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Old 07-13-2001, 09:21 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Not having the full 2 hour plus documentary on JAWS hurts. I'm still hoping that Universal will release an Ultimate Edition. Please.

Some of the older MGM titles. RANCHO DELUXE, although not well known probably has the worst transfer I have ever seen.
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Old 07-13-2001, 10:04 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I've had the same experiences with DVD. When I first got my DVD player, I'd buy almost anything I liked just because it was on DVD. A year later and I've watched Bicentennial Man once, Girl, Interrupted maybe twice and a whole slew of others that have never even been taken out of the box. I have a pretty big VHS selection, 300+ and I shudder everytime I think about how on average, each tape cost $10 and then multiply it by 300. There's only a handful of movies I watch over and over and unfortunately, most of them don't have special editions (come on Universal, where's my Breakfast Club Special Edition????). ALright, I just needed to vent.

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Old 07-14-2001, 10:05 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I often get very excited about upcoming releases and am let down. When my favorite films are announced with very few extras it can get ugly (Traffic, Memento). Because then i have to buy different dvds with more extras before i can get those ones. and sometimes i just have to watch those release dates pass me by, which can get upsetting.
and i hate this ultimate edition crap. why not make them ultimate in the first place, universal so i dont have to sell my original copy for fiddlestix so i can buy the new, more expensive version. damnit.
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Originally posted by Jedi Justin:
Although I thought the quality of the Close Encounters DVD was absolutely atrocious (read my review dvdivas.net), I did enjoy the documentary.

This is the review I found at dvdivas.net...am I missing something here? If this is how you describe an "atrocious" disc, I can't image what accolades you shower on a disc you love!

Image and Sound

This transfer from film to DVD is perfect, without a single discernible flaw or distortion. The picture, however, while sharp and clear, has a "soft" look and lacks the absolute clarity of a newer film. But the colors are brilliant, especially in the lights of the alien spacecraft, both in the smaller, circular "blip" crafts that dart around the screen, as well as in the dazzling array attached to the Mother Ship. And the technical achievements effected here are quite apparent, especially when you compare the look of the final product to that in some of the deleted scenes, which seem rather "washed out" and very rough in spots. The sound (mastered in THX) is absolutely fantastic, with or without the benefit of a surround sound system. From the smaller sounds of the toys, like the clanging of the monkey's cymbals or the scratching of the wheels of the electric trains, to the bigger sounds of the trucks, helicopters and spaceships, as well as the rolling of the thunder, the crack of the lightening and the blowing of the wind, the sound is just incredible. It's mixed well, the background noises blend in naturally, with perfect balance and great stereo effects, which allows you to follow a person or an object from one side of the screen to the other audibly as well as visually. The music, which is such an integral part of this film (especially those familiar five notes), comes through full and rich and is exceptionally distinct, without ever compromising the dialogue. This is an example of sound that is as good as it gets.

