Should old "bare boned" DVD's be re-released as SE?

[DVDog]

I say hell yeah!
I'd love SE's of Pulp Fiction, Face/Off, Star Trek (movies), Truman Show, Speed, Mulan, and a few others I can't remember right now.

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A DVD w/o special features is just an expensive VHS tape.

[SebastianCole]

No, a featureless DVD is still better than VHS becuase the picture will be better, and chances are it'll be in widescreen

[Josh]

I dont really care a lot about extras, but if theres a SE right next to a Bare bones of the same flick,Ill pick up the SE.

[Homer's Brain]

Hi, new to the forum. I think that it really depends on the film, whether or not it deserves an SE. Realistically, it's a matter of opinion. I, for one, thought that Armageddon being a Criterion disc was a travesty. Conversely, I feel the "The Trigger Effect" would have benefitted from a director's commentary. Some will agree, some will not.

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[Adjuster]

DVDog,

Let me see if I understand your signature; You're saying that a movie presented in non-degrading digital format with 540 lines of resolution*, 5.1 discrete channels of digital audio, instant scene access through chapter stops all controlled by a menu driven user interface at a price between $9.99 - $14,99, is the same thing as a movie on VHS?

Sorry dude, I understand your point(Which I'm sure you didn't mean literally) but your statement is wrong on so many levels.

The only way a DVD is like a VHS is if you are watching your DVD's through a RF connection on a 1975 Sony trinitron 20" TV with one blown out speaker.

Which by the way, I hope you're not.

*- Paraphrased from the DVD FAQ: "Since DVD has 720 horizontal pixels, the horizontal resolution for a 4:3 aspect ratio is 540 lines. On a 16:9 display, you get 405 lines. VHS has about 230 (172 widescreen) lines, broadcast TV has about 330 (248 widescreen), and laserdisc has about 425 (318 widescreen).


{Edited to remove some dumb stuff I wrote. I guess I've been in a bad mood lately and not thinking straight. }

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[GTO]

There are too many great movies that haven't been released yet for the studios to go back and do SEs of already released flicks.

[DVDog]

Originally posted by Adjuster:
DVDog,

Let me see if I understand your signature; You're saying that a movie presented in non-degrading digital format with 540 lines of resolution*, 5.1 discrete channels of digital audio, instant scene access through chapter stops all controlled by a menu driven user interface at a price between $9.99 - $14,99, is the same thing as a movie on VHS?

Sorry dude, I understand your point(Which I'm sure you didn't mean literally) but your statement is wrong on so many levels.

The only way a DVD is like a VHS is if you are watching your DVD's through a RF connection on a 1975 Sony trinitron 20" TV with one blown out speaker.

Which by the way, I hope you're not.

*- Paraphrased from the DVD FAQ: "Since DVD has 720 horizontal pixels, the horizontal resolution for a 4:3 aspect ratio is 540 lines. On a 16:9 display, you get 405 lines. VHS has about 230 (172 widescreen) lines, broadcast TV has about 330 (248 widescreen), and laserdisc has about 425 (318 widescreen).


{Edited to remove some dumb stuff I wrote. I guess I've been in a bad mood lately and not thinking straight. }

I think I'm done cleaning up.

Ur right, I didn't mean it literally, it's more of a symbolic statement about how some film companies r treating DVD's like VHS tapes & I personally won't stand for it. Don't release films like Escape from NY w/absolutely no extra's...awful.

I don't rent DVD's, I BUY them.



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A DVD w/o special features is just an expensive VHS tape.

[SolidSnakeASS]

Which companies are doing this? I don't have any that come to mind. I am just happy to have a movie on DVD, and if the video and audio are good I'll buy it. Whether or not it has extras. But I do like SEs, and will wait for some movies that would benefit from it or that I can live without for the time being.

[George McFly]

yes- features are great,

but the real reason for an SE is if a studio screwed up and gave us crappy audio and/or video, then a release is a MUST

[Chunkblower]

I would say that it depends on the movie, but because taste is so subjective, it would be impossible to create criteria to determine what film "deserves" to be a special edition. For example, the Hannibal SE was well done, but I don't think Hannibal is a film deserving of the SE treatment. However, while The Fury is a film that I would love to have an SE of, I'm pretty sure no one else would. And how many transferring to Home Theater specials do we need? Sure, it was great on the Se7en disc, but do we need it on Josie and the Pussycats (not that it's on there, I'm just using the title as an analogy)? The studio should pick special features that complement the film, not just so they can list seventy special features on the package. Additionally, too many features can just be overkill. I buy DVD's for the movie first and foremost. I'm sure I haven't watched all the features on my T2 and Fight Club DVD's, nor do I really feel compelled to any time soon. I enjoyed the films and feel my money was well spent, even if I never watched the supplements.



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[saraswati]

this is tricky. of course i would buy any movie i liked in a special edition, especially movies i love that already come barebones.

however, it's not as simple as that. i would infinitely rather have a bare bones disc of something rare than another special edition of a widely available movie (i'd rather have Ed Wood bare bones than a new SE rerelease of The Matrix, for instance).

also, you have to understand that sometimes a special edition would make no sense whatsoever. i'm not deluding myself into expecting a Mermaids SE, because i know i'm one of about 10 people who likes that movie.

And you have to deal with director intent and availability of material as well. i know i'll never see a special edition of Annie Hall, because Woody Allen is technologically challenged and opposed to commentaries and "fixing up" the movies. And all the famous deleted footage was most likely thrown out after he decided to completely re-edit and change the movie around just before its release.

so sometimes i'm content to just have my bare bones editions. it's better than VHS, after all.

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[fuzznugget]

If I already own something on VHS I don't see buying the DVD unless it is a special edition.

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I am glad that this topic has come up. I think that there are alot of "bare-bones" DVD's that should have a dignified SE. I think that the main thing they should do, is change the formerly both Widescreen and Full Screen i.e. "two-sided squint to read" discs to just Widescreen. Columbia and Warner Bros. are responsible for most of these. This is the reason that I try not to get ones like these. But in some cases, I had to. i.e. Urban Legend, Fright Night, Amityville Horror. It is certainly nice to see a picture on the disc itself. My Anchor Bay ones are the coolest looking ones I have seen. With alot of the older movies, released bare-bones, there may not be much call for Special Feautures But for every movie, there is some fan-base which would want everything possible. So I think it is a good idea. Just be fair with the pricings. If people formerly bought a bare bone DVD for $24.95, they would not be too apt to go out and spend another 25-30 dollars for it. Thanks again,, and if they release only a few, give us a Fright Night SE! Thanks



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[Roughneck0101]

uhh YES, fifth element star ship troopers, granted it did have extras but I want better sound. bram stokers dracula ALL the stng movies. etc etc