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McHugh · 04-17-2005, 05:00 AM

Picked up Apollo 13 - Anniversary Edition and I am very impressed but something bothers me. The IMAX version (which is shorter in running time and has a ratio of 1.66 instead of 2.35) has DTS which sounds much better than the 5.1 on the theatrical version. Secondly, the picture quality for the IMAX version has been improved and it is very noticeably sharper in clarity and detail. I would say that the IMAX version is approaching HD quality. So why not have the improved picture quality on the theatrical version along with DTS and not include the IMAX version? I for one want to view the complete movie with the best picture and sound quality that is available. If I want to see the IMAX version, I'll go to an IMAX theater!

Dilmo · 04-17-2005, 05:34 AM

Haven't had the chance to watch mine yet. I know that special remastering had to be done to the IMAX version due to blowing it up onto an IMAX screen. So when it's reduced, the detail is even more evident. It's a shame they couldn't do the whole film, but at the time, the IMAX reels could only hold up to 2 hours of content. I could be leaving out some stuff.

Bananaslug79 · 04-18-2005, 03:19 PM

Well, if you want the whole picture on an IMAX movie you won't get it. IMAX film has an aspect ratio similar to a standard television screen (the reason you're seeing the IMAX Apollo in 1.66), and if a movie is reformatted to this aspect than you won't see the whole picture. I've seen them do both on an IMAX screen, first (Star Wars Episode II) where they reformatted the film to the smaller aspect but it fills the IMAX frame, or (Polar Express) where they keep the wider aspect but don't use the entire IMAX frame. For the latter, I could be wrong but I think in that case they didn't "reformat" the film but just projected it on an IMAX screen in 3D.

This article sort of explains some of the process, a little over my head but it may offer some information (at least how they reformat films for IMAX). And Dilmo is right about the clarity and run time, that's just how IMAX is.

MooglePorn · 04-18-2005, 07:53 PM

I could be wrong, but I think the original poster's point is that the IMAX movie looks so good, why doesn't every DVD, or the theatrical version, look that good.

Easy answer: A super restoration like that costs LOTS of money. Look at the DVD of North By Northwest. Why doesn't every 50s movie look like that? Because making old movies look like that costs a lot of money.

McHugh · 04-19-2005, 01:16 AM

MooglePorn, you are correct, the point I was trying to make is that since they have already upgraded the picture and sound for the IMAX version why not offer the improvements for the theatrical version which has not been edited to the shorter IMAX running time?

tomdkat · 04-19-2005, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by McHugh

MooglePorn, you are correct, the point I was trying to make is that since they have already upgraded the picture and sound for the IMAX version why not offer the improvements for the theatrical version which has not been edited to the shorter IMAX running time?

I'm sure the IMAX restoration work could have been used for this Apollo 13 release provided the right price was set. If the IMAX restoration work would have cost too much to apply to the non-IMAX DVD release. they would not pursue it. There's also the possibility that using the IMAX restoration work wasn't thought of when the Anniversary edition of Apollo 13 was being planned.

Peace..

04-17-2005, 05:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
McHugh Supporting Actor Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary Alberta Canada	Apollo 13 - Anniversary Edition Picked up Apollo 13 - Anniversary Edition and I am very impressed but something bothers me. The IMAX version (which is shorter in running time and has a ratio of 1.66 instead of 2.35) has DTS which sounds much better than the 5.1 on the theatrical version. Secondly, the picture quality for the IMAX version has been improved and it is very noticeably sharper in clarity and detail. I would say that the IMAX version is approaching HD quality. So why not have the improved picture quality on the theatrical version along with DTS and not include the IMAX version? I for one want to view the complete movie with the best picture and sound quality that is available. If I want to see the IMAX version, I'll go to an IMAX theater!

04-18-2005, 03:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bananaslug79 Actor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Land of Mary	Well, if you want the whole picture on an IMAX movie you won't get it. IMAX film has an aspect ratio similar to a standard television screen (the reason you're seeing the IMAX Apollo in 1.66), and if a movie is reformatted to this aspect than you won't see the whole picture. I've seen them do both on an IMAX screen, first (Star Wars Episode II) where they reformatted the film to the smaller aspect but it fills the IMAX frame, or (Polar Express) where they keep the wider aspect but don't use the entire IMAX frame. For the latter, I could be wrong but I think in that case they didn't "reformat" the film but just projected it on an IMAX screen in 3D. This article sort of explains some of the process, a little over my head but it may offer some information (at least how they reformat films for IMAX). And Dilmo is right about the clarity and run time, that's just how IMAX is. __________________ -Spoon!

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04-17-2005, 05:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dilmo Suspended Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New Braunfels, Texas. Far From Crawford!	Haven't had the chance to watch mine yet. I know that special remastering had to be done to the IMAX version due to blowing it up onto an IMAX screen. So when it's reduced, the detail is even more evident. It's a shame they couldn't do the whole film, but at the time, the IMAX reels could only hold up to 2 hours of content. I could be leaving out some stuff.

04-18-2005, 07:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
MooglePorn Actor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA	I could be wrong, but I think the original poster's point is that the IMAX movie looks so good, why doesn't every DVD, or the theatrical version, look that good. Easy answer: A super restoration like that costs LOTS of money. Look at the DVD of North By Northwest. Why doesn't every 50s movie look like that? Because making old movies look like that costs a lot of money.

04-19-2005, 01:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
McHugh Supporting Actor Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary Alberta Canada	MooglePorn, you are correct, the point I was trying to make is that since they have already upgraded the picture and sound for the IMAX version why not offer the improvements for the theatrical version which has not been edited to the shorter IMAX running time?