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Old 08-07-2001, 03:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Best LD's unavailable on DVD (and unlikely to be)

With the recent announcement of the release of the Tron SE, I was thinking about the best special editions that were on LD, but because of rights or reproduction problems, they will probably never see the light of day. Personally, I just got the Pioneer SE of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which comes with a 90 minute doc, commentary, and 110 page coffee table book, and just for the design and cover alone would never be released. I also just won a Criterion of Mike Leigh's Naked, which hasn't even been rumored to be released. Currently I'm looking at the CAV Criterion of Sex, Lies & Videotape which will probably never be put out because of the acceptable and low priced current Columbia release.

What are some other sets that may never get a DVD release?

I'd include the SE's of The Frighteners which was a box-office disaster, and was released in a director's cut with a commentary and a 4 and a half hour making-of. Also there was the Pioneer version of Amadeus which came with a huge book, commentary, a CD soundtrack, and many other extras.

Can anyone think of anything else?

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Old 08-07-2001, 04:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Disney made several SEs for various animated features that may or may not see the light of day, including Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, Alice in Wonderland, The Hunchback, etc. Even the Toy Story SE, while it was trumped by the DVD set, had features that didn't make it to the Toy Box, including all of Pixar's other shorts (Luxo Jr., Tin Toy, etc.).

Disney also put together some nice box sets of cartoons, most notably the B&W Mickey Mouse shorts. And then there are the SEs of live action films like 20,000 Leagues, which haven't yet been released.

For Flintstones fans, there's a great box set of the first 14 episodes of the series, including the original opening (not "Flintstones, meet the Flintstones"), commercials involving the characters, and a host of other extras.

Then there are all the Looney Tunes box sets, which were produced by MGM, which no longer owns the rights. All Warner has done cartoon-wise is a short series of single LDs, the odd VHS here and there, and a VHS series for Columbia House. This is Not Sufficient.

Off the cartoon track, Pioneer did a special edition of 1776 that included the original cut of the film, restored from supposedly discarded edits just for this release. The story is an interesting one and is included in the jacket, and there's a running commentary by Peter Hunt, the film's director.

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Old 08-07-2001, 04:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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The ORIGINAL, Non-Revised STAR WARS Trilogy

JAWS with all of the LaserDisc extras

ALIEN and ALIENS with the volumes of valuable text information from the LDs

The extended cuts of RANSOM and SCREAM, available on LD



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Old 08-07-2001, 04:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Even the Toy Story SE, while it was trumped by the DVD set, had features that didn't make it to the Toy Box, including all of Pixar's other shorts (Luxo Jr., Tin Toy, etc.).
Which shorts are missing? "Luxo Jr." and "Tin Toy" are in the Box.
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Old 08-07-2001, 05:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Drexl, I don't recall all the titles off-hand (I'm at work right now), but there are at least five, including the one with the snowman in the snow globe. It's one full side of a disc in CAV, or about 30 minutes. (If they're all in the Box, then I've just blown a bunch of smoke without meaning to!)
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Old 08-07-2001, 05:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Drexl, I don't recall all the titles off-hand (I'm at work right now), but there are at least five, including the one with the snowman in the snow globe. It's one full side of a disc in CAV, or about 30 minutes. (If they're all in the Box, then I've just blown a bunch of smoke without meaning to!)
No, you're right. I have a tape of the early Pixar shorts and there are about 5 or 6 of them, all of which appeared on the Toy Story box LD, but only two were in the toy box.


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Old 08-07-2001, 05:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Another I just thought of, though it's not exactly an SE, is Ken Burns' The Civil War. I expect this one will be released eventually, but they seem to be taking their time with it.

There's also the Beatles Anthology, and given the poor sales of the LD set, it's a pretty good bet this one won't be released on DVD. (If anyone's interested, Ken Crane's/DVD Planet still has it for $30, or they did the last time I was in the store.)
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Old 08-07-2001, 05:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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My 2001 box set has a bunch of extras not on the multiple rereleases.
Raging Bull and Taxi Driver are also good, which has Scorsese commentary not on the DVDs.
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Old 08-07-2001, 08:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Raging Bull and Taxi Driver are also good, which has Scorsese commentary not on the DVDs.
How are the commentaries on those?