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'The Making of Close Encounters of the Third Kind" is without question the most engaging, entertaining, informative and in-depth documentary I've ever seen on the making of a movie. The most interesting comments come (as you would expect) from Steven Spielberg, who begins by telling a story of when he was five-years-old, when his father woke him up in the middle of the night one time, to take him out to a field where a number of others had gathered to watch a meteor shower. It was a magic moment in his life, and one of his earliest influences. He also reveals that his first choice for the part of Roy was Steve McQueen, who not only read the script but met with Spielberg at a bar in Trancas, California, to discuss it. Finally, McQueen turned the part down, because, he told Spielberg, "I can't cry on camera." Not that he didn't want to cry on camera, but couldn't, physically. Spielberg offered to cut the crying scene, but McQueen said absolutely not, that he should leave the scene in because it was great and, McQueen confessed, nearly brought him to tears as he read it. His next choices were Dustin Hoffman, Al Pacino and Gene Hackman. Only after months of campaigning for the part, Dreyfuss remarked to Spielberg one day that he needed a child for the role, someone who could be "childlike." Spielberg looked at him and said, "You got the part." Spielberg also discusses the concepts behind his use of lights, color and music in the movie, and his belief that a shared passion of music is a universal means of communication. He tells a poignant story of how he elicited such great reactions from Cary Guffey (who played Dillon's son, Barry). Guffey was only three-years-old when he was cast in the role; Spielberg would set him up in a shot, then tell him he had something for him. He would then proceed to slowly unwrap a gift--standing just out of the frame-- as the cameras rolled, capturing Guffey's response to the surprise Spielberg had for him. In one scene, Guffey actually exclaims, "Toys!" and it remained in the final cut of the film. Of course, he appears to be looking up at the sky, where you assume he's seeing an alien spacecraft, arrayed in lights and darting about. Spielberg also discusses such issues as the look of the aliens, how they set up the shots involving the Mother Ship, as well as the concept of the ship itself, which he originally envisioned as black, so that when it descended it would give the impression of leaving a giant hole in the backdrop of the stars in the night sky. There are also interviews with Richard Dreyfuss, Bob Balaban (who played Laughlin), Teri Garr, Melinda Dillon, Cary Guffey, special effects wizard Doug Trumbull, director of photography Vilmos Zsigmond, production designer Joe Alves and John Williams, who discusses those famous and familiar "five notes." After watching the documentary, the featurette they include here, "Watch the Skies," made in 1977, seems almost redundant, but has a kind of sentimental appeal, like a piece of movie memorabilia. It's actually very brief, and begins with a quick glimpse at the locations for the film: Bombay, India, Devil's Tower, Wyoming and Mobile, Alabama. Over a montage of images from the film, the most interesting comment is about how Spielberg's films seem to affect our collective consciousness. Just as "Jaws," gave us a new respect for what lies beneath the surface of the sea, after "Close Encounters" we will probably never look at the skies in quite the same way again. And I think they were right. Of the eleven deleted scenes, only two seem in any way significant. The first involves Roy immediately after the initial sighting. As he sits in the police station waiting, apparently, to make a statement, you see him doodling on a piece of paper. Among the doodles is a rough sketch that resembles the "tower" of his upcoming obsession. This would have been the first indication of the image already forming in his mind. In another scene, that apparently takes place soon after the sighting, Roy is on the roof of his house, where he has built a make-shift observatory, complete with telescopes. His son comes up to get him for dinner, but Roy just continues to wistfully and introspectively stare up at the night sky. All of the deleted scenes have to be taken at face value, as there is no commentary included. Still, they are interesting and well worth watching.


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Old 07-15-2001, 06:42 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Old 07-15-2001, 03:43 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Terminator 2: Ultimate Edition... now, don't get me wrong, the DVD is wonderful - great audio and video, and it's stacked with extras. However, I hadn't seen the movie in about five years, and I was disappointed in it to say the least. I've only watched it once, and I don't plan on bothering with the extras - I just don't care to learn anything about the movie, since I disliked it so strongly.

Note--I'm not looking to start an argument over the merits of the film, it's just not one that I enjoyed. My intention is not to offend anyone who did enjoy the movie, as I'm sure a lot of you did. To each his own.
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Old 07-15-2001, 04:49 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Jedi Justin - I just read Filmmakers comment about your review of the Close Encounters DVD ... What's up with this?

Hey ... I couldn't find your review of The Game at your site but when you say: "I thought "The Game" was horribly artifacted with a grainy transfer" by this do you mean: "this transfer comes monumentally close to reference quality with no sign of edge enhancement, colors that are well saturated with perfect fleshtones, and a level of detail and shadow delineation that is simply beautiful?" -Just razzing you.

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Old 07-15-2001, 04:55 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Rhettmatic wrote re: Terminator 2: Ultimate Edition: I hadn't seen the movie in about five years, and I was disappointed in it to say the least.
I hadn't seen it in about five years too, and was floored by just how cool a film this really was. I watched it twice in two weeks ... which is something I never do!

