 08:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
surfingelectrode Actor Join Date: Apr 2004	I picked up the Dogma: SE for 15.00. Thanks for all of the help! __________________ My DVD Collection

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Indyphantom Forum Lothario Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: the black lodge...	Everything about Dogma is better. It's Smith's second best film. Clerks is his best. __________________ My DVD List at DVD Aficionado

09-24-2004, 02:35 AM	#20 (permalink)
dvdjedi Actor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In The Grotto at The Mansion	IMO, Dogma has a very weak performance by Linda Fiorentino which really hurts the film overall. It seems to me that she obviously doesn't think much of the film and is just half-assing her way thru it (reminds me of Natalie Portman's performance in the Star Wars prequels). I read that Smith had considered Janeane Garofalo for the part but went with Fiorentino instead. What could have been... As far as Chasing Amy, I thought I read that he got the idea when he met Guinevere Turner and was smitten by her only to find out that she was a lesbian. __________________ WELL I SPEAK LOUD! AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK! AND I USE IT TOO! - Yosemite Sam

09-24-2004, 10:48 PM	#23 (permalink)
Version Actor Join Date: Jan 2003	These are the only two Kevin Smith films I own. Both quite interesting. I was never of huge fan of any of his others films.

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