I also forgot the SE of "The Howling", which is coming out bare bones on DVD, but apparently had a funny commentary and excellent extras. Anybody seen that one? Is it worth the $40 or so it goes for on eBay?



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Old 08-07-2001, 08:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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$40 for the SE LD of Howling? Hell yes it's worth it!

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Old 08-07-2001, 08:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Honestly I don't remember the commentaries because they were rentals way back when but I do remember they were very interesting and there were a lot of stories like how DeNiro's "You talkin' to me?" line was repeated because Scorsese couldn't hear it through traffic and it stuck. I'd like to hear one for Bringing Out the Dead to see if he was smoking crack for all the crap scenes in that movie.

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Old 08-07-2001, 08:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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the Twin Peaks set on LD, along with just about every other Lynch film... I'm dying to get Wild at Heart and Twin Peaks on DVD... we shall see.
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Old 08-07-2001, 08:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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$40 for the SE LD of Howling? Hell yes it's worth it!
Is this a joke? I should clarify, I've seen the movie (twice), just not the LD.



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Old 08-08-2001, 01:31 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I second the vote for the Howling SE. I love that movie and the extras are great.

Also, the Criterion Collection Bram Stoker's Dracula will never be on DVD as Columbia has already put out a movie only edition. They may do a SE one day, but not with the Criterion suppliments.

The Nighmare on Elm Street SE had lots of extras that never found their way into the DVD box set.

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Old 08-08-2001, 10:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Disco Stu,

If you enjoy the movie, like I do, it's worth it. If you don't think much of it, spending $40 might be a bit much.

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Old 08-08-2001, 04:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Aww, man! No Bram Stoker's Dracula? I tried so hard to get that Special Edition LD-it even has an interactive editing workshop. I thought Zoetrope was doing all the Coppolla movies, so I just assumed a BSD:SE was coming eventually. I mean, my current one doesn't even have the friggin trailer!(which I found, strangely enough, on the Girl, Interrupted DVD)
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Old 08-08-2001, 04:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Blade Runner euro-cut

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Old 08-08-2001, 10:06 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Probably at best, there are two titles we probably won't see. Here they are:


Who Framed Roger Rabbit
The War Of The Roses

I would love to see these redone for DVD, but the studios might not want to take that risk.

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Old 08-12-2001, 02:45 AM   #19 (permalink)
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There are so many lasers and box set lasers that won't see the light of day on DVD that it's staggering. "Rocky Horror Picture Show" box set came with a beautiful 100+ page coffee table book and a CD with the entire sound track(drooling), but the DVD "did" have the European and the Wizard of Oz version that I did have to get it. NOW GET THIS...BLADE RUNNER-THE 1991 WORKPRINT VERSION...not the original or the director's cut will be playing on Fri. Sept. 21 @ 7:30 PM at the Egyptian theatre in Hollywood...now that is gonna be a film to see!!! "Pinocchio" came with a beautiful book also. I could go on and on. The people that have collected lasers have to really do their homework. Knowing what is on the laser and what is on the DVD helps save money. CAV lasers are so damn close to DVD quality that it isn't worth the DVD purchase. I've collected quite a few box sets because I know they will never see the light of day and most people that collect movies on VHS, which is the majority of the population, will never know what they missed and are missing by not getting into lasers...it's the best of both worlds having collections of both!!!
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Gettysburg, the Special Edition came with the uncut movie, a documentary about the making of the movie, a map of the battlefield, a reproduction civil war bullet, and a beautiful "picture book" of the battle by renowned artist Mort Künstler.
The current DVD of Gettysburg is billed as a special edition, has only a '50's era documentary, no restored scenes.
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Old 08-13-2001, 06:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Mrs doubtfire with the directors commentary on the half hour of cut scenes the dvd was a hudge disapointment aside from not being 16:9 but it could have at least been the same special edition that was on the ld
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Old 08-13-2001, 06:13 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Independance Day and TITANIC in DTS.

paramounts released TITANIC on ld in dts a few months after its dolby release on ld. there first and only i think dts anything on ld or dvd.
and id4 as well most likey wont be relesed in dts as well as the aliens ms doubtfire and the abyss which were all dts lds

the abyss whould be nice in 16x9 with dts if they ever got around to that again but i doubt it. there not using universals tactics yet releasing second special editions.