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Old 07-18-2001, 04:52 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Ok i'm itching to buy 13 Days. Worthwhile or no? Looks like a killer disc. Will I regret? Haven't seen it yet? Opinions?
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Old 07-18-2001, 10:15 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Ok i'm itching to buy 13 Days. Worthwhile or no? Looks like a killer disc. Will I regret? Haven't seen it yet? Opinions?
I just picked up Thirteen Days based on the review here... I enjoyed the movie very much. Of course, I'm also a history/60s buff, so that may've had something to do with it. It can be a little dull at times, but also has really great moments (the scene with Adlai Stevenson at the UN comes to mind as a favorite).

As to the extras, I've only gotten part-way through them so far. I thought the Infinifilm concept was really fascinating. I watched the movie one time, then on my second viewing I watched it with Infinifilm on... I think I ended up watching all of the segments, which were informative and just short enough not to pull me totally out of the movie.

All in all, I'd definitely recommend Thirteen Days... now, it's on to the Die Hard Ultimate Collection (which, incidentally, replaces MY most disappointing DVD purchase from mid-99)...
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Old 07-21-2001, 04:28 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Do you know what online retailers are selling the new DTS jurassic park & DTS lost world transfers that you speak of...also how do you tell the differance. Does it say year 2001 date on it anywhere? please reply at rvanonselen@sympatico.ca
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Old 07-21-2001, 05:43 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Old 07-22-2001, 03:19 AM   #58 (permalink)
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I have over 350 DVD's and without a doubt, the most disapointing disc that i have is the Stargate SE that came out a while ago. For a major studio release (and a popular title to boot) i just cannot believe the quality of the video transfer. It is borderline VHS quality at best and makes watching the movie unbearable.

I must also mention True Lies which finishes a close second with its years old LD video transfer and non-existant extras. Sadly, both of these movies have kick ass 5.1 soundtracks which just doubles your pain when watching the picture quality and wondering what could have been.
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Old 07-22-2001, 03:28 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Hoosiers- great movie, lousy disc- sound is OK, but picture has grain all over the place and some dirt.
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Old 07-22-2001, 04:14 AM   #60 (permalink)
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During the "good old days" of deep discounts and coupons I bought a lot of DVD's that I was marginally interested in because I was only out $10 or less. Now that the discounts and coupons have disappeared I have become more selective about DVD purchases. I probably wouldn't have purchased Bicentennial Man or Angela's Ashes without deep discounts.
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Old 07-23-2001, 03:10 AM   #61 (permalink)
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"Meet The Feebles" This is a Peter Jackson movie which I bought from a Canadian retailer. I have never seen this dvd for sale in the US. The keep case states that it is "all regions", "digitally remastered", and has "enhanced audio". The disc is featureless and containes only the movie, I expected this though. What botherd me when I got the disc home was that it was mastered from video tape, this is easily discernable due to the video tape errors present as horizantal white streaks in the video.

Still, I'm not sorry I bought the movie, I did not previously own it, and it's just as good as any VHS version I'd have bought but will probably last longer. I will not, however, be buying "Bad Taste" which is available in the same way (Canada, but not the US) and I suspect produced the same way. I already have "Bad Taste" on vhs, and this dvd would probably be no better. If anyone out there has this dvd and could confirm or invalidate this assumption, I'd be happy to hear about it.

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Old 07-23-2001, 05:43 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Old 07-25-2001, 07:19 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Manhunter - Special Edition

The director's cut was unwatchable. Looked like a bad VHS dub. With either version, I felt like I was watching an episode of "Miami Vice". I had not seen the movie since the theatrical release. How quickly we forget. Thank God for the Movie Trading Company. I bought it on release day and swapped that thing in two days later, before they got swamped with more used copies of it.

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