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Old 08-13-2001, 06:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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the rest of the peanuts specials seem to be forgotton about by paramount.
theres at least another 10 tv specials they havent released and half of them more hoilday episodes like the easter begal a valentins,arbor day,id4,new years ect not to mention the movies from the 80's like race for your life.
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There was a DTS LD of The Abyss?

I have the Abyss box set on LD. I didn't bother upgrading to the DVD because of the lack of DD5.1. I figured it would come out again with a sound remaster. So far that has proven wrong.

I do have the Titanic DTS LD. I haven't even opened it yet. and I have never seen the movie.

I would love to have a DVD of The Gods Must be Crazy.
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Old 08-13-2001, 06:28 AM   #25 (permalink)
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You know now im not sure about a DTS of Abyss and i dont have any sites anymore to check it against. I rented DTS of TITANIC and it was amazing. I also have a DTS DVD sampler with the Titanic trailer.
You bought the ld but never opened it? Your like me with my DVDs. I tell myself to get it now while its at preorder price. i have over 1200 and must have 50 or so still wraped.
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Old 08-13-2001, 08:01 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The extended cuts of RANSOM and SCREAM, available on LD
- Scream DTS directors cut is available on DVD in Japan. I suspect a US version is coming


Monty Python and the Holy Grail Criterion Edition
A new DVD is coming but bet that it won't be the extended version.

Beauty and the beast LD.

Deep Rising DTS LD

Shadow widescreen

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Old 08-13-2001, 08:42 PM   #27 (permalink)
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- Scream DTS directors cut is available on DVD in Japan. I suspect a US version is coming


Monty Python and the Holy Grail Criterion Edition
A new DVD is coming but bet that it won't be the extended version.

Beauty and the beast LD.

Deep Rising DTS LD

Shadow widescreen
The new holy grail probably will be with the extra 24 seconds. I saw it in a theater a few months ago, it was released to promote the upcoming DVD, and the footage was there. Now what might not be there is the whole movie in Japanese, like on the LD, although Terry Jones promised a subtitle option of Henry IV.

The director's cut of Scream is unlikely because Disney has a no NC-17 policy. Also, there have been three releases of the disc already, and they didn't even bother with an anamorphic transfer.

A lot of these DTS releases are unlikely because theses movies didn't make any money, The Shadow, Deep Rising, etc.

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Aww, man! No Bram Stoker's Dracula? I tried so hard to get that Special Edition LD-it even has an interactive editing workshop. I thought Zoetrope was doing all the Coppolla movies, so I just assumed a BSD:SE was coming eventually. I mean, my current one doesn't even have the friggin trailer!(which I found, strangely enough, on the Girl, Interrupted DVD)
Those of you looking for this LD can look in these places:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1453717773
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1454377022
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1455305361



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Old 08-14-2001, 04:37 AM   #29 (permalink)
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There was a DTS LD of The Abyss?

I have the Abyss box set on LD. I didn't bother upgrading to the DVD because of the lack of DD5.1. I figured it would come out again with a sound remaster. So far that has proven wrong.

I do have the Titanic DTS LD. I haven't even opened it yet. and I have never seen the movie.

I would love to have a DVD of The Gods Must be Crazy.
Hey man, the 2-disc Abyss DVD has a Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack. There's no reason not to buy this EXCEPT that it's non-anamorphic. Besides that, it's a top-notch set and the transfer still looks good even though it isn't anamorphic.

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I forgot about the dir cut of Ransom on ld. I rented it and it was really good. The dvd of that and Tombstone as well were special lds and nothing DVD's.
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Actually Jetman, the Abyss DVD has a 4.1 or 4.0 DD soundtrack. I know it says 5.1, but it originally made with mono surround. I think what was wanted was a true 5.1 re-mix, or something.

Also, the Canadian edition has an English 2.0 track and a French 2.0 track... no '5.1' track at all. Maybe that is the one that Seamonkey saw...

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Actually Jetman, the Abyss DVD has a 4.1 or 4.0 DD soundtrack. I know it says 5.1, but it originally made with mono surround. I think what was wanted was a true 5.1 re-mix, or something.

Also, the Canadian edition has an English 2.0 track and a French 2.0 track... no '5.1' track at all. Maybe that is the one that Seamonkey saw...
Actually, the track is a Dolby Digital 5.1 one. The mix, however, is 4.1 and either way it's no reason not to buy this DVD.